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luvspeas

(1,883 posts)
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:05 PM Jul 2015

How many of you are willing to say that the right candidate has not come along yet?

I am just not that into any of the current announced candidates for president. I don't have big complaint about anybody in particular, I just don't feel like anyone out there represents my issues or concerns. Or our country's for that matter.

I'd like to hear from you all if you agree and who you might like to see run and why. I don't have the answers yet.

I guess what I'm looking for is passion and conviction on even one issue, but the ideal person needs that passion and conviction on the following:

Making strong bold moves to address the inequity in this country regarding jobs, housing, policing and general welfare of people of color including making sure that blacks and latinos are in positions of power in their cabinet and appointed positions.

Big changes in our policing and prison system to see that people who are an actual threat to society are punished not tortured and that sentences are fair and allow opportunities for rehabilitation.

Guns! Someone needs to talk about controlling guns, ammunition, manufacturers and the people who can have and carry them.

I'm not expecting everyone to agree. But if you are undecided, what are you looking for?

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How many of you are willing to say that the right candidate has not come along yet? (Original Post) luvspeas Jul 2015 OP
Happy with Sanders HassleCat Jul 2015 #1
+1 Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #3
My horse is in the race. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #2
That would be Jesus Christ. Cleita Jul 2015 #4
so much for the seperation of church and state nt msongs Jul 2015 #14
Christ advocated that! Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Cleita Jul 2015 #18
I support no candidate for two reasons. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #5
I'm with you on waiting... luvspeas Jul 2015 #10
The one that would have gotten me very jazzed, Elizabeth Warren, is not running ... Arugula Latte Jul 2015 #6
Elizabeth Warren would have been Howard Dean-ed too. Cleita Jul 2015 #12
Yes please let him do that. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #17
I hope. eom Cleita Jul 2015 #19
Not me, Bernie is the man.....n/t monmouth4 Jul 2015 #7
Really Bernie Sanders is about the only national politician with a fair amount of profile JonLP24 Jul 2015 #8
No one I'm excited about this time around, though like Arugula I'd have been excited about Warren. TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #9
what do you mean? we've already been graced with The Perfect Candidate 0rganism Jul 2015 #11
For me, he came along in 2004, and was shut down early DFW Jul 2015 #13
I think HRC is the "best" candidate. None are the "perfect" candidate. I really think we can win kelliekat44 Jul 2015 #15
I think Hillary Clinton has sucked all the money out of the room daredtowork Jul 2015 #20

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
4. That would be Jesus Christ.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:14 PM
Jul 2015

Last edited Tue Jul 21, 2015, 02:55 PM - Edit history (1)

But he's not running.

Second best Bernie Sanders, another Jewish man, is fine with me.

This is intended as a humerous response not an advocacy for a religious state.

Response to msongs (Reply #14)

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
5. I support no candidate for two reasons.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:20 PM
Jul 2015

(1) California does not vote until June, and history shows me that we will have decided by that time who will be the nominee. I prefer not to alienate people who I respect becase they take disagreeing with their choice as a personal attack.

(2) By refusing to choose a candidate I am better able to hold Justificaiton Bias at bay.


Now, I do keep score on the candidates as I learn things about their history, their proposed politices, and their actions. If someone suddelnly declared today that we will have our primary, I would use that list to inform my vote. Up to this point, Sanders, Clinton, and O'Malley have, at times, stood at the top of the list. For me, it is like watching a very close horse race.


I hope Biden decides to run.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
6. The one that would have gotten me very jazzed, Elizabeth Warren, is not running ...
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:23 PM
Jul 2015

I like Bernie, but I'm afraid he is going to be Howard Dean-ed.

I would love a woman prez, but Corporate Hillary doesn't do much for me. Of course I will vote for her in the general if she's the nominee, especially for the Supreme Court. Fingers crossed Scalia drops dead in the next few years.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
12. Elizabeth Warren would have been Howard Dean-ed too.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:47 PM
Jul 2015

Our challenge is to overcome this. I think Bernie needs to reach out to organizers in all Black communities to set up meetings for him in churches and other halls so he can talk to the communities and get to know them and their issues and for them to get to know him.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
17. Yes please let him do that.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 02:39 PM
Jul 2015

Surely his advisors are already laying the groundwork for a campaign to do exactly that? They are social-media savvy, no?

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
8. Really Bernie Sanders is about the only national politician with a fair amount of profile
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:32 PM
Jul 2015

that legitimately cares about the people's interests but there are reservations I have with statements, record on foreign policy matters though far better than most which highlights either two things. Lacks information or is misinformed which I can deal with as long as the whole ethics & integrity carries over but if not he is with the program.

What I am certain is it is going to take more than him because what needs to happen is to clean house, two many friends and connected people in Washington. As far as guns I'm hell of a lot more concerned with gun control outside our borders. No one is bigger of an international arms trafficker than the US and the qualified buyers tend to be among the "worst of the worst" of human rights violators. I want to see some honesty, consistency, and integrity out of Washington for a change.

If you're looking for "passion" the historic filibuster from Sanders or him fighting McCain saving VA reform. Though watch out for the charmers, that passion may sound really good but record is much more important than rhetoric and Sanders is about the only I more than half way trust given his long record. I like how it doesn't do that anti-whoever campaign everybody does or make a point to slam critique or exploit an opponent's weakness. Keeps it fair, respectful, and about the issues which he does seem to take quite seriously. You'll have to make your own judgments but the last candidate I'm sure probably put people first was Harry Truman. Everyone else I'm not so sure.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
9. No one I'm excited about this time around, though like Arugula I'd have been excited about Warren.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:35 PM
Jul 2015

O'Malley is the most viable, long-term (as an alternative to you-know-who), though I am fine with Bernie. Both seem competent, honest, and decent. We'll see with Webb, if he gets his campaign rolling more.

0rganism

(23,974 posts)
11. what do you mean? we've already been graced with The Perfect Candidate
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:44 PM
Jul 2015

the heir (hair?) ascendant


he's gonna win the Hispanic vote and then he's going to win your vote too.

DFW

(54,447 posts)
13. For me, he came along in 2004, and was shut down early
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 02:25 PM
Jul 2015

His name is Howard Dean. He's not interested in the slightest now, but if he were to change his mind, I'd be there in a heartbeat.

As Howard is not running, I will be waiting for the declared candidates to convince me that one of them either is or is not the one I want to win the primary. So far, I have no problem with any of the declared Democratic candidates except Jim Webb.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
15. I think HRC is the "best" candidate. None are the "perfect" candidate. I really think we can win
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 02:36 PM
Jul 2015

with HRC but I think we would lose with either O'Malley or Sanders. I like all three but speaking pragmatically I believe we need to go with HRC if we really want to win.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
20. I think Hillary Clinton has sucked all the money out of the room
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 02:50 PM
Jul 2015

Otherwise, I wish Barbara Lee would run.

Bernie Sanders is saying BY FAR the closest to what I want to hear from a Presidential candidate, so he still has my vote. I'm still mildly depressed because I think the time had come for the first female President. It's way past time, really. I don't think anyone in the male political establishment realizes how women think about that. They think "the ideas" should come before anything. Well, "the idea" is it's long past time we had the first female President, and America cannot be in the progressive vanguard as long as a woman hasn't attained that position and served as that role model for all women. It's killing me that Hillary Clinton carries the legacy she does, and I just can't vote for her. I'm praying she doesn't win the Primary because I truly think she will make a bad President for people who are not wealthy.

Barbara Lee would have been a kickass President.

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