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Kurska

(5,739 posts)
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:24 PM Jul 2015

Gawker's apparent outing of CFO meets with Internet backlash

"SAN FRANCISCO—Gawker drew heavy criticism Friday from online readers after the news and gossip site ran a story about the CFO of Conde Nast allegedly soliciting sex from a gay porn star.

David Geithner, a married father of three and brother of former Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, denied the allegations.

Gawker nevertheless reported that Geithner planned to go to Chicago to meet a gay porn star and escort and was prepared to pay $2,500 for the encounter. David Geithner cancelled the meet-up after the escort tried to get him to use his political connections to help with a housing dispute. Previously, the anonymous escort had asked Republican Sen. Ted Cruz for help with his housing dispute, the online article said.

....

Readers pointed out that publicizing Geithner's possible sexual orientation did nothing for the public good: he's not a public official or political candidate who has advocated against gay rights, for instance.

"This guy is not an antigay politician whose hypocrisy needs to be outed. Why would anyone care if he wants to hire an escort?" wrote reader Mike Johnson of Los Angeles on Gawker's Facebook page."

.....

"Natasha Vargas-Cooper, senior reporter for Gawker affiliate Jezebel, also defended its publication. "Stories don't need an upside. Not everyone has to feel good about the truth. If it's true, you publish."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/07/17/gawkers-apparent-outing-cfo-meets-internet-backlash/30280505/

Apparently gay men don't have a right to privacy anymore. You really think that if this was a straight guy this would be on a major news website like Gawker? This is gay shaming. Ted Cruz is the "hero" of the story" and a random gay man not using his "political influence" (isn't that essentially cronyism?) to intervene in an apartment dispute means his sexuality is fair game.

I'm not linking directly to the article. If you really want to find it you can.

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Gawker's apparent outing of CFO meets with Internet backlash (Original Post) Kurska Jul 2015 OP
Cruz the hero? How? I dont want to read it either. randys1 Jul 2015 #1
From the original article Kurska Jul 2015 #2
I call bullshit, Cruz couldnt care less about veterans, and I mean that sincerely. randys1 Jul 2015 #4
He would if he thought he'd get some votes for doing so. n/t Calista241 Jul 2015 #22
Anyone with half a brain would know that you don't mess with high level government officials... 951-Riverside Jul 2015 #3
The escort's name is now known, and he will not work again. Kurovski Jul 2015 #10
"BTW, prostitution is still illegal." NaturalHigh Jul 2015 #12
Geithner is being defended as though he were innocently arranging a lover's tryst. Kurovski Jul 2015 #16
"They both should be decriminalized and regulated for everyone's protection." NaturalHigh Jul 2015 #18
And prostitution is legal in some counties in Nevada. KamaAina Jul 2015 #39
So would that escort be an employee? or an independent contractor? postulater Jul 2015 #5
Pretty despicable IMO. NaturalHigh Jul 2015 #6
Wheres the evidence that this guy was even acting against his wifes wish? Kurska Jul 2015 #8
Isn't it good to expose corrupt and terrible prostitution? Blue_Adept Jul 2015 #7
A 2500 a day escort who operates independently is hardly a victim. Kurska Jul 2015 #9
So there's acceptable levels of prostitution then? Blue_Adept Jul 2015 #26
Well regulated and legal. Kurska Jul 2015 #32
I've long agreed 1000% :) Blue_Adept Jul 2015 #38
Legalize it across the board. Regulate. Tax. NaturalHigh Jul 2015 #33
Some would undoubtedly agree with that. NaturalHigh Jul 2015 #11
No, it's bad to enable a blackmail scheme. jeff47 Jul 2015 #27
As someone who supports outing anti-gay gay politicians, pastors, etc. -- Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2015 #13
Me too. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2015 #21
Gawker is toxic AngryAmish Jul 2015 #14
All of the writers on that site seem to compete for "biggest asshole" awards. NaturalHigh Jul 2015 #17
Every good writer at Gawker gets fired. gvstn Jul 2015 #25
That's really a strange article, considering Ted Cruz stance on the LGBT community. Rex Jul 2015 #15
Did he know his constituent's line of work? nt MADem Jul 2015 #24
I don't see how he could not know. Rex Jul 2015 #30
To some, gay sex is still a dirty and shameful thing to be used as a weapon Prism Jul 2015 #19
And BOOM, Prism nails it again. Thanks. closeupready Jul 2015 #29
It's even worse than that Prism Jul 2015 #31
+1, horrific behavior exhibiting exactly what you are talking about on Gawker's part. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #40
Yeah, Gawker fumbled here. Brickbat Jul 2015 #20
This was a shake down, plain and simple. Didn't start out that way--it was initially a transaction; MADem Jul 2015 #23
Would love to see Hulk Hogan shut down Gawker LittleBlue Jul 2015 #28
Yeah, but then Hulk Hogan (and his ex-wife)... NaturalHigh Jul 2015 #34
It really is, isn't it? LittleBlue Jul 2015 #35
Sleazy, even by Gawker standards... Blue_Tires Jul 2015 #36
His wife has a right to know. If she has been kept in the dark about his snagglepuss Jul 2015 #37

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
2. From the original article
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:30 PM
Jul 2015

He also sought help from his local senator, Ted Cruz. On April 7 of this year, Cruz’s office sent Ryan a letter telling him that they had “initiated an inquiry” with HUD on Ryan’s behalf. On May 6, Ryan received another letter from Cruz’s office, stating that HUD had made a “final determination” on his case in May 2014, at which point HUD closed his case. Enclosed was a letter from a HUD field office director, stating that HUD could not initiate any further investigation into Ryan’s case unless he provided “new and relevant information.” Ryan felt this response was insufficient, and that several government agencies had sided with his landlord in discriminating against him because of his sexuality. (Cruz’s office has continued to stay in touch with Ryan, he tells us. He says that an employee of Cruz’s called him this afternoon to say that the senator had personally called the HUD director on his behalf. It seems as if Cruz, in the midst of his Presidential campaign, sees an opportunity to help a veteran with PTSD who has been crushed by Washington bureaucracy.)

This in a story about a gay man, whom they out and give anonymity to the outer as part of a failed blackmail plan on the part of the outer. .

randys1

(16,286 posts)
4. I call bullshit, Cruz couldnt care less about veterans, and I mean that sincerely.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:33 PM
Jul 2015

Really important for us to understand what your typical teapartier thinks about them.

I need to do a thread about it.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
3. Anyone with half a brain would know that you don't mess with high level government officials...
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:31 PM
Jul 2015

or their family members like this.

This escort's life will never be the same.

Previously, the anonymous escort had asked Republican Sen. Ted Cruz for help with his housing dispute


...Interesting. I wonder how he got into contact with Cruz.

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
10. The escort's name is now known, and he will not work again.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:44 PM
Jul 2015

He is also a rw born-again birther gun nut, per his Facebook timeline.

This also can be found out by using our internets.

BTW, prostitution is still illegal.

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
16. Geithner is being defended as though he were innocently arranging a lover's tryst.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:01 PM
Jul 2015

And marijuana is hardly the same as prostitution, where abuses such as trafficking, beatings, slavery, and psychological abuse abounds.

They both should be decriminalized and regulated for everyone's protection. until such time, stop pretending it's a fair exchange between consenting adults.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
18. "They both should be decriminalized and regulated for everyone's protection."
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:02 PM
Jul 2015

That's my opinion too.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
5. So would that escort be an employee? or an independent contractor?
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:33 PM
Jul 2015

Who pays the withholding tax? and the FICA?

Sounds a little under-the-table to me. Regardless of the activity, it is probably a taxable interaction just like paying your maid or your lawn service.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
6. Pretty despicable IMO.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:36 PM
Jul 2015

Can't anyone have a little privacy these days? If some average Joe, not related to anyone in a position of power, had hired an escort, would anyone (other than his immediate family) care?

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
8. Wheres the evidence that this guy was even acting against his wifes wish?
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:42 PM
Jul 2015

Maybe he is Bi. Maybe they have an open relationship.

Gawker gets to come in and essentially destroy the lives on an entire family without any evidence of any wrong doing on the guy's part.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
7. Isn't it good to expose corrupt and terrible prostitution?
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:41 PM
Jul 2015

Didn't we have reams and reams of pages about how johns should be outed for their behavior in making this entire industry exist?

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
9. A 2500 a day escort who operates independently is hardly a victim.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:44 PM
Jul 2015

Especially when the only reason they are doing this is they failed to black mail the person to get their government connections on an apartment dispute.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
32. Well regulated and legal.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 03:13 PM
Jul 2015

Health and safety procedures in registered brothels.

Bring it out of the shadows, sunlight is the best disinfectant.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
27. No, it's bad to enable a blackmail scheme.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:33 PM
Jul 2015

But in the end, you'll have your wish. This prostitute won't have any johns anymore.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
13. As someone who supports outing anti-gay gay politicians, pastors, etc. --
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:49 PM
Jul 2015

I do not find it appropriate in this case.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
25. Every good writer at Gawker gets fired.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:24 PM
Jul 2015

They had some really clever writers but when this gets recognized and they have a following and presumably ask for a raise then they are gone. Replaced by the next desperate college grad that needs a job.

Gawker has become just an aggregator getting most of its "news" from the Daily Mail and the rest from HuffPo and Reddit. Virtually no original pieces anymore. Unless you call this an original piece. Ugh.

I still read because the commenters are still witty but this type of crap might change my mind.

I don't know if Geithner did it or not but even if he did it from their account he paid the guy even though he cancelled the appointment, paid for his airfare for a flight he didn't take, paid for his hotel. The guy is clearly unhinged, yet they print his account of the story with very little evidence. The whole thing is to go against the owners of Reddit.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
15. That's really a strange article, considering Ted Cruz stance on the LGBT community.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:58 PM
Jul 2015
http://www.hrc.org/2016RepublicanFacts/ted-cruz

"Whether the issue is marriage or protection from discrimination, Sen. Ted Cruz has consistently opposed equality for LGBT Americans. And he’s gone even further, attacking fellow Republicans for marching in pride parades, and using his opposition to marriage to win his first Senate campaign."

I guess even an evil bastard like Cruz, can show some compassion? Seems very out of character for one that hates the LGBT community, but good on him for doing something positive.
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
30. I don't see how he could not know.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:45 PM
Jul 2015

Given the level of escort we are talking about. Maybe he had no idea, find that real hard to believe.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
19. To some, gay sex is still a dirty and shameful thing to be used as a weapon
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:09 PM
Jul 2015

Nothing in the outing article paints the guy as anti-gay. In fact, he comes out looking fairly decent in not using his political connections.

So what was the point? We don't know his marital arrangements. Maybe his wife is fine with it. The gay escort certainly isn't a victim. He is apparently getting paid big money in a chosen profession (well, maybe not after this).

So . . .

Why is being gay still being reported as a shameful, scandalous secret? If I questioned every single person's reasons for being in the closet, I'd get nothing done.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
31. It's even worse than that
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:50 PM
Jul 2015

Apparently the escort is volatile and probably mentally ill. Lots of certifiable insanity on his facebook page - that Gawker knew about.

And they still ran the story. Blergh.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
23. This was a shake down, plain and simple. Didn't start out that way--it was initially a transaction;
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:23 PM
Jul 2015

the purchase of sexual congress, but then the individual selling the 'product' found out his client had clout and tried to use him to solve his legal problem. When that didn't work, he outed the guy.

If Mr. Geithner/Gardner doesn't have an "open" relationship with his wife (and if I had to place a bet, I'd guess that he doesn't), his marriage is probably over and his spouse and children have to deal with a broken home.

I think there's a family in Orleans MA who isn't enjoying their summer holiday on the Cape very much at all....

The villian in this piece is the film star/prostitute. Ted Cruz is no hero, he's just a footnote to this dumb, mean mess--I'm betting he didn't even know his constituent's line of work.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
28. Would love to see Hulk Hogan shut down Gawker
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:38 PM
Jul 2015

Apparently his lawsuit, if it is successful, represents a monetary amount that is a de facto death sentence for Gawker. They published a sex tape and refused to take it down, so he's suing for $100m in damages. During the trial preliminary procedures it was discovered they're registered in a tax shelter in the Caymans lol.

Tabloid trash

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
34. Yeah, but then Hulk Hogan (and his ex-wife)...
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 03:18 PM
Jul 2015

would be even richer and more insufferable.

A conundrum, it is.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
37. His wife has a right to know. If she has been kept in the dark about his
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 04:21 PM
Jul 2015

sexuality and his extracurricular activities than he is scum.

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