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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBILL CLINTON IS SORRY FOR A LOT OF THINGS, Huffington Post, July 17, 2015
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141149561
Note: Open the Link on This Page to see article excerpts, then SCROLL WAY DOWN past the Text and the big white space to see the original article LINK, open to read complete article and watch a *VIDEO of clips of Bill speaking about his administrations' work.
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*DIRECT ARTICLE LINK, Huffington Post Politics, "BILL CLINTON IS SORRY FOR A LOT OF THINGS", July 17, 2015.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-clinton-is-sorry_55a83397e4b0896514d0e220
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Seems a bit convenient, focus group? Now I'll check the link...
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)This is nothing but preemptive ass-covering in an attempt to benefit Hillary.
daredtowork
(3,732 posts)Enquiring minds want to know.
Thanks appalachiablue for the link!
artislife
(9,497 posts)My brother was correct about him all those years ago. I couldn't see.
Then. But now I do.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)and the degradation of the Democratic party: so many ills were let out of the box.
appalachiablue
(41,178 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)that triangulation is still the tool of choice for his wife.
appalachiablue
(41,178 posts)that were a main part of Financial Deregulation with the Repeal of Glass Steagall in 1999 that he admits was a mistake. Those derivatives and other factors contributed to the housing/mortgage boom and Financial Crash of 2008.
Clinton and US Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers in 2000.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and that may be a gross underestimate.
Go home and count your money, Bill. Nobody wants to hear from you anymore.
Gads, Summers looks like a human toad created by Dr Moreau.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I wish you and your wife would go back to Arkansas and never to be heard from again.
appalachiablue
(41,178 posts)conference this week the article states. I wonder how that went for the organization and thousands incarcerated for strict sentencing and longer time served.
*There is a VIDEO in the article where he discusses many of his policies. *Open the X-Post Link on this page, get to the main article inside and SCROLL DOWN the big white space gap to get to the main HuffPo LINK to open and see the rest of the article & VIDEO.
Photo: Bill Clinton at NAACP conference this week.
HappyPlace
(568 posts)If this is a violation, I'll remove it, but I think that it was locked in the Breaking News forum because it wasn't breaking, but I'm not sure.
So, here's the link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-clinton-is-sorry_55a83397e4b0896514d0e220
I haven't read it, but thought the readers might want to not have to click through so many other threads to get to the link.
Thanks.
appalachiablue
(41,178 posts)illustrated an OP as I did, and don't want to redo all that or don't have time. And I prefer some 'body', over a thin blue line among thousands here if there's time and a choice. The Op I placed late last night was based on the HuffPo article of the same day, July 17 which said "Edited: 2 Hours Ago". That changed hours later to a specific time. The basis of the lock should not really be got into here IMO. Thanks for your comments HappyPlace, nice handle.
HappyPlace
(568 posts)Rules can be confusing sometimes, for me.
Anyway, great article.
I can't for the life of me understand why so many seem to support a candidate with so many negatives.
That there is a huge war chest, I get that, and a famous name and a lot of experience in office.
But looking at the details of that experience, I'm not optimistic and think that the wrong candidate will lose the general election with so much baggage, while Sanders speaks to so many people across the political spectrum.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,201 posts)and Larry "God I'm So Smart I Amaze Myself" Summers -- and then, to make matters worse, they actually listen to them. Apparently, the DLC types aren't "evolving" quite as quickly as they'd like us to think.
"Fool me seven times, shame on you. Fool me eight or more times, shame on me." -- Dr. Amy Wong, Futurama
appalachiablue
(41,178 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)on a gibbet.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)or are Bill's for both of them?
Buns_of_Fire
(17,201 posts)He knows it, and he knows WE know it. And, fair or not, some of his sins (so to speak) are going to also taint Hillary's campaign ("Oh my God, not another Clinton!" .
So I'm sure his taking the heat now (such as it is) is partly to deflect it from Hillary as much as possible.
The Jebster doesn't have quite the same problem, since he was never touted as part of a "two-for-one" deal. Not that G.W. will be apologizing anytime soon, anyway.
Disclaimer: My opinion, not to be confused with the opinion of someone who might know what they're talking about. Take it with as many pounds of salt as you see fit.
hatrack
(59,593 posts)"Derp"?
"Uhhhh . . . "?
"Whoops!"
But hey, thanks for the mea culpa, President Van Winkle!
appalachiablue
(41,178 posts)article which states "Clinton's 1994 omnibus crime bill included mandatory sentences, even for minor offenses such as drug crimes. It also contained a federal "three strikes" provision which imposed LIFE SENTENCES for anyone convicted of a violent felony after two or more previous convictions."
The article continues stating that addressing the NAACP conference on Wednesday (July 15), Clinton admitted his tough crime laws LED TO SWELLING PRISON POPULATIONS. "I signed the bill that made the problem worse. "And I want to admit it". In a *VIDEO Clip in this HUFFPO article Clinton discusses his criminal justice policies.
Bill Clinton Speaking Wednesday, July 15 at the NAACP Conference in Philadelphia.
- THE DAILY BEAST published an article on July 15, the day Clinton addressed the NAACP conference, about the former president's recent admission of mistakes regarding criminal justice policies entitled, "BILL CLINTON: I MADE CRIMINAL JUSTICE 'Worse'." According to The Daily Beast article, Bill Clinton said at a NAACP meeting in Philadelphia on Wednesday that he made a mistake by signing the 1994 Violent Crime Control Act that lengthened federal sentences for many crimes. "I signed a bill that made the problem worse. "And I want to admit it."
Clinton sounded a lot different when he signed the (1994) bill : "Gangs and drugs have taken over our streets and undermined our schools. Every day, we read about somebody else who has literally gotten away with murder."
The act, co-written by Joe Biden, promised GREATER FEDERAL FUNDING FOR STATES if they enacted stricter sentencing laws for violent offenses. In addition, it provided MONEY FOR EXTRA PRISONS, FUNDING 100,000 FOR POLICE, CUT HIGHER EDUCATION assistance for inmates, and created 60 NEW DEATH PENALTY OFFENSES.
Finally, the bill created THE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT and BANNED the SALE OF ASSAULT WEAPONS.
Source: The Daily Beast, "Bill Clinton: I Made Criminal Justice 'Worse'", July 15, 2015.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/07/15/clinton-i-made-criminal-justice-worse.html
* DU OP in LBN-Latest Breaking News section, on The Daily Beast article, "Bill Clinton: I Made Criminal Justice Worse".
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141147333
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ZX86
(1,428 posts)I remember the political climate of the time but was complete capitulation to the right wing necessary?
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Since the repeal of Glass-Steagal, they've specialized in all kinds of Wealth Management under the direction of Vice Chairman and former Sen. Phil Gramm:
http://financialservicesinc.ubs.com/revitalizingamerica/SenatorPhilGramm.html
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)"Modernized" = made the way safe for fraud.
pampango
(24,692 posts)He did a lot of things right too.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)rather than any administration policies, to be fair. When the bubble popped in 2000-2001 all of it went away.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)The facts don't bear it out.
pampango
(24,692 posts)in wages and employment during the Clinton years.
In my previous post I used the example of Clinton-era growth to argue that even growth in the mid-3s wouldnt be enough to bring unemployment down anywhere near quickly enough. And sure enough, many of the comments are along the lines of Clinton doesnt deserve credit for the growth or It was all the tech bubble.
Um, I never claimed that it was all Clintons achievement. Nor did what I said have anything to do with the sources of the growth (it wasnt all a bubble, but thats another issue). I used the Clinton year because they offer a useful example of what growth at the kind of rate we just saw in the 3rd quarter means for employment.
Yes, I had a parenthetical aside about Clinton-era growth being faster than most people realize. So?
But I guess I sort of expected this. Even now, any mention of anything good that happened between the end of 1992 and the beginning of 2001 is like waving a red flag. Amazing.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/02/clinton-derangement-syndrome/
Clinton presided over eight years of job growth, with job growth at roughly equal rates in the first and second halves of that eight-year period, and the internet bubble inflated only in the second half.
Yes, dotcoms went to ridiculous levels but people werent borrowing vast amounts to buy them, so there wasnt a deleveraging crisis when the bubble burst.
The point here is that while there was irrational exuberance in the 1990s, the Clinton-era expansion wasnt fundamentally unsound the way the expansion of 2003-2007 the Bush boom was.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/a-tale-of-two-bubbles/
And Obama, of course, was bringing on hyperinflationary collapse with his health reform and tax hikes at the top.
Needless to say, none of it happened; what the Democratic booms show is that you can strengthen the safety net and raise taxes on the wealthy without causing economic disaster.
If politics made any sense, Democrats would be celebrating Clinton in the way Republicans celebrate the blessed Ronald, and theyd be hailing Obama as Saint Bills second coming.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/03/21/democratic-booms/?_r=0
pampango
(24,692 posts)was no exception. The historical pattern shows it is not simply a matter of luck that wages are higher and unemployment lower under Democrats.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)to execute Rick Ray Rector, a death row prisoner with severe cognitive deficits?
Is he sorry for the hundreds of thousands of jobs lost because of NAFTA?
Is he sorry for making so much money out of the Haitian earthquake situation?
appalachiablue
(41,178 posts)comments by him over time about his policies. He's the one coming out with the mea culpa talk the press is picking up, since May at least to assist HRC's campaigns I expect. As to the sincerity of it, I can't comment on that, too cynical anymore.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)gets caught, he is sooooo sorry.
He knew he did something wrong while
he did it, and the carpet is totally ruined.
Billyboy,I feel your pain, NOT.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)just a pop tune that meant nothing.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)The sad thing is he could have been one of our greatest presidents but it just wasn't in him. He had to triangulate to win the approval of the right and big money crowd which for some reason he craved. In the end he helped unravel some of the triumphs of the New Deal and set the country back.