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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow many of you are willing to say that the right candidate has not come along yet?
I am just not that into any of the current announced candidates for president. I don't have big complaint about anybody in particular, I just don't feel like anyone out there represents my issues or concerns. Or our country's for that matter.
I'd like to hear from you all if you agree and who you might like to see run and why. I don't have the answers yet.
I guess what I'm looking for is passion and conviction on even one issue, but the ideal person needs that passion and conviction on the following:
Making strong bold moves to address the inequity in this country regarding jobs, housing, policing and general welfare of people of color including making sure that blacks and latinos are in positions of power in their cabinet and appointed positions.
Big changes in our policing and prison system to see that people who are an actual threat to society are punished not tortured and that sentences are fair and allow opportunities for rehabilitation.
Guns! Someone needs to talk about controlling guns, ammunition, manufacturers and the people who can have and carry them.
I'm not expecting everyone to agree. But if you are undecided, what are you looking for?
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)In fact, he's my dream candidate.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 21, 2015, 02:55 PM - Edit history (1)
But he's not running.
Second best Bernie Sanders, another Jewish man, is fine with me.
This is intended as a humerous response not an advocacy for a religious state.
msongs
(67,457 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Render unto Ceasar...
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Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)(1) California does not vote until June, and history shows me that we will have decided by that time who will be the nominee. I prefer not to alienate people who I respect becase they take disagreeing with their choice as a personal attack.
(2) By refusing to choose a candidate I am better able to hold Justificaiton Bias at bay.
Now, I do keep score on the candidates as I learn things about their history, their proposed politices, and their actions. If someone suddelnly declared today that we will have our primary, I would use that list to inform my vote. Up to this point, Sanders, Clinton, and O'Malley have, at times, stood at the top of the list. For me, it is like watching a very close horse race.
I hope Biden decides to run.
luvspeas
(1,883 posts)I want to see what happens.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)I like Bernie, but I'm afraid he is going to be Howard Dean-ed.
I would love a woman prez, but Corporate Hillary doesn't do much for me. Of course I will vote for her in the general if she's the nominee, especially for the Supreme Court. Fingers crossed Scalia drops dead in the next few years.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Our challenge is to overcome this. I think Bernie needs to reach out to organizers in all Black communities to set up meetings for him in churches and other halls so he can talk to the communities and get to know them and their issues and for them to get to know him.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Surely his advisors are already laying the groundwork for a campaign to do exactly that? They are social-media savvy, no?
Cleita
(75,480 posts)monmouth4
(9,711 posts)JonLP24
(29,322 posts)that legitimately cares about the people's interests but there are reservations I have with statements, record on foreign policy matters though far better than most which highlights either two things. Lacks information or is misinformed which I can deal with as long as the whole ethics & integrity carries over but if not he is with the program.
What I am certain is it is going to take more than him because what needs to happen is to clean house, two many friends and connected people in Washington. As far as guns I'm hell of a lot more concerned with gun control outside our borders. No one is bigger of an international arms trafficker than the US and the qualified buyers tend to be among the "worst of the worst" of human rights violators. I want to see some honesty, consistency, and integrity out of Washington for a change.
If you're looking for "passion" the historic filibuster from Sanders or him fighting McCain saving VA reform. Though watch out for the charmers, that passion may sound really good but record is much more important than rhetoric and Sanders is about the only I more than half way trust given his long record. I like how it doesn't do that anti-whoever campaign everybody does or make a point to slam critique or exploit an opponent's weakness. Keeps it fair, respectful, and about the issues which he does seem to take quite seriously. You'll have to make your own judgments but the last candidate I'm sure probably put people first was Harry Truman. Everyone else I'm not so sure.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)O'Malley is the most viable, long-term (as an alternative to you-know-who), though I am fine with Bernie. Both seem competent, honest, and decent. We'll see with Webb, if he gets his campaign rolling more.
0rganism
(23,974 posts)the heir (hair?) ascendant
he's gonna win the Hispanic vote and then he's going to win your vote too.
DFW
(54,447 posts)His name is Howard Dean. He's not interested in the slightest now, but if he were to change his mind, I'd be there in a heartbeat.
As Howard is not running, I will be waiting for the declared candidates to convince me that one of them either is or is not the one I want to win the primary. So far, I have no problem with any of the declared Democratic candidates except Jim Webb.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)with HRC but I think we would lose with either O'Malley or Sanders. I like all three but speaking pragmatically I believe we need to go with HRC if we really want to win.
daredtowork
(3,732 posts)Otherwise, I wish Barbara Lee would run.
Bernie Sanders is saying BY FAR the closest to what I want to hear from a Presidential candidate, so he still has my vote. I'm still mildly depressed because I think the time had come for the first female President. It's way past time, really. I don't think anyone in the male political establishment realizes how women think about that. They think "the ideas" should come before anything. Well, "the idea" is it's long past time we had the first female President, and America cannot be in the progressive vanguard as long as a woman hasn't attained that position and served as that role model for all women. It's killing me that Hillary Clinton carries the legacy she does, and I just can't vote for her. I'm praying she doesn't win the Primary because I truly think she will make a bad President for people who are not wealthy.
Barbara Lee would have been a kickass President.