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CK_John

(10,005 posts) Fri Jul 24, 2015, 10:42 AM Jul 2015

IMO, we are going to lose even if we win.

Why because the GOP understand process and that governing is a collective effort starting with town councils, highway supers, school boards and that the POTUS is just an avatar. A figurehead of the collective.

Having a lame duck POTUS for 4 yrs, unable to get any federal justices confirmed by the Senate unless approved by the teabaggers is not winning

Getting veto's overridden on important social safety issues is not winning.

The difference is we don't pay attention to local issues and have a federal mindset that everything begins and ends in DC and we can just pass a national law to fix local issues.

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IMO, we are going to lose even if we win. (Original Post) CK_John Jul 2015 OP

Still better than a rubber stamp signing every nutty thing the republicans will try to pass. Liberal Veteran Jul 2015 #1

No kidding. Gimme a President willing to veto anything Republicans put across his desk, rather than Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #6

Might as well give up, I guess, eh? MineralMan Jul 2015 #2

No. The Republican brand is fast approaching its 'Use By' date. randome Jul 2015 #3

Which is why Wall St is investing heavily in Third Way. nt HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #4

To me their plan is working great, they are trying to wreak the primary system CK_John Jul 2015 #5

I agree. And if we get campaign finance reform, end Citizens United ..we'll drive them off a cliff. YOHABLO Jul 2015 #7

And who is assigned that task and have they reported any progress? CK_John Jul 2015 #8

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)

1. Still better than a rubber stamp signing every nutty thing the republicans will try to pass.

Reply to CK_John (Original post)

Fri Jul 24, 2015, 10:45 AM

Jul 2015

Just saying.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)

6. No kidding. Gimme a President willing to veto anything Republicans put across his desk, rather than

Reply to Liberal Veteran (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 24, 2015, 10:57 AM

Jul 2015

one who spends all their time enjoining 'bipartisanship' and who feels that he/she should sign anything simply because it made it through the 'process', and that he/she has achieved something by signing crappy legislation.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)

2. Might as well give up, I guess, eh?

Reply to CK_John (Original post)

Fri Jul 24, 2015, 10:46 AM

Jul 2015

To heck with that noise. No, thanks.

randome

(34,845 posts)

3. No. The Republican brand is fast approaching its 'Use By' date.

Reply to CK_John (Original post)

Fri Jul 24, 2015, 10:51 AM

Jul 2015

They will try to hold onto power and do much damage in the process but they are headed for the dustbin of history.

IMO.
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