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KFC's new commercials (Original Post) angrychair Jul 2015 OP
You are not alone there jberryhill Jul 2015 #1
That's Daryl Hammond. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2015 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Thor_MN Jul 2015 #6
More to the point, the Colonel actually did steal that secret recipe from the woman who MADem Jul 2015 #7
I thought he was a fictional character jberryhill Jul 2015 #17
No--his name was Harland Sanders, and he was from Kentucky--the Colonel bit was .... well MADem Jul 2015 #24
How one "steals" a recipe for fried chicken... jberryhill Jul 2015 #25
Nope--the taste is very specific, as is the methodology. MADem Jul 2015 #32
Like the recipe for Duff Beer SCantiGOP Jul 2015 #51
Heh heh!! MADem Jul 2015 #52
That the taste is "specific" is not in dispute jberryhill Jul 2015 #53
Damn it! Now you've done it. I'm hankering for some Fried Chicken. BlueJazz Jul 2015 #56
Who said "better?" That's 'eye of the beholder' territory. But the taste combination IS specific to MADem Jul 2015 #57
I said better jberryhill Jul 2015 #59
One can hold the "taste test" contest, or do an online vote, but that's all oppportunistic. MADem Jul 2015 #63
I love that Who's line video Renew Deal Jul 2015 #38
I get a kick out of those, too--it's amazing how many people have crossed that stage! nt MADem Jul 2015 #40
Many states have honorary titles like that. A Kentucy Colonel is considered an "aide de camp" to the Erose999 Jul 2015 #47
Sort of like Ladies in Waiting! MADem Jul 2015 #54
He was an actual person rock Jul 2015 #62
Yep--elsewhere in this thread I posted some video of him--an old commercial and an appearance on MADem Jul 2015 #65
OK I checked Google rock Jul 2015 #69
It's not the Kentucky part they are trying to leave out. Renew Deal Jul 2015 #18
Well, General Motors and General Electric should order him to stop jberryhill Jul 2015 #19
'selling secrets to the chinese' HFRN Jul 2015 #55
Creepy colonel. madamesilverspurs Jul 2015 #3
I agree that the character is creepy. bulloney Jul 2015 #16
Just went to BK first time in ages and discovered Flying Squirrel Jul 2015 #64
He creeps me out every time Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #22
Meh, no creepier than Ronald MacDonald or the Burger King. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2015 #29
I prefer the John Goodman version virtualobserver Jul 2015 #4
No surprises there considering they aired this racist commercial not too long ago 951-Riverside Jul 2015 #5
I think the awkward situation there is that he is rooting for Australia and he's sitting with the MADem Jul 2015 #8
Thank you. Hiraeth Jul 2015 #28
While the Colonel is creepy, that ad wasn't racist... Violet_Crumble Jul 2015 #9
Thank you. Hiraeth Jul 2015 #30
This advert was run by KFC Australia, not KFC USA SwissTony Jul 2015 #68
That is one creepy dude. JayhawkSD Jul 2015 #10
I had the same ick response as you did irisblue Jul 2015 #15
The real Harland Sanders seemed human. The new commercials are just creepy. SlipperySlope Jul 2015 #11
He stole the secret recipe! nt MADem Jul 2015 #12
Meh, I'm an "extra crispy" guy. Don't eat the "secret recipe" much. nt Adrahil Jul 2015 #20
Did the people who approved this not see how slimy this ad looks? tularetom Jul 2015 #13
Hammond played Bush? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #37
Here ya go tularetom Jul 2015 #39
Read their Twitter feed and you'll get it. Fawke Em Jul 2015 #14
The last person I'm going to take dining advice from is a dead guy. Siwsan Jul 2015 #21
To be fair, it's still an improvement on their Colonel Angus ad pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #23
Hey, now that's below the belt. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2015 #33
Time to burn down every plantation house in the south Blue_Adept Jul 2015 #26
Oh wow. Looks like I am the only one who finds the commercials hilarious. djean111 Jul 2015 #27
He's Creepy dem in texas Jul 2015 #31
It's creepy-funny. Knowing it's Darrell Hammond's dark, weird mind under that makeup is critical. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2015 #34
The ones in the new KFC bucket to me looks like Chinese Sanders Xyzse Jul 2015 #35
Great, now I want some fried chicken.... KatyMan Jul 2015 #43
LOL Xyzse Jul 2015 #44
KFC is huge (or as Trump would say YEWWWWWWJE!!!) in China. MASSIVE. MADem Jul 2015 #48
Exactly... Sometimes I think they made him look more asian to appeal to them. Xyzse Jul 2015 #49
One never knows....! MADem Jul 2015 #50
Ditto Japan.. brooklynite Jul 2015 #58
They all dig the Santa Suit around Xmastime over there! MADem Jul 2015 #66
on purpose Malone Jul 2015 #36
What other options? Mosby Jul 2015 #41
I don't like them but I remember the real Sanders. DawgHouse Jul 2015 #42
They will make billions from the "Trump-eters." All they need is a small confederate flag kelliekat44 Jul 2015 #45
Are people talking about KFC now? Mission accomplished. n/t Fix The Stupid Jul 2015 #46
HA! A new controversy in the NeoHepCat AgeŽ. Next: Kardashian's butt: Is it real? Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #60
It's good to know that Dubya got a job voice acting! Chisox08 Jul 2015 #61
I find the commercials cute... But hey, that's just me. Glassunion Jul 2015 #67
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. You are not alone there
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 12:51 AM
Jul 2015

They have completely rebranded to "KFC", leaving "Kentucky" out of it, and then they bring back this creepy dude with his secret recipe.

It's well known that Colonel Sanders was selling secrets to the Chinese, and it allowed General Tso to advance his chicken technology by decades.

Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #2)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. More to the point, the Colonel actually did steal that secret recipe from the woman who
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:07 AM
Jul 2015

invented it!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
17. I thought he was a fictional character
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 07:50 AM
Jul 2015


I suppose next you'll tell me the Burger King is a brutal dictator.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
24. No--his name was Harland Sanders, and he was from Kentucky--the Colonel bit was .... well
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:32 AM
Jul 2015

some would call it fictional, the state of Ky would call it "honorary." The white suit was his own invention. He failed at a few gigs before he hit a home run with the chicken thing.

He did steal the recipe, he later paid the woman who invented the 11 herbs/spices combo a pittance for it.

In the old days, the REAL colonel--not the fake new one--did his own TV commercials.




He even appeared on WHAT'S MY LINE? right before Kentucky Fried Chicken became really big.





 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
25. How one "steals" a recipe for fried chicken...
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:40 AM
Jul 2015

...is kind of a mystery to me.

The "11 herbs and spices" thing is right up there with "57 varieties". The "secret recipe" thing is primarily marketing fluff. You put any decent combination of "herbs and spices" on fried chicken, and it will be fine. It's not like there is some magic combination that is going to make it exceptional. It's fried chicken.

So, I suppose next you'll tell me that General Tso was executed by Mao or something.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
32. Nope--the taste is very specific, as is the methodology.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 12:09 PM
Jul 2015

It's not the same thing at all. In fact, the recipe (that specific mixture of herbs and spices) is still a "trade secret." They keep it a secret by mixing half the ingredients in one place, and then the other half at another, so no one can put the whole process together without some trouble.

He turned the whole chicken thing into "fast food." Before KFC, they weren't using pressure cookers to cook chicken. It sped the process up enormously:

KFC's original product is pressure fried chicken pieces, seasoned with Sanders' recipe of 11 herbs and spices. The constituents of the recipe represent a notable trade secret. Larger portions of fried chicken are served in a cardboard "bucket", which has become a well known feature of the chain since it was first introduced by franchisee Pete Harman in 1957. Since the early 1990s, KFC has expanded its menu to offer other chicken products such as chicken fillet burgers and wraps, as well as salads and side dishes, such as French fries and coleslaw, desserts, and soft drinks, the latter often supplied by PepsiCo. KFC is known for its former and current slogan "Finger Lickin' Good", which was replaced by "Nobody does chicken like KFC" and "So good" in the interim. ... KFC initially used stove-top covered cooking pots to fry its chicken.[157] In the 1960s, the officially recommended model was the L S Hartzog developed "KFC 20-Head Cooker", a large device that cost $16,000.[158] The Hartzog model had no oil filtration system, meaning that filtering had to be done manually, and the pressure fryers occasionally exploded.[157] In 1969, an engineer called Winston Shelton developed the "Collectramatic 519" pressure fryer that would self-filter the oil, and used precision timers and temperature controls.[157] Fred Jeffries, then vice president of purchasing at KFC, claimed that the invention helped fuel the company's rapid expansion and success: "There's no way it could have grown like it did without the Collectramatic. Stores were doing about $200,000 a year in sales on average with the pots but they could never have done the $900,000 a year it became without Win's fryer."[157]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KFC


And he stole the recipe from Miss Chidress, but her family complained so he gave them 1200 bucks.

SCantiGOP

(13,873 posts)
51. Like the recipe for Duff Beer
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:40 PM
Jul 2015

Maggie opened the Duff Beer safe and pulled out the secret recipe. It said "Schlitz and water."

MADem

(135,425 posts)
52. Heh heh!!
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:47 PM
Jul 2015

He paid the lady off for her combo--it was a good investment on his part. Probably a better investment from the people who bought the entire business from him and went global with it.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
53. That the taste is "specific" is not in dispute
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:48 PM
Jul 2015

Let me try this from another angle, and yes trade secrets are an area of practice of mine.

I said:

"You put any decent combination of "herbs and spices" on fried chicken, and it will be fine. It's not like there is some magic combination that is going to make it exceptional. It's fried chicken."

Yes, KFC tastes specifically like KFC.

There is no magical blend of herbs and spices that make it somehow taste better than any other pressure cooked fried chicken with any other combination of herbs and spices.

You know what General Tso's chicken tastes like? Yeah. Does it taste a little different from place to place? Yeah. Significantly? No.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
56. Damn it! Now you've done it. I'm hankering for some Fried Chicken.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:58 PM
Jul 2015

Actually, the old lady across the street gave me some chicken the other night (I know her well) ..She used her
own recipe. Excellent!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
57. Who said "better?" That's 'eye of the beholder' territory. But the taste combination IS specific to
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:01 PM
Jul 2015

the brand. Fried chicken is NOT simply fried chicken. People who eat a lot of it can take a bite blindfolded and tell you what they are eating--and they will complain if it isn't their favored brand and to their 'taste.'

Believe me, I have relatives who will beat my ass if I walked in with KFC instead of Church's, because that's their wheelhouse. I also have friends who "Love that chicken from Popeye's" because that's what they came up with as kids.

There are people who will hold their nose and ignore the politics of Chik-fil-a because they just have to have some of that buttermilk and pickle-brine chicken.

I understand what you are saying, in that people who are not aficionados of the meal will say one is as good as the next, but for those who have their loyalties, nothing else will do.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
59. I said better
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:04 PM
Jul 2015

Correct, it is eye of the beholder territory. There is nothing magical about some proportion of "herbs and spices" that makes any fried chicken any better than any other.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
63. One can hold the "taste test" contest, or do an online vote, but that's all oppportunistic.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:58 PM
Jul 2015

For every person that loves their Popeye's, you can find someone who likes another brand.

But the flavor of each company's chicken is very unique. It's like coke, pepsi, RC cola and the supermarket house brand! People do have their preferences.

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
47. Many states have honorary titles like that. A Kentucy Colonel is considered an "aide de camp" to the
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:11 PM
Jul 2015

Governor.

Nebraska has the "Nebraska Admirals".

NC has the "Order of the Longleaf Pine"

SC has the "Order of the Palmetto"

Indiana has the "Sagamores of the Wabash"

etc etc

MADem

(135,425 posts)
54. Sort of like Ladies in Waiting!
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:49 PM
Jul 2015

I don't think Harland Sanders ever DID anything for the governor--maybe gave him free chicken?

rock

(13,218 posts)
62. He was an actual person
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:35 PM
Jul 2015

From Corbin, Ky, my home town. And I'm old enough to remember him walking around town. There's nothing wrong with wearing a costume and calling yourself Colonel, though AFAIK he was not a Kentucky Colonel (a cheap honorary bestowed by the governor), or maybe he was(?).

MADem

(135,425 posts)
65. Yep--elsewhere in this thread I posted some video of him--an old commercial and an appearance on
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 05:04 PM
Jul 2015

What's My Line?

He was big around the same time that Burl Ives (Frosty the Snowman) was big--little kids used to get them confused!

Apparently, his "Colonel" was an honorific of some sort--at least according to the few biopages I've read about him!

rock

(13,218 posts)
69. OK I checked Google
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 05:51 PM
Jul 2015

He WAS a Colonel, a Kentucky Colonel, title bestowed by Governor of the time. That's an honorary title that anybody that's anybody can get. My roommate in college had a certificate!

Renew Deal

(81,870 posts)
18. It's not the Kentucky part they are trying to leave out.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 08:05 AM
Jul 2015

It's the fried chicken part. People perceive it as unhealthy.

 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
55. 'selling secrets to the chinese'
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:55 PM
Jul 2015

"It's well known that Colonel Sanders was selling secrets to the Chinese, and it allowed General Tso to advance his chicken technology by decades. "

that's actually the funniest thing I've read on this site for a while, thanks

madamesilverspurs

(15,806 posts)
3. Creepy colonel.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 12:58 AM
Jul 2015

Reminds me of the Uncle Sam gynecologist from the republican ads, and his W laugh just adds to the creepiness. Ew.

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
16. I agree that the character is creepy.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 06:57 AM
Jul 2015

In the ads, he looks and sounds like some old pervert. I wonder if the company producing these ads is the same one that resurrected that creepy Burger King costume for the ads they've been running for the past several years.

If anything, those ads make me want to stay away from those places. And it's been years since I've eaten at a BK or a KFC.

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
64. Just went to BK first time in ages and discovered
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 04:50 PM
Jul 2015

That they serve veggie burgers! (At least the one in north Seattle does) and it was good. A pleasant surprise since I'm vegetarian and it wasn't my idea to go there.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. I think the awkward situation there is that he is rooting for Australia and he's sitting with the
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:14 AM
Jul 2015

West Indies fans--these fans would be mostly black, and they would enjoy steel band style music.

It's not racist. You just have to understand the long, interminable thing that is cricket....

http://www.espncricinfo.com/west-indies-v-australia-2015/content/series/810415.html

I do not believe this commercial is at all racist--he's sitting on the wrong side owing to his team allegiance, and he smooths it over with the stupid chicken. The "Cricket Survival Guide" logo kind of gives it all away.




Violet_Crumble

(35,977 posts)
9. While the Colonel is creepy, that ad wasn't racist...
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:16 AM
Jul 2015

If it'd been an American ad aimed at an American audience with a white American guy at a baseball game offering fried chicken to African Americans, then that'd be racist. But this wasn't. KFC in Australia sponsor the cricket. Australia and the West Indies were playing a Test series. That's an Australian fan amongst a bunch of West Indies fans spruiking the sponsors product.

American cultural stereotypes aren't stereotypes elsewhere in the world. Just the same as some of the stereotypes here about our black population aren't stereotypes in the US.

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
68. This advert was run by KFC Australia, not KFC USA
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 05:25 PM
Jul 2015

As has been pointed out, we don't have the same stereotypes as people in the US. We have our own...ask us about New Zealand men and sheep. Baaaaahhhh!

Amazingly, there are still 3 or 4 threads going to this day on youtube about this ad. The Windies toured in 2010!!!

A couple of salient facts...

No member of any of the West Indies governments voiced an objection to the ad.

No member of any of the West Indies team voiced an objection to the ad.

To the best of my knowledge, no member of the West Indian public voiced an objection to the ad.

The captain of the West Indian team at the time (Chris Gayle) was most certainly not a shrinking violet. He would not have have tolerated this if he had felt it was racist.

KFC Oz pulled the ad in Australia because KFC US asked them to because it was having negative effects in the US. Not because KFC Oz thought it was racist.

Most Australians (including myself) were unaware of the African-American/chicken stereotype when this ad was aired.


 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
10. That is one creepy dude.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:18 AM
Jul 2015

When that commeriall comes on I start checking where my kids are. That creep makes my skin crawl.

You think I'm buying any KFC while they are paying a pedohile to talk about their product you are nuts.

SlipperySlope

(2,751 posts)
11. The real Harland Sanders seemed human. The new commercials are just creepy.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:30 AM
Jul 2015

I remember hearing Harland Sanders speak. Watching his old videos makes him seem very human and down-to-earth (in a salty way).

I would have loved the idea if KFC had digitized and cleaned up old Sanders' videos, but Darrell Hammond playing Sanders just seems creepy. Every time I feel like I'm watching some sort of weird parody.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
13. Did the people who approved this not see how slimy this ad looks?
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:43 AM
Jul 2015

And to make matters worse, Darrell Hammond brought all his little GW Bush mannerisms to the character.

They did need to do something because the brand is old and tired. They were looking for something new and fresh. This ain't it. Sorry to echo the comments of so many others but it's just creepy.

Siwsan

(26,289 posts)
21. The last person I'm going to take dining advice from is a dead guy.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 08:26 AM
Jul 2015

Those commercials trigger my 'hit the mute button' reflex, every time

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
26. Time to burn down every plantation house in the south
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:44 AM
Jul 2015

and the north and the west.

Because anything you do with those kinds of places looks racist.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
27. Oh wow. Looks like I am the only one who finds the commercials hilarious.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:51 AM
Jul 2015

KFC has a website with more ads, and games and such.
But then, I do like Darrel Hammond. And I have to admit - it seems a little bit to me like Bill Clinton doing the commercials, and it reminds me of Hammond's great SNL skits. I look at the ads as stand-up comedy.

This has some of the clips, and some explanation of where KFC was going with this:
http://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-branding/darrell-hammond-colonel-sanders-wks-big-new-campaign-kfc-164871

This is a weird interactive thing:
http://www.colonelsanders.com/#early-years

I also love Eddie Izzard.

edited to add - I did not think about plantations and race when I looked at the commercials.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
31. He's Creepy
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 12:04 PM
Jul 2015

That creepy chuckle! Not someone I'd want to be around my daughters. And he doesn't have a southern accent, so fake. KFC will kill this ad campaign if they are smart.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
48. KFC is huge (or as Trump would say YEWWWWWWJE!!!) in China. MASSIVE.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:17 PM
Jul 2015

They have way more menu items than in USA too.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
50. One never knows....!
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:37 PM
Jul 2015

I used to go to a KFC in Iran on occasion. The chicken was halal, but the "secret recipe" was the same! They had some local stuff on the menu, too--like lamb done up with the secret recipe.

You could smell it cooking all over the square--a real temptation during Ramadan. They'd put sheets up in the window so you couldn't see people eating inside during the holy month. Everyone who went in between dawn and dusk would bring a suitcase (travellers are exempt from the daily fast--the idea is that you 'make it up' later--like if you missed a test or something at school). They did a very good job of running the franchise--it was clean, bustling with customers, and they moved a lot of product! I often wonder if that place is still there--the neighborhood has gotten very high-end, so it's probably the site of a luxury high rise, now...

MADem

(135,425 posts)
66. They all dig the Santa Suit around Xmastime over there!
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 05:07 PM
Jul 2015

Picture a dozen bowing greeters as you slide into the department store, all decked out in Santa costume!

My favorite fast food treat in Japan (of the large well-known world-wide franchises, I mean) was the "corn soup" available at Ma-ku-do-na-do! Mmmm mmmm--I'd take that over a Big Mac anyday!

Malone

(39 posts)
36. on purpose
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 12:33 PM
Jul 2015

It's trying to be funny/creepy/ironic on purpose, in an attempt to appeal to the millennial hipster types. It's the exact same thing Burger King did with the creepy King guy. It's making fun of Col.Sanders.

Also they are on my list along with Taco Bell, McD, BK, JackBox etc. as places I never go and don't understand why anyone does with so many other options out there. I haven't been to most of those in 10+years.

Mosby

(16,342 posts)
41. What other options?
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:28 PM
Jul 2015

An 8 dollar burger at five guys?

A 10 dollar burrito at chipotle?

A 13 dollar sub at capriottis?

I can get two tacos at jack in the box for a fucking dollar.

DawgHouse

(4,019 posts)
42. I don't like them but I remember the real Sanders.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:33 PM
Jul 2015

I realized right away that they were meant to be creepy and weren't targeting my demographic anyway.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
45. They will make billions from the "Trump-eters." All they need is a small confederate flag
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:50 PM
Jul 2015

somewhere in the background.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
67. I find the commercials cute... But hey, that's just me.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 05:19 PM
Jul 2015

I give you a man dedicated to the good things of life, to the gentle, the heartfelt things, to good living, and to the kindly rites with which it is surrounded. In all the clash of a plangent world he holds firm to his ideal – a gracious existence in that country of content 'where slower clocks strike happier hours.' He stands in spirit on a tall-columned veranda, a hospitable glass in his hand, and he looks over the good and fertile earth, over ripening fields, over meadows of rippling bluegrass. The rounded note of a horn floats through the fragrant stillness. Afar, the sleek and shining flanks of a thoroughbred catch the bright sun. The broad door, open wide with welcome... the slow, soft-spoken word... the familiar step of friendship... all of this is his life and it is good. He brings fair judgment to sterner things. He is proud in the traditions of his country, in ways that are settled and true. In a trying world darkened by hate and misunderstanding, he is a symbol of those virtues in which men find gallant faith and of the good men might distill from life. Here he stands, then. In the finest sense, an epicure... a patriot... a man. Gentlemen, I give you, the Kentucky Colonel.

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