Or in days that end in "y". Same difference, thus the problem. There will be a horrible massacre weekly and shootings that could have been prevented DAILY!
Ugh

I am fed up.

I chose to not own guns and I like me much better knowing I have none in my home. I'm not a part of the gun problem

We hate them

As long as you make it legal to own such destructive devices of death, it will continue to happen.

We need to scrap the 2nd amendment and make all private firearm ownership a felony, if you want to go hunting go to the store and buy your food like a normal person or use an air rifle like in the UK.

The UK has the most ruthless radicals living there but you will never hear about a mass shooting there. Why? Because they banned guns.

The idea that gun ownership is a sacred individual right and is the only safeguard against "Tyranny" is deep in the DNA of (mostly white, FWIW) America, and has been for a long time now. If anything, since the 1960s and 1970s the Gun Culture has gotten more angry, irrational, and defiant.

I really don't see much of anything changing, other than the body count getting progressively higher.

for good reason.

And hunting is an important part of our ecology since we've pretty much wiped out the natural predators.

are going to work well for your agenda.

Just my opinion, yours may differ.

word is that he aid his name was a national security threat

If they never manufactured another gun, there are enough in circulation to last hundreds of years. And with reasonable care and maintenance, they don't deteriorate.

What Are Tunisia's Gun Laws Like?
It Has The Lowest Gun Ownership Rate In The World.

It's safer in Palestine, Texas ...

Even multiple armed policemen have been ambushed and killed before they can use their firearms to defend themselves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakewood,_Washington_police_officer_shooting

Its not outrageous to assert that there are too many weapons in this country, and too many people with absolutely no business anywhere near them.

Our militia is the opposite of well-regulated.

Even if you pass stringent gun control laws.

Duh.

Who's claiming that there is a perfect solution that eliminates all guns? Not I. It's far too late for that.

I want fewer incompetent, yet law-abiding, citizens to WANT to own guns. I want more hurdles, more expense, more hassles. I want FEWER 3-year olds shooting their siblings, fewer impulsive suicides, fewer angry divorced men committing familycides, fewer armed schizophrenics.

That would be an improvement.

Criminals are another matter - was Mr. Abdulazeez a criminal? Or a law-abiding 2nd amendment enthusiast, until he became a terrorist?

We lose more people to gun violence EVERY DAY than that guy in Chattanooga killed.

What was Britain's role in that mess?
That was a horrific act of revenge.

It is not only about guns - it is also about the consequences of some of our government's actions. Any people who believe their governments can slaughter people in other nations without consequences is beyond delusional - as are their governments.

Thank Bushco, Blair, Sharon, Bibi et al for this entire fucking mess.

Because that happens so freaking often, right? What is the jihadi gun attack death toll now? Six or seven? We lose more people to gun violence than that in one weekend night in Chicago.

Oh yeah?

Well, CHICAGO!

violence just as I was correct about the failure of the city's gun control laws.

Statistically they are not something the federal (or state) can do much about with laws. If we assume that 10 killers murder 100 people a year this way (those numbers are high), that's something like
0.00000003% of the population
killing
0.0000003% of the population

There are quite a few things that kill 0.0000003% of the population per year. I imagine everyone would be unhappy if the government tried to "fix"/"stop" all of those things.

There are no laws the federal government can enforce to "fix"/"stop" these killing. Maybe EXTREME surveillance and/or keeping us in cages will make a significant improvement (save 50 lives/year).

That's not saying gun laws are stupid though I'm against many. But those 10 murderers are probably not going to be deterred by any law. They plan it, and have other options (explosives, fire, poison, a big truck, an airplane). It makes more sense to base gun laws on non-anonymous mass killings (e.g. boss/ex-spouse and anyone in the area). Or on non-mass shooting. Many more of those types of murder occur each year and there are laws that could reasonably make a difference in people acting on short-term emotion rather than acting on a thought out plan.

At this point, I agree with your assertion: there is no way to stop these amoklauf shootings. There are simply too many guns in the hands of too many idiots.

1) They do, and with higher body counts than guns. OKC, Happy Land, Bath, even 9/11

2) The reason guns are used more often is simplicity. It's easier to shoot a gun than build a bomb or even set a fire. It's the same reason most people take a car to work than ride the bus or bicycle. But if we removed all cars tomorrow, people would still get to work. If we took all guns away tomorrow, people driven to mass murder would still do it.

And that is the point.

Guns are easy to use, that simplicity facilitates impulsive action. guns don't require special knowledge or planning.

angry men aren't going to make fertilizer bombs to kill their estranged wives and children, and then fertilizer bomb themselves.

They probably have a lot less murders than the US right?

..who have a nice export market. A "win."

And the vicious death-dealers there "win," as well, with all their shiny American weapons.

Win/win!

NRA must love it!

I find it funny that post one says

"we need strict gun laws", that will reduce crime

your post
"Gun laws don't work, because guns will be smuggled across the border"

So which one is it?

You are confused with pro-Proliferation arguments that muddy whether the guns are simply "sold" outright from American gun stores, or stolen and sold on the black market later.

The Atlantic has a good overview of the situation:

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/03/made-in-the-usa-the-role-of-american-guns-in-mexican-violence/274103/

Are due to second hand smoke. About 460,000 deaths related to tobacco overall.

More die of second hand smoke than die due to firearms.

Cue the "it's not the same!" outrage.

I'm honestly amazed its that high. I have trouble even believing the number myself.

But I think alcohol laws are fine as they are (I could even be convinced to drop the drinking age to 18 or 19)

"We need stronger laws" they say. No, laws don't work. Criminals that don't care about human life don't care about laws.

The only way to stop the +30,000 gun deaths is to remove civilian access to firearms entirely, no exceptions.

You sure are a trusting soul though...