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HomerRamone

(1,112 posts)
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 07:37 PM Jul 2015

Greece: Sound and Fury Signifying Much — Paul Craig Roberts

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/07/15/greece-sound-fury-signifying-much-paul-craig-roberts/

All of Europe, and insouciant Americans and Canadians as well, are put on notice by Syriza’s surrender to the agents of the One Percent. The message from the collapse of Syriza is that the social welfare system throughout the West will be dismantled...

The American Democratic Party died with jobs offshoring, which destroyed the party’s financial base in the manufacturing unions. The European left died with the Soviet Union.

The Soviet Union was a symbol that there existed a socialist alternative to capitalism. The Soviet collapse and “the end of history” deprived the left of an economic program and left the left-wing, at least in America, with “social issues” such as abortion, homosexual marriage, gender equality, and racism, which undermined the left-wing’s traditional support with the working class. Class warfare disappeared in the warfare between heterosexuals and homosexuals, blacks and whites, men and women.

Today with the Western peoples facing re-enserfment and with the world facing nuclear war as a result of the American neoconservatives’ claim to be History’s chosen people entitled to world hegemony, the American left is busy hating the Confederate battle flag.
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Greece: Sound and Fury Signifying Much — Paul Craig Roberts (Original Post) HomerRamone Jul 2015 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2015 #1
These days we are all Greeks. copernicusrev Jul 2015 #2
Too many of our party are afraid of Socialism Hydra Jul 2015 #3
Kicking. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2015 #4
Reminder: PCR is a white supremacist lunatic. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #5
I keep thinking that it's the other way around. ananda Jul 2015 #6
PCR is a white supremacist asshat. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #7
I see this playing out in local politics daredtowork Jul 2015 #8

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Hydra

(14,459 posts)
3. Too many of our party are afraid of Socialism
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 09:54 PM
Jul 2015

And the people at the top of our party got drunk off the money the Capital "winners" are shoveling at them.

Still, we're getting a lot done despite our party and their ridiculous embrace of the Right's "values." We have a lot of work to do, and not much time to do it if the climate change information is accurate.

Still, I have hope- the current system is offering less and less to most people. Opting out is going to happen more and more as we go.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. Reminder: PCR is a white supremacist lunatic.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 08:04 PM
Jul 2015

He defends Pol Pot in this piece.

Syriza could not succeed once it failed to nationalize the Greek banks in response to the EU’s determination to make them fail. The Greek One Percent have the banks and the media, and the Greek military shows no sign of standing with the people. What we see here is the impossibility of peaceful change, as Karl Marx and Lenin explained.

Revolutions and fundamental reforms are frustrated or overturned by the One Percent who are left alive. Marx, frustrated by the defeat of the Revolutions of 1848 and instructed by his materialist conception of history, concluded, as did Lenin, Mao, and Pol Pot, that leaving the members of the old order alive meant counter-revolution and the return of the people to serfdom. In Latin America every reformist government is vulnerable to overthrow by US economic interests acting in conjunction with the Spanish elites. We see this process underway today in Venezuela and Ecuador.

Duly instructed, Lenin and Mao eliminated the old order. The class holocaust was many times greater than anything the Jews experienced in the Nazi racial holocaust. But there is no memorial to it.

To this day Westerners do not understand why Pol Pot emptied Cambodia’s urban areas. The West dismisses Pol Pot as a psychopath and mass murderer, a psychiatric case, but Pol Pot was simply acting on the supposition that if he permitted representatives of the old order to remain his revolution would be overthrown. To use a legal concept enshrined by the George W. Bush regime, Pol Pot pre-empted counter-revolution by striking in advance of the act and eliminating the class inclined to counter-revolution. The class genocide associated with Lenin, Mao, and Pol Pot are the collateral damage of revolution.

ananda

(28,879 posts)
6. I keep thinking that it's the other way around.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 08:07 PM
Jul 2015

American neoconservatism is the energy fueling the EU and Greece's capitulation; but it can also be seen as a vicious feedback loop.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
8. I see this playing out in local politics
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 08:10 PM
Jul 2015

The ruling Council blithely ignores what people want and approves big development projects and bows to landlord wishes because those are the people who pay for their campaigns. 100 people can line up before them to speak on an issue without one dissenting voice, and the Council will still obey it's Secret Money Masters. There is no semblance of democracy.

At the same time alternative candidates can't hope to win, and at this point aren't even bothering to try. Every election is swamped with money for campaign literature - even from industry lobbyists all over the country and billionaires with investment interests here. Favor-trading goes on throughout the political cycle. The corruption is so overt that no one seems to think there is a problem with it any more. Of course payola influences politics: that's just the way things are done.

There is no real choice, no way to "throw the bums out" and build some sort of structure that isn't dependent on wealthy donors.

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