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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 05:51 PM Jul 2015

Wisconsin Giving $250M To Billionaire-Owned Basketball Arena Days After Cutting $250M In Education

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/07/16/wisconsin-giving-250m-to-billionaire-owned-basketball-arena-days-after-cutting-250m-in-education/

If you want to see the priorities of politicians, follow the money. In Wisconsin, that means watching Republican Governor Scott Walker and his friends in the state legislature quite literally take money out of the coffers of higher education and place it directly into the hands of the owners of the Milwaukee Bucks basketball team – both of whom are billionaires.

This month, scientists and academics around the country watched in stunned horror as Walker systematically dismantled his state’s public university system. Not only did Walker’s razor slice hundreds of millions of dollars in vital funding for the University of Wisconsin, but he went a step further, killing professor tenure to boot. Under the guise of holding teachers accountable, Walker undermined a system of education that protected science and learning from being bullied by popular opinion or politics....

In a move that can only be described as “trickle up” economics Wisconsin lawmakers are dead set on giving $250 million to build a new basketball arena in downtown Milwaukee. As Deadspin points out, the two co-owners of the Bucks basketball team are both billionaires who had demanded the state of Wisconsin foot the majority of the bill or they might take their team elsewhere. Their offer was simple: You pay for this or else.

As usual, supporters of the spending have trotted out the traditional line of defense, claiming the new arena will mean a boost to the Milwaukee economy that will make the arena practically pay for itself. They couldn’t be more wrong. Despite that common perception, economists and clear-eyed city officials have long pointed out that getting taxpayers to dump money into sports stadiums is a massive waste. Pacific Standard took a comprehensive look at the “stadium myth” in 2013 and found absolutely no justification for using public money to purchase a stadium that the team owners might otherwise pay for themselves.


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Wisconsin Giving $250M To Billionaire-Owned Basketball Arena Days After Cutting $250M In Education (Original Post) KamaAina Jul 2015 OP
Billionaires and Millionaires need sports teams and hospitals. randys1 Jul 2015 #1
Yup. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #2
They know what happens to cities which refuse to finance stadiums LittleBlue Jul 2015 #3
How ironic would it be if the Bucks ended up moving to Seattle? KamaAina Jul 2015 #4
I'd feel really bad LittleBlue Jul 2015 #5
I never did get that one. KamaAina Jul 2015 #16
They were going to go to Vegas of they couldn't get new stadium. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #7
John Oliver had a great segment recently on exactly this kind of welfare for the rich Electric Monk Jul 2015 #14
Yeah, screw the kids; WE WANT OUR TEAM!!! FiveGoodMen Jul 2015 #11
Tell me again who the 'takers' are? Cal Carpenter Jul 2015 #6
Wait a minute- ruffburr Jul 2015 #8
A country of the billionaires, by the billionaires, and for the billionaires. Initech Jul 2015 #9
Basketball is a better investment than education? postulater Jul 2015 #10
Well, he could probably finish a basketball game. KamaAina Jul 2015 #15
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #12
kick Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 #13
Couldn't happen without Democratic support... HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #17
...politicians continue to cave into their threats to move their teams ... IcyPeas Jul 2015 #18

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. Billionaires and Millionaires need sports teams and hospitals.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 05:54 PM
Jul 2015

The hospitals will only be available to people with the very best health insurance or just money and the sports teams price their tickets high enough to keep the Blah, uh I mean riff raff out.


Education is only for the elite and only a certain type of education...


 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
3. They know what happens to cities which refuse to finance stadiums
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 05:54 PM
Jul 2015

Seattle, for example. We lost the Sonics.

It is what it is.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
4. How ironic would it be if the Bucks ended up moving to Seattle?
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 05:55 PM
Jul 2015


As the Kings nearly did before Sacramento caved in and built them a Xanadu-like pleasure palace downtown.
 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
5. I'd feel really bad
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 05:57 PM
Jul 2015

When we lost our beloved team right as we drafted Kevin Durant, that hurt bad. I'd rather have an expansion team than inflict that pain on other fans. But you know the NBA, they hate expansions aka splitting the pot.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
16. I never did get that one.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 09:49 PM
Jul 2015

Seattle is a major metropolitan area. That other place, not so much. Yeah, yeah, yeah, old arena, but weren't the TV rights worth more than he's getting now? And no competition from hockey, either, unlike most markets your size.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
7. They were going to go to Vegas of they couldn't get new stadium.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 06:03 PM
Jul 2015

It's total bullshit that the billionares held us hostage and that our legislatures took money from education for this shit.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
17. Couldn't happen without Democratic support...
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 10:09 PM
Jul 2015

Dems in Milwaukee wanted this, but Dems in the state senate held back because the proposal called for money to be raised by harsh fines and property forfeitures...but they gave in substituting a 4 million dollar per year reduction in aid from the state to Milwaukee County for the next 20 years...



"Republicans who supported the bill had to turn to minority Democrats for help getting to 17 votes.

Democratic senators met for most of the day Tuesday and most of Wednesday afternoon ironing out what they wanted in the bill. They finally emerged from their meetings late Wednesday afternoon with a number of changes.

One of them calls for a $2 ticket surcharge, with $1.50 going to the arena's governing district and 50 cents going to the state. The surcharge would increase state revenues by $500,000 and the district's revenues by $1.5 million, according to a Legislative Fiscal Bureau analysis.

The original bill called for the state to make an $8 million annual contribution to the project with tax dollars. The state would have offset $4 million of that contribution by taking over collecting past-due debt on Milwaukee County-issued fines, forfeitures and property taxes and pumping the first $4 million of that revenue back into the general fund, with the balance going back to the county.

Democrats balked at that plan, saying it would burden poor people struggling to pay their debt. They erased the provision but allowed language calling for slashing state aid to Milwaukee County by $4 million each year until 2035."

IcyPeas

(21,894 posts)
18. ...politicians continue to cave into their threats to move their teams ...
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 10:27 PM
Jul 2015
http://crooksandliars.com/2015/07/john-oliver-explains-why-taxpayers-should

... even though our politicians continue to cave into their threats to move their teams every time one of them wants a new stadium built.
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In the last two decades, he said, 90 percent of U.S. sports stadiums have been rebuilt — on the dime of local taxpayers. Some $12 billion was spent on 51 new luxury facilities between 2000 and 2010 alone, according to Oliver.
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According to Oliver, teams not only receive taxpayer-funded facilities, but they also often get to keep the income from stadium naming rights, concessions, luxury boxes, and non-sports events held on the property. The Florida Marlins’ owner framed it candidly: “That’s the whole object of this, is to get more revenue.”
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And the exorbitant spending didn’t stop there. As GOP candidates raise concerns over tax funding for programs such as Obamacare provisions and SNAP food programs, millions of dollars are still pouring into athletic construction projects. Just last month, presidential hopeful Walker announced plans for a new $500 million stadium for the Bucks. These renovations follow in the footsteps of the 2013 construction of Miami’s Marlins Park, which also received the same nine-figure approval in county funding — leaving only 20 percent of the budget to be organized through other means.
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But for now, tax dollars continue to filter out of government budgets and into the hands of lucrative sports franchises.
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