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Zorro

(15,749 posts)
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:03 PM Jul 2015

NSA leaker Edward Snowden seeks return to U.S., on his terms

Somewhere in the thousands of towering apartment blocks that ring the Russian capital, whistle-blower Edward Snowden remains in hiding two years after outraging U.S. intelligence agencies with revelations of their snooping into the private communications of millions of ordinary citizens.

Snowden's release of classified files he took from his National Security Agency contractor's job blew the lid off programs long said to be aimed at catching terrorists and keeping Americans safe. The leaks triggered a global debate on government trampling of personal liberties and led to last month's congressional action to end the mass collection of telephone records, the first major restrictions on spy agency powers in decades.

The journalists who were the conduits of Snowden's disclosures have been bestowed with their profession's highest honors, as has director Laura Poitras with an Academy Award for her documentary on the fugitive, "CitizenFour."

The film ends with a glimpse of Snowden in a high-rise window that could be anywhere in Moscow's populous suburbs, where one building is indistinguishable from the next.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-snowden-future-20150722-story.html

Good luck with that. Eddie must be missing home, but he isn't going to be setting the terms for any return.

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randome

(34,845 posts)
11. Wow. That's just what Senator Tom Cotton said.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:27 AM
Jul 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]
 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
4. Shame on the LA Times for an editorilal headline.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:13 PM
Jul 2015

They must be missing him and want him to come 'home'.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. On his terms? I love clickbait headlines!!!
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:21 PM
Jul 2015


Good luck with that, Eddie.

At this distant remove from American politics and security concerns, however, the young crusader may be counting on an unlikely shift in public opinion.

Although pollsters find many younger Americans applaud his whistle-blowing, the majority express dislike for him, which probably will discourage leading candidates in the looming presidential election from expending political capital on a call for clemency. In a U.S. News & World Report poll in April, 64% of respondents familiar with Snowden said they held a negative view of him.

Even those helping him navigate the blocked pathway home acknowledge that the prospects look grim for the foreseeable future.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,240 posts)
8. "64% of respondents familiar with Snowden said they held a negative view of him. "
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 02:17 AM
Jul 2015

Count me among them.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
10. Yes--and we can be certain that everything he had on him, the Russians got
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 02:30 AM
Jul 2015

while he was staying in the Russian consulate in Hong Kong, and the Chinese got when that reporter from the SCMP interviewed him.

He thinks his encryption is so tough, but things move fast in the cyber-world. It's rather like imagining that your Tandy computer with the a, b AND c drives is the fastest thing on the block!!! Maybe, for a brief and shining moment it was, but that moment has passed.

I think he misjudged how this all would go down, and I think he erred in placing his faith in the Russians. Unlike some people, it's my personal belief that he had something going on with them from the get-go, maybe even since he worked in Yokosuka, Japan (and vacationed in HK). I think he might have been flipped. I don't think he truly cares about "internet privacy." I think he's part of a long con.

The Russians may have sold him on the whole "You can pretend you're a whistleblower" trick, and he believed them. I think he's stuck now, and he's getting sick of Moscow. Not my idea of paradise, that's for sure. He'd better work hard on learning Russian, because he's going to have to adapt.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,240 posts)
14. Yup. Seems like the more awards he picked up abroad, the more his negatives rose at home.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 01:35 PM
Jul 2015

I agree with you, and maintain that he was turned during one of his many trips abroad, and I never thought of him as a "whistleblower", and eventually the American people caught up as well. I still can't help but wonder why he's so anxious to get out now? He's a hero in Mother Russia. However, I see your point about "placing his faith in the Russians".

I also agree that it was never about "internet privacy". Remember when he thought leakers "should be shot in the balls"?

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
6. Yes because US "terms" are so favorable
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:25 PM
Jul 2015

Saxby Chambliss says Snowden should "hang" for his "crimes" without due process...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141151783

So a Senator who was the Vice Chancellor on the Senate Committee for Intelligence says you should hang before any due process and you think Snowden should just come home without conditions!?



This is proof positive why Snowden was wise to run asap after his disclosures. There's no "justice" here.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
9. He should be charged. But I am okay with leniency in sentencing if (and likely when) found guilty.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 02:28 AM
Jul 2015

I don't believe he intentionally committed espionage, though that was an end result of his actions. He did a really stupid thing by leaving the country and exposing this via Wikileaks. There are Senators and House members that would have listened to him and brought the information forward. He could have went to someone like Ron or Rand Paul or someone like Alan Grayson or Bernie Sanders. He would have been completely protected by whistle blower laws then.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
12. This story seem to be mostly empty babble.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:54 AM
Jul 2015

Idle speculations about Snowden's feelings and boilerplate drivel from his lawyer. I don't really see why it was put in the Front section.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
15. Because the media is trying to recapture the 'glory' days of Snowden's escapades.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 01:53 PM
Jul 2015

Now that he's gone silent, they attempt to recycle film reviews and repackage his previous comments.
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