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JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 06:37 AM Jul 2015

'Brutality smeared in peanut butter' (from Oct/23/2001)

As darkness deepened over Afghanistan on Sunday October 7 2001, the US government, backed by the International Coalition Against Terror (the new, amenable surrogate for the United Nations), launched air strikes against Afghanistan. TV channels lingered on computer-animated images of cruise missiles, stealth bombers, tomahawks, "bunker-busting" missiles and Mark 82 high drag bombs. All over the world, little boys watched goggle-eyed and stopped clamouring for new video games.

The UN, reduced now to an ineffective acronym, wasn't even asked to mandate the air strikes. (As Madeleine Albright once said, "We will behave multilaterally when we can, and unilaterally when we must.&quot The "evidence" against the terrorists was shared amongst friends in the "coalition".

After conferring, they announced that it didn¹t matter whether or not the "evidence" would stand up in a court of law. Thus, in an instant, were centuries of jurisprudence carelessly trashed.

Nothing can excuse or justify an act of terrorism, whether it is committed by religious fundamentalists, private militia, people's resistance movements - or whether it's dressed up as a war of retribution by a recognised government. The bombing of Afghanistan is not revenge for New York and Washington. It is yet another act of terror against the people of the world.

<snip>

Governments moult and regroup, hydra-headed. They use flags first to shrink-wrap people's minds and smother thought, and then as ceremonial shrouds to bury their willing dead. On both sides, in Afghanistan as well as America, civilians are now hostage to the actions of their own governments.

Unknowingly, ordinary people in both countries share a common bond - they have to live with the phenomenon of blind, unpredictable terror. Each batch of bombs that is dropped on Afghanistan is matched by a corresponding escalation of mass hysteria in America about anthrax, more hijackings and other terrorist acts.

There is no easy way out of the spiralling morass of terror and brutality that confronts the world today. It is time now for the human race to hold still, to delve into its wells of collective wisdom, both ancient and modern. What happened on September 11 changed the world forever.

Freedom, progress, wealth, technology, war - these words have taken on new meaning.

<snip>

Speaking at the FBI headquarters a few days later, President Bush said: "This is our calling. This is the calling of the United States of America. The most free nation in the world. A nation built on fundamental values that reject hate, reject violence, rejects murderers and rejects evil. We will not tire."

Here is a list of the countries that America has been at war with - and bombed - since the second world war: China (1945-46, 1950-53), Korea (1950-53), Guatemala (1954, 1967-69), Indonesia (1958), Cuba (1959-60), the Belgian Congo (1964), Peru (1965), Laos (1964-73), Vietnam (1961-73), Cambodia (1969-70), Grenada (1983), Libya (1986), El Salvador (1980s), Nicaragua (1980s), Panama (1989), Iraq (1991-99), Bosnia (1995), Sudan (1998), Yugoslavia (1999). And now Afghanistan.

Certainly it does not tire - this, the most free nation in the world.

What freedoms does it uphold? Within its borders, the freedoms of speech, religion, thought; of artistic expression, food habits, sexual preferences (well, to some extent) and many other exemplary, wonderful things.

Outside its borders, the freedom to dominate, humiliate and subjugate ­ usually in the service of America¹s real religion, the "free market". So when the US government christens a war "Operation Infinite Justice", or "Operation Enduring Freedom", we in the third world feel more than a tremor of fear.

Because we know that Infinite Justice for some means Infinite Injustice for others. And Enduring Freedom for some means Enduring Subjugation for others.

The International Coalition Against Terror is a largely cabal of the richest countries in the world. Between them, they manufacture and sell almost all of the world's weapons, they possess the largest stockpile of weapons of mass destruction - chemical, biological and nuclear. They have fought the most wars, account for most of the genocide, subjection, ethnic cleansing and human rights violations in modern history, and have sponsored, armed and financed untold numbers of dictators and despots. Between them, they have worshipped, almost deified, the cult of violence and war. For all its appalling sins, the Taliban just isn't in the same league.

<snip>

With all due respect to President Bush, the people of the world do not have to choose between the Taliban and the US government. All the beauty of human civilisation - our art, our music, our literature - lies beyond these two fundamentalist, ideological poles. There is as little chance that the people of the world can all become middle-class consumers as there is that they will all embrace any one particular religion. The issue is not about good v evil or Islam v Christianity as much as it is about space. About how to accommodate diversity, how to contain the impulse towards hegemony ­ every kind of hegemony, economic, military, linguistic, religious and cultural.

Any ecologist will tell you how dangerous and fragile a monoculture is. A hegemonic world is like having a government without a healthy opposition. It becomes a kind of dictatorship. It¹s like putting a plastic bag over the world, and preventing it from breathing. Eventually, it will be torn open.

One and a half million Afghan people lost their lives in the 20 years of conflict that preceded this new war. Afghanistan was reduced to rubble, and now, the rubble is being pounded into finer dust. By the second day of the air strikes, US pilots were returning to their bases without dropping their assigned payload of bombs. As one pilot put it, Afghanistan is "not a target-rich environment". At a press briefing at the Pentagon, Donald Rumsfeld, the US defence secretary, was asked if America had run out of targets.

"First we're going to re-hit targets," he said, "and second, we're not running out of targets, Afghanistan is ..." This was greeted with gales of laughter in the briefing room.

<snip>

Once violence is accepted as a legitimate political instrument, then the morality and political acceptability of terrorists (insurgents or freedom fighters) becomes contentious, bumpy terrain. The US government itself has funded, armed and sheltered plenty of rebels and insurgents around the world.

The CIA and Pakistan's ISI trained and armed the mojahedin who, in the 80s, were seen as terrorists by the government in Soviet-occupied Afghanistan. Today, Pakistan - America's ally in this new war - sponsors insurgents who cross the border into Kashmir in India. Pakistan lauds them as "freedom-fighters", India calls them "terrorists". India, for its part, denounces countries who sponsor and abet terrorism, but the Indian army has, in the past, trained separatist Tamil rebels asking for a homeland in Sri Lanka - the LTTE, responsible for countless acts of bloody terrorism.

(Just as the CIA abandoned the mujahideen after they had served its purpose, India abruptly turned its back on the LTTE for a host of political reasons. It was an enraged LTTE suicide bomber who assassinated former Indian prime minister Rajiv Gandhi in 1989.)

It is important for governments and politicians to understand that manipulating these huge, raging human feelings for their own narrow purposes may yield instant results, but eventually and inexorably, they have disastrous consequences. Igniting and exploiting religious sentiments for reasons of political expediency is the most dangerous legacy that governments or politicians can bequeath to any people - including their own.

<snip>

This is not to suggest that the terrorists who perpetrated the outrage on September 11 should not be hunted down and brought to book. They must be.

But is war the best way to track them down? Will burning the haystack find you the needle? Or will it escalate the anger and make the world a living hell for all of us?

At the end of the day, how many people can you spy on, how many bank accounts can you freeze, how many conversations can you eavesdrop on, how many emails can you intercept, how many letters can you open, how many phones can you tap? Even before September 11, the CIA had accumulated more information than is humanly possible to process. (Sometimes, too much data can actually hinder intelligence - small wonder the US spy satellites completely missed the preparation that preceded India's nuclear tests in 1998.)

The sheer scale of the surveillance will become a logistical, ethical and civil rights nightmare. It will drive everybody clean crazy. And freedom - that precious, precious thing - will be the first casualty. It's already hurt and haemorrhaging dangerously.

Governments across the world are cynically using the prevailing paranoia to promote their own interests. All kinds of unpredictable political forces are being unleashed. In India, for instance, members of the All India People's Resistance Forum, who were distributing anti-war and anti-US pamphlets in Delhi, have been jailed. Even the printer of the leaflets was arrested.

The rightwing government (while it shelters Hindu extremists groups such as the Vishwa Hindu Parishad and the Bajrang Dal) has banned the Islamic Students Movement of India and is trying to revive an anti- terrorist Act which had been withdrawn after the Human Rights Commission reported that it had been more abused than used. Millions of Indian citizens are Muslim. Can anything be gained by alienating them?

Every day that the war goes on, raging emotions are being let loose into the world. The international press has little or no independent access to the war zone. In any case, mainstream media, particularly in the US, have more or less rolled over, allowing themselves to be tickled on the stomach with press handouts from military men and government officials. Afghan radio stations have been destroyed by the bombing. The Taliban has always been deeply suspicious of the press. In the propaganda war, there is no accurate estimate of how many people have been killed, or how much destruction has taken place. In the absence of reliable information, wild rumours spread.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/23/afghanistan.terrorism8

I can't recall if I ever read a column that was as powerful as that one right there from Arundhati Roy. Including the relevancy, history, and consider it very prophetic given that this was written far before Iraq -- even written 3 days before the Patriot Act was signed. I wish I saw it then and wish I was paying attention. This I came across just looking up UNOCAL and Afghanistan. I wouldn't have posted an OP of a column over a decade old for any other reason -- much more at the link.

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'Brutality smeared in peanut butter' (from Oct/23/2001) (Original Post) JonLP24 Jul 2015 OP
The internet was vastly different then AwakeAtLast Jul 2015 #1
Yes. Ms Roy had a lot of company in her ability to see the future back then too. bemildred Jul 2015 #2
Definitely agree on the writer talents JonLP24 Jul 2015 #4
I don't need to read all that, I was here, I watched it, I knew. bemildred Jul 2015 #6
It wasn't meant for you specifically JonLP24 Jul 2015 #7
Many thanks for posting this - it is as accurate now as it was prescient then. erronis Jul 2015 #3
This excerpt struck me... BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2015 #5

AwakeAtLast

(14,134 posts)
1. The internet was vastly different then
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 08:03 AM
Jul 2015

Very chilling to read in light of the events of the past 13 years.

The only people to see it then would have been actual subscribers, locals, or those with internet access. A much smaller audience when compared with today.

Thanks for posting!

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
2. Yes. Ms Roy had a lot of company in her ability to see the future back then too.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 08:20 AM
Jul 2015

It was kind of obvious out here in the reality based community what was coming.

(And she is a hell of a writer too.)

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
4. Definitely agree on the writer talents
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:39 AM
Jul 2015

On edit -- forgot to include the first link before I wiped it. Information warfare with the US media from Vietnam to Iraq 2003. The turning points were the Grenada invasions with the introduction of the press controls & press pools in "Desert Storm" with the importance from Bush "not another Vietnam" which many conservatives blamed the press for losing the Vietnam war.





I accidentally pushed something than "enter" or something and wiped out all that. Instead of recapping all that or typing all that focus on highlights of the post which was things like Operation Information Roadsmap. The propaganda creating a false perception & beliefs intended for their target audience US while on the other side the people get the reality version. CorpWatch does a terrific job, particularly with things the national press omits or neglects.

This series won a Pulitzer on defense contractors building support through the media (short story of everything I said which was the short story I was 14 going on 15 when this came out, caught on right away to the lies of the Iraq war which my present political interest evolves from and a short mention of seeing the country in '06-'07 to give a much better awareness which at-the-time was very far above average (Iraqi hijackers? The media environment was awful, after Donahue was gone all I watched was C-Span, The Daily Show, and The O'Reilly Factor seemingly only to fire up my blood pressure.

Anyways
Behind TV Analysts, Pentagon’s Hidden Hand
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/us/20generals.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Made a short mention of a short CC economics education which made sense of a lot of things as far the world & business is concerned so following all that I was more able to spot things like that so rather than just Iraq (I knew it was a lie but still couldn't figure "the" reason then) quite possibly about oil to the realization all the wars/conflicts/enemies are for-profit. This was a couple of the highlights

I somehow accidentally pasted due to accidentally copying this from the 'Black Budget' tab but I'll leave particularly with this part

‘Black budget’ summary details U.S. spy network’s successes, failures and objectives
By Barton Gellman and Greg Miller August 29, 2013

●U.S. intelligence officials take an active interest in friends as well as foes. Pakistan is described in detail as an “intractable target,” and counterintelligence operations “are strategically focused against [the] priority targets of China, Russia, Iran, Cuba and Israel.” The latter is a U.S. ally but has a history of espionage attempts against the United States.

●In words, deeds and dollars, intelligence agencies remain fixed on terrorism as the gravest threat to national security, which is listed first among five “mission ob­jectives.” Counterterrorism programs employ one in four members of the intelligence workforce and account for one-third of the intelligence program’s spending.

●The governments of Iran, China and Russia are difficult to penetrate, but North Korea’s may be the most opaque. There are five “critical” gaps in U.S. intelligence about Pyongyang’s nuclear and missile programs, and analysts know virtually nothing about the intentions of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/black-budget-summary-details-us-spy-networks-successes-failures-and-objectives/2013/08/29/7e57bb78-10ab-11e3-8cdd-bcdc09410972_story.html

I just have to re-post the text mainly to highlight to "distancing themselves" these Halliburton firms are notable for, particular when it comes to human trafficking slave labor(KBR) for well over a decade.

Halliburton Connected to Iran Office; Firm Says It Doesn't Breach U.S. Law

Since 1995, U.S. laws have banned most American commerce with Iran. Halliburton Products and Services Ltd. works behind an unmarked door on the ninth floor of a new north Tehran tower block. A brochure declares that the company was registered in 1975 in the Cayman Islands, is based in the Persian Gulf sheikdom of Dubai and is "non-American." But, like the sign over the receptionist's head, the brochure bears the Dallas company's name and red emblem, and offers services from Halliburton units around the world.

<snip>

Mr. Cheney's spokesman, Juleanna Glover-Weiss, declined to comment, except to say that "the vice president is no longer head of Halliburton and has severed all ties to the company."

But a U.S. official said a Halliburton office in Tehran would violate at least the spirit of American law. The Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control declined to comment on a specific company, referring inquiries to a Web site summary of Iran sanctions that bans almost all U.S. trade and investment with Iran, specifically in oil services. The Web site adds: "No U.S. person may approve or facilitate the entry into or performance of transactions or contracts with Iran by a foreign subsidiary of a U.S. firm that the U.S. person is precluded from performing directly. Similarly, no U.S. person may facilitate such transactions by unaffiliated foreign persons."

<snip>

"This is not breaking any laws," Ms. Hall said. "This is a foreign subsidiary and no U.S. person is involved in this. No U.S. person is facilitating any transaction. We are not performing directly in that country." Ms. Hall suggested that other companies were performing in a similar fashion in Iran but did not elaborate.

The Halliburton brochure in Tehran says the company has performed oil-drilling services on two offshore drilling contracts in the Iranian sector of the Persian Gulf. One is the Sirri field, being developed by France's TotalFinaElf SA, and the other is Phase 1 of the South Pars field, being developed by an Iranian company. "We are committed to position ourselves in a market that offers huge growth potential," it says.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB980992530511263304

This was post-Vice Presidency when Halliburton violated the corrupt business act for the 20th time for bribery in Nigeria for oil contracts. Don't know if it is in this CNN link but remember the US bribery investigation revealed a Swiss account with nearly a trillion in funds allocated for bribes. Nigeria actually indicted Dick Cheney but settled for fine which was way lower than the bribes they paid.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/africa/12/21/nigeria.halliburton/

I ended up typing more than what I originally had. The main thing is she is excellent in hitting nail after nail on the head on things that are important for us to know & understand when it comes to having policy discussions or this or that but the main thing is pay close attention. Look past Reuters. It is a long dig past the propaganda and perceptions & beliefs. CNN but especially BBC is the most obvious with their editorial slants and biases. Reuters I've been noticing a lot of neglecting and omitting but not as bad as some. 10+ years later and recently I see the International press trying to build support for continued war in Afghanistan such as saying "ISIS looking to expand to Afghanistan" "Drone kills ISIS leader" in Afghanistan. DynCorp & USAID omissions on the corruption front.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. I don't need to read all that, I was here, I watched it, I knew.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:41 AM
Jul 2015

They promised us, our politicians, after Vietnam, that they would learn the lesson. Then they immediately, before Jimmy C. even got out the door, set about doing the opposite. Grenada was the marker, the indicator that told me for sure, but it was obvious when that has-been actor got the Royal treatment, AND HOW HE GOT ELECTED, that we was screwed. There already at the root of it with the back-channel deal with Iran is the corruption of US politics on full display. Stalling the hostage release so as to defeat Carter, just like Nixon thwarted the Paris peace talks to defeat McGovern. They didn't learn a thing, and they still have not.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
7. It wasn't meant for you specifically
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:13 PM
Jul 2015

It made more sense with the personal experience I was original attempt to relate to where I was in 2001 to how I get here in the shortest way possible. I actually accidentally wiped a post before this one out but will try another time. The links fit more what I said and the "Black budget" was an accidental paste over the delete (which included like the whole article somewhere -- I had like 10-15 tabs open at the time) but saw a degree of relevancy there as far as the reality which the personal experience was meant to relay how difficult reality is hard to find. Most of what I post is intended for a general interest rather than anyone specific unless intended to correct something which there was nothing you said to lead me to think otherwise.

Which is why I truly valued this when I came across it. It wasn't probably more than a year ago that I thought Afghanistan was mostly justified or sold on those reasons but looking back to the US long-term interests, the fact that NATO is on-board which usually means "shock therapy" follows and there Afghanistan had one of the worst banking crisis in history in the late 2000s. So the Unocal Afghanistan search hit what eventually happened there. The "goals".

I think they learned lessons but the wrong kind of lessons. Better ways to deceive, snoop, and guard their secrets but same mission as always it seems. The Grenada part if you didn't see it but if you did never mind was the US control of the press which the press objected to and some Independent goes in there interviews a soldier eating MRE-like food complaining that he "doesn't know why we are here" people greet us during the daytime attack us at night so they came with this idea of the "Pentagon pool" and the presentation of "Desert Storm" was very skillfully portrayed. They were also scooped again by an independent who filmed bombs hitting Baghdad and anchors on air editing the reports and claims coming from the ground reporter.






BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
5. This excerpt struck me...
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:44 AM
Jul 2015
Outside its borders, the freedom to dominate, humiliate and subjugate ­ usually in the service of America¹s real religion, the "free market". So when the US government christens a war "Operation Infinite Justice", or "Operation Enduring Freedom", we in the third world feel more than a tremor of fear.

Because we know that Infinite Justice for some means Infinite Injustice for others. And Enduring Freedom for some means Enduring Subjugation for others.


America's real religion is now operating a coup against the American people. Well, maybe that's not new...just infinitely more critical now.
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