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appalachiablue

(41,178 posts)
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 02:16 AM Jul 2015

BILL CLINTON IS SORRY FOR A LOT OF THINGS, Huffington Post, July 17, 2015

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Note: Open the Link on This Page to see article excerpts, then SCROLL WAY DOWN past the Text and the big white space to see the original article LINK, open to read complete article and watch a *VIDEO of clips of Bill speaking about his administrations' work.
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*DIRECT ARTICLE LINK, Huffington Post Politics, "BILL CLINTON IS SORRY FOR A LOT OF THINGS", July 17, 2015.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-clinton-is-sorry_55a83397e4b0896514d0e220

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BILL CLINTON IS SORRY FOR A LOT OF THINGS, Huffington Post, July 17, 2015 (Original Post) appalachiablue Jul 2015 OP
Not as sorry as we are I'll bet. haikugal Jul 2015 #1
Beat me to it. hifiguy Jul 2015 #15
Is Bill Clinton sorry for asking Paul Ryan to "call him" on cutting Medicare in 2012? daredtowork Jul 2015 #2
Really Bill? Really? artislife Jul 2015 #14
I'm sorriest for "triangulation" truebluegreen Jul 2015 #3
Many US systems & institutions need rebuilding, improving and I hope the Dem. Party is one. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #5
Yes, and even sorrier to see LWolf Jul 2015 #8
The article's VIDEO has a clip where Bill speaks at length on derivatives, risky financial products appalachiablue Jul 2015 #9
He's a decade plus late and 20 or 30 trillion short, hifiguy Jul 2015 #18
He's keeping the money though, isn't he? nt bemildred Jul 2015 #4
Too late now, Bill. bigwillq Jul 2015 #6
Bill offered a mea culpa (Latin, 'through my fault') around sentencing at an NAACP appalachiablue Jul 2015 #7
Why not just post the link to the Huffington Post article (link here). HappyPlace Jul 2015 #10
I get your point, but people frequently cross post, especially after they have typed out and appalachiablue Jul 2015 #11
True, crossposting is cool. HappyPlace Jul 2015 #12
And yet they keep surrounding themselves with people like Tim Geithner Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #13
These Men are Saving the World, like Lloyd 'I'm Doing God's Work!' Blankfein of Goldman said. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #21
Those three and Blankfein would look wonderful hifiguy Jul 2015 #33
Are Hillary's apologies coming soon aspirant Jul 2015 #16
Bill is obviously well aware that some of his policies and decisions really sucked. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #19
What DOES one call it when recognizing reality takes 20 years? hatrack Jul 2015 #17
CRIMINAL JUSTICE was one of the policy areas Clinton admitted was a mistake in this HUFFPO appalachiablue Jul 2015 #20
A reverse Sista Soulja moment? ZX86 Jul 2015 #22
UBS Switzerland is hiring? Octafish Jul 2015 #23
Yeah. They modernized the nation's banking, insurance and securities laws. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #24
Every president has made mistakes, but higher wages, lower unemployment, no wars ... pampango Jul 2015 #25
The jobs and wages were almost entirely the result the Internet Bubble hifiguy Jul 2015 #32
Not true. That is a right wing talking point. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #35
I found some Krugman articles that dispel the "it was all the tech bubble" that caused the boom pampango Jul 2015 #38
The economy normally performs much better under Democratic presidents. Clinton pampango Jul 2015 #36
That much is true. Has been since FDR. hifiguy Jul 2015 #37
I did not read the link, but is Willie sorry for rushing home to Arkansas guillaumeb Jul 2015 #26
I hear you, it's all a mess. Check out the article, it's brief & there's a video of compiled appalachiablue Jul 2015 #29
When my dog tears up the carpet and sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #27
Great analogy. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #30
As he should be, just not as sorry as we are for all the shit he put us through. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #28
We're so sorry Uncle Albert if we caused you any paiin Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #31
He's certainly got a lot he should be sorry for. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #34

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
2. Is Bill Clinton sorry for asking Paul Ryan to "call him" on cutting Medicare in 2012?
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 02:41 AM
Jul 2015

Enquiring minds want to know.




Thanks appalachiablue for the link!
 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
14. Really Bill? Really?
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 01:02 PM
Jul 2015

My brother was correct about him all those years ago. I couldn't see.



Then. But now I do.






 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
3. I'm sorriest for "triangulation"
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 06:53 AM
Jul 2015

and the degradation of the Democratic party: so many ills were let out of the box.

appalachiablue

(41,178 posts)
9. The article's VIDEO has a clip where Bill speaks at length on derivatives, risky financial products
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 11:45 AM
Jul 2015

that were a main part of Financial Deregulation with the Repeal of Glass Steagall in 1999 that he admits was a mistake. Those derivatives and other factors contributed to the housing/mortgage boom and Financial Crash of 2008.

Clinton and US Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers in 2000.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
18. He's a decade plus late and 20 or 30 trillion short,
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 01:21 PM
Jul 2015

and that may be a gross underestimate.

Go home and count your money, Bill. Nobody wants to hear from you anymore.

Gads, Summers looks like a human toad created by Dr Moreau.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
6. Too late now, Bill.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 09:45 AM
Jul 2015

I wish you and your wife would go back to Arkansas and never to be heard from again.

appalachiablue

(41,178 posts)
7. Bill offered a mea culpa (Latin, 'through my fault') around sentencing at an NAACP
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 10:20 AM
Jul 2015

conference this week the article states. I wonder how that went for the organization and thousands incarcerated for strict sentencing and longer time served.

*There is a VIDEO in the article where he discusses many of his policies. *Open the X-Post Link on this page, get to the main article inside and SCROLL DOWN the big white space gap to get to the main HuffPo LINK to open and see the rest of the article & VIDEO.

Photo: Bill Clinton at NAACP conference this week.

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
10. Why not just post the link to the Huffington Post article (link here).
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 12:10 PM
Jul 2015

If this is a violation, I'll remove it, but I think that it was locked in the Breaking News forum because it wasn't breaking, but I'm not sure.

So, here's the link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-clinton-is-sorry_55a83397e4b0896514d0e220

I haven't read it, but thought the readers might want to not have to click through so many other threads to get to the link.

Thanks.

appalachiablue

(41,178 posts)
11. I get your point, but people frequently cross post, especially after they have typed out and
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 12:34 PM
Jul 2015

illustrated an OP as I did, and don't want to redo all that or don't have time. And I prefer some 'body', over a thin blue line among thousands here if there's time and a choice. The Op I placed late last night was based on the HuffPo article of the same day, July 17 which said "Edited: 2 Hours Ago". That changed hours later to a specific time. The basis of the lock should not really be got into here IMO. Thanks for your comments HappyPlace, nice handle.

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
12. True, crossposting is cool.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 12:50 PM
Jul 2015

Rules can be confusing sometimes, for me.

Anyway, great article.

I can't for the life of me understand why so many seem to support a candidate with so many negatives.

That there is a huge war chest, I get that, and a famous name and a lot of experience in office.

But looking at the details of that experience, I'm not optimistic and think that the wrong candidate will lose the general election with so much baggage, while Sanders speaks to so many people across the political spectrum.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,201 posts)
13. And yet they keep surrounding themselves with people like Tim Geithner
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 12:55 PM
Jul 2015

and Larry "God I'm So Smart I Amaze Myself" Summers -- and then, to make matters worse, they actually listen to them. Apparently, the DLC types aren't "evolving" quite as quickly as they'd like us to think.

"Fool me seven times, shame on you. Fool me eight or more times, shame on me." -- Dr. Amy Wong, Futurama

Buns_of_Fire

(17,201 posts)
19. Bill is obviously well aware that some of his policies and decisions really sucked.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 02:51 PM
Jul 2015

He knows it, and he knows WE know it. And, fair or not, some of his sins (so to speak) are going to also taint Hillary's campaign ("Oh my God, not another Clinton!&quot .

So I'm sure his taking the heat now (such as it is) is partly to deflect it from Hillary as much as possible.

The Jebster doesn't have quite the same problem, since he was never touted as part of a "two-for-one" deal. Not that G.W. will be apologizing anytime soon, anyway.

Disclaimer: My opinion, not to be confused with the opinion of someone who might know what they're talking about. Take it with as many pounds of salt as you see fit.

hatrack

(59,593 posts)
17. What DOES one call it when recognizing reality takes 20 years?
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 01:20 PM
Jul 2015

"Derp"?

"Uhhhh . . . "?

"Whoops!"

But hey, thanks for the mea culpa, President Van Winkle!

appalachiablue

(41,178 posts)
20. CRIMINAL JUSTICE was one of the policy areas Clinton admitted was a mistake in this HUFFPO
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 03:00 PM
Jul 2015

article which states "Clinton's 1994 omnibus crime bill included mandatory sentences, even for minor offenses such as drug crimes. It also contained a federal "three strikes" provision which imposed LIFE SENTENCES for anyone convicted of a violent felony after two or more previous convictions."
The article continues stating that addressing the NAACP conference on Wednesday (July 15), Clinton admitted his tough crime laws LED TO SWELLING PRISON POPULATIONS. "I signed the bill that made the problem worse. "And I want to admit it". In a *VIDEO Clip in this HUFFPO article Clinton discusses his criminal justice policies.

Bill Clinton Speaking Wednesday, July 15 at the NAACP Conference in Philadelphia.



- THE DAILY BEAST published an article on July 15, the day Clinton addressed the NAACP conference, about the former president's recent admission of mistakes regarding criminal justice policies entitled, "BILL CLINTON: I MADE CRIMINAL JUSTICE 'Worse'." According to The Daily Beast article, Bill Clinton said at a NAACP meeting in Philadelphia on Wednesday that he made a mistake by signing the 1994 Violent Crime Control Act that lengthened federal sentences for many crimes. "I signed a bill that made the problem worse. "And I want to admit it."
Clinton sounded a lot different when he signed the (1994) bill : "Gangs and drugs have taken over our streets and undermined our schools. Every day, we read about somebody else who has literally gotten away with murder."

The act, co-written by Joe Biden, promised GREATER FEDERAL FUNDING FOR STATES if they enacted stricter sentencing laws for violent offenses. In addition, it provided MONEY FOR EXTRA PRISONS, FUNDING 100,000 FOR POLICE, CUT HIGHER EDUCATION assistance for inmates, and created 60 NEW DEATH PENALTY OFFENSES.
Finally, the bill created THE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT and BANNED the SALE OF ASSAULT WEAPONS.

Source: The Daily Beast, "Bill Clinton: I Made Criminal Justice 'Worse'", July 15, 2015.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/07/15/clinton-i-made-criminal-justice-worse.html

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ZX86

(1,428 posts)
22. A reverse Sista Soulja moment?
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 03:22 PM
Jul 2015

I remember the political climate of the time but was complete capitulation to the right wing necessary?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
23. UBS Switzerland is hiring?
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 03:34 PM
Jul 2015

Since the repeal of Glass-Steagal, they've specialized in all kinds of Wealth Management under the direction of Vice Chairman and former Sen. Phil Gramm:

http://financialservicesinc.ubs.com/revitalizingamerica/SenatorPhilGramm.html

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
24. Yeah. They modernized the nation's banking, insurance and securities laws.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 04:28 PM
Jul 2015


"Modernized" = made the way safe for fraud.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
25. Every president has made mistakes, but higher wages, lower unemployment, no wars ...
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 05:28 PM
Jul 2015

He did a lot of things right too.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
32. The jobs and wages were almost entirely the result the Internet Bubble
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 06:35 PM
Jul 2015

rather than any administration policies, to be fair. When the bubble popped in 2000-2001 all of it went away.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
38. I found some Krugman articles that dispel the "it was all the tech bubble" that caused the boom
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 09:50 PM
Jul 2015

in wages and employment during the Clinton years.

Clinton derangement syndrome

In my previous post I used the example of Clinton-era growth to argue that even growth in the mid-3s wouldn’t be enough to bring unemployment down anywhere near quickly enough. And sure enough, many of the comments are along the lines of “Clinton doesn’t deserve credit for the growth” or “It was all the tech bubble.”

Um, I never claimed that it was all Clinton’s achievement. Nor did what I said have anything to do with the sources of the growth (it wasn’t all a bubble, but that’s another issue). I used the Clinton year because they offer a useful example of what growth at the kind of rate we just saw in the 3rd quarter means for employment.

Yes, I had a parenthetical aside about Clinton-era growth being faster than most people realize. So?

But I guess I sort of expected this. Even now, any mention of anything good that happened between the end of 1992 and the beginning of 2001 is like waving a red flag. Amazing.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/02/clinton-derangement-syndrome/

Clinton presided over eight years of job growth, with job growth at roughly equal rates in the first and second halves of that eight-year period, and the internet bubble inflated only in the second half.

Yes, dotcoms went to ridiculous levels — but people weren’t borrowing vast amounts to buy them, so there wasn’t a deleveraging crisis when the bubble burst.

The point here is that while there was irrational exuberance in the 1990s, the Clinton-era expansion wasn’t fundamentally unsound the way the expansion of 2003-2007 — the “Bush boom” — was.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/a-tale-of-two-bubbles/

I’m old enough to remember the cries of doom when Clinton pushed through an increase in top tax rates. If you were reading the WSJ editorial page, or Forbes, or listening to Newt Gingrich, you knew that it was time to sell all your stocks and wait for the depression.

And Obama, of course, was bringing on hyperinflationary collapse with his health reform and tax hikes at the top.

Needless to say, none of it happened; what the Democratic booms show is that you can strengthen the safety net and raise taxes on the wealthy without causing economic disaster.

If politics made any sense, Democrats would be celebrating Clinton in the way Republicans celebrate the blessed Ronald, and they’d be hailing Obama as Saint Bill’s second coming.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/03/21/democratic-booms/?_r=0

pampango

(24,692 posts)
36. The economy normally performs much better under Democratic presidents. Clinton
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 07:19 PM
Jul 2015

was no exception. The historical pattern shows it is not simply a matter of luck that wages are higher and unemployment lower under Democrats.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
26. I did not read the link, but is Willie sorry for rushing home to Arkansas
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 05:43 PM
Jul 2015

to execute Rick Ray Rector, a death row prisoner with severe cognitive deficits?

Is he sorry for the hundreds of thousands of jobs lost because of NAFTA?

Is he sorry for making so much money out of the Haitian earthquake situation?

appalachiablue

(41,178 posts)
29. I hear you, it's all a mess. Check out the article, it's brief & there's a video of compiled
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 06:09 PM
Jul 2015

comments by him over time about his policies. He's the one coming out with the mea culpa talk the press is picking up, since May at least to assist HRC's campaigns I expect. As to the sincerity of it, I can't comment on that, too cynical anymore.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
27. When my dog tears up the carpet and
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 06:01 PM
Jul 2015

gets caught, he is sooooo sorry.
He knew he did something wrong while
he did it, and the carpet is totally ruined.

Billyboy,I feel your pain, NOT.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
34. He's certainly got a lot he should be sorry for.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 06:55 PM
Jul 2015

The sad thing is he could have been one of our greatest presidents but it just wasn't in him. He had to triangulate to win the approval of the right and big money crowd which for some reason he craved. In the end he helped unravel some of the triumphs of the New Deal and set the country back.

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