this "law enforcement system " was set up to protect the robber barrons that seem to allways exist everywhere .

Especially in MSM.

There are so many questions in the thread as well as the OP. There hasn't been a single incident that we've seen that didn't have a ton of unanswered questions, but except for Vonderrit D. Myers, I don't think there has been a victim of police murder with a a many as surround Sandy Bland.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027012134

I don't think there is evidence to support a murder charge, but the fact that she got bumped on the head during the interaction with the cop and was denied her meds during the time she was incarcerated, tells me that she died as a result of the treatment she was given at the hands of those yahoos. And that would seem to me to back up charges of manslaughter/negligent homicide.

I suspect there is enough already for involuntary manslaughter charges. But I think there will be a different story with the independent autopsy.

Thanks for posting this. I have wanted to get a sense of who this woman was ever since the arrest videos emerged.

It makes me incredibly sad that her voice is silenced.

I really liked what she said in one of the videos when she talked about her phone camera and how "we can really do something with this." She had a sense of the tools and the power that can be had by speaking out.

This summer I am teaching freshmen in college in an EOP (Equal Opportunities Program). Many are black. I feel good about the fact that I am teaching these young people that their voice is important. I am teaching them how to speak out so that no one--no one--can ridicule them for logical fallacies or choice of rhetorical format--or any of the other knowledge that those who are skilled in the use of the English language have. They will know their stuff and they will be powerful allies in the fight where words are the sword.


Cher

I hope that they learn to use their voices in a positive manner and live to tell their grandchildren about what they did.

when a two lane road widens to four lanes people naturally keep to the right without signaling. I have been observing three similar sections here in north Texas and have yet to see anyone signal a lane change.

Hell, people often don't signal a lane change when it's already a four lane highway

Doubt it.

In my view she was singled out for abuse once Brian Encinia decided his ass was not being properly smooched for driving while black, not driving while BLM. This cop was out of his depth with her, and he clearly didn't know who he was dealing with. That only became apparent to him when he pushed the envelope, at which point he found himself in a losing, one-sided debate on rights that was truly remarkable given the circumstances.

But, no matter, this is a nauseating tragedy. Watch the videos. Sandra Black was an enlightened, positive and engaged young person. She had an angry side, but so do many white people who have comparatively nothing to be angry about. They still get to masquerade as patriots while the Sandra Blacks of the country play defense and pay with their lives for not walking on eggshells 24/7. It's bullshit.

Getting back to your point, saying she was targeted for her political affiliations is a mistake, IMO, and going down that path can lead to understating the randomness and the prevalence of what happened.

You are probably right. But I still think that her being alone in a cell for three days and her subsequent death may have more to do with her being outspoken than we will ever know.

where did I read that?

Easiest way to avoid that would have been to walk away when he should have.

Maybe this link will help: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027001452#post1

It was pretty sick stuff coming from copologists.

Wow! Just wow. Thanks for clarifying

But I do believe it was the reason why she was eventually killed.

Why else keep her alone in a cell.

....she was firm about her rights. In other words: "uppity." I'm sure she was stopped because she was a black woman with out-of-state license plates. When she wasn't "appropriately" deferential, the cop's arrogance took over. But at some point I'm sure they found out she was an activist, at which point I'm sure they started shitting their pants about her mistreatment during the traffic stop because they knew she would expose them and probably go after them.

I don't believe for a minute that she committed suicide.

That mother fucker really brutalized her. And then they killed her

If they know her license plate number - easy enough for a cop to get that and then follow her around until she makes some minor traffic error, as all humans will do.

BLM activist or not, when a racist cop perceives that a black person is not being respectful enough, things tend not to go well.

But it doesn't always end in solitary confinement and then death. I think her activism played a part. Which is just more racism on the part of the cops.

Certainly your theory is a possibility.

Youtube should have access records, someone in the family should contact them, and request/compel them to provide the records for careful examination. It shouldn't be too difficult to sift them down to accesses in texas, and run a process of elimination from there.

If they DID access her videos, they can wipe the history off of their machines, but they can not wipe youtubes records. Those are fingerprints they can't simply erase, assuming there are any.

If they DID access the youtube videos, records may may shine a light on who knew what and when.

I don't know how to go about requesting the information.

Don't forget though, the DHS has put out information to the local departments about Black Lives Matter. (See the Intercept article posted in this thread)

Additionally, the FBI has infiltrated BLM. I don't believe that they can be trusted in this investigation.

If there is any validity to the Intercept article, DHS would have been tracking her. DPS is tied into the Fusion Centers and so is Waller County. What does it take to get the DHS file on Sandra Bland or on any of us?

Here's the post with the Intercept article for anyone that missed it.

George Orwell was right

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027007100

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This absolutely has to end. Does the UN have to come in and guard over every person of color to make sure that the government doesn't kill them?

This is so outrageous and horrible it's difficult to wrap my head around it

Thanks for posting!

thanks for the link. May I suggest a quick and simple editing fix for the subject header/

Because it reads like Matt Taibbi was Sandra Bland's murderer which I know now you didn't intend to assert. Maybe something simple like quotation marks around title piece, and the word "written" placed before the word "by" will fix that I think.

that targets dissidents,and BLM was targeted since Ferguson which I'm sure is sent to all local police agencies.

Downwinder mentioned it above. It's definitely ridiculous to think the FBI being involved in this investigation means shit.

intercepting a domestic terrorist? They sure went through the car and no K-9. Were not looking for drugs.

and what they do send to local police stations, because if they did alarm the police because of her politics that reeks of Gestapo/ big brother type governance

He could just be responding to a request for information. And he was not getting any cooperation.

Edited to add:

Whatever it was, He was so intent on the lane change trap that he didn't even notice the turn on. Did she run the stop sign?

As soon as she told the cop she was going to sue, she was a marked women.

Which in military terms means to use overkill on the target until it is overwhelmed.

for Black Lives Matter.

Just seeing these videos is breaking my heart.

It's horrific. Just absolutely horrific.

that they found out once they had her in jail. No one should spend an hour in jail or even be arrested, for a minor traffic violation.

She was stopped and assaulted because she was Black, and until it is proven otherwise, she murdered because she was Black.

Without anything to be arrested for. And that officer, just like so many others, is being excused by everyone in law enforcement and government around him

Freedom of Information Act request.

The documents, released by the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Operations Coordination, indicate that the department frequently collects information, including location data, on Black Lives Matter activities from public social media accounts, including on Facebook, Twitter, and Vine, even for events expected to be peaceful. The reports confirm social media surveillance of the protest movement and ostensibly related events in the cities of Ferguson, Baltimore, Washington, DC, and New York.

They also show the department watching over gatherings that seem benign and even mundane. For example, DHS circulated information on a nationwide series of silent vigils and a DHS-funded agency planned to monitor a funk music parade and a walk to end breast cancer in the nation’s capital.

The tracking of domestic protest groups and peaceful gatherings raises questions over whether DHS is chilling the exercise of First Amendment rights, and over whether the department, created in large part to combat terrorism, has allowed its mission to creep beyond the bounds of useful security activities as its annual budget has grown beyond $60 billion.

The surveillance cataloged in the DHS documents goes back to August of last year, when protests and riots broke out in Ferguson the day after the shooting of unarmed black teenager Michael Brown. According to two August 11th, 2014 reports, a DHS FEMA “WatchOps officer” used information from Twitter and Vine to monitor the riots and reproduced a map, originally created by a Reddit user, of conflict zones.



https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/24/documents-show-department-homeland-security-monitoring-black-lives-matter-since-ferguson/

I hadn't heard that before. They might have searched her name on the internet.

They also like to engage you in conversation and pretend to be your pal when they have you locked up. People give up all kinds of personal info to cops acting friendly. She may have given up some info about activism and it could have gotten her killed.

I don't know if this is just conspiracy or what but it's worth somebody looking into it.

But considering the law enforcement agencies involved in the investigation, we'll never know

That talk about the DHS and sharing information with local police departments. The Intercept article in particular.

There is most definitely ways she could have been known to them before she was pulled over. I wonder what State plate was on the car pulled over at the beginning of the dashcam video.

Maybe both but it takes no more than my guess for shit to go real bad, real quick.

Wasn't arrested. I won't be surprised to find out that they are some time soon.

1. Why did he go to the passenger side of her car at first? Maybe that's not unusual, but I've never seen it before.

2. How does anyone not see the unnecessary power tripping of the cop in the following exchange? He is supposed to be the professional in this situation.

TROOPER: "You OK?"

BLAND: "I'm waiting on you. This is your job. I'm waiting on you. What do you want me to do?"

TROOPER: "You seem very irritated."

BLAND: "I am. I really am. Because of what I've been stopped and am getting a ticket for. I've been getting out of the way. You've been speeding up, so I move over and you stop me. So yeah, I am a little irritated. But that didn't stop you from giving me a ticket."

TROOPER: "Are you done?"

BLAND: "You asked me what was wrong and I told you. So now I'm done, yeah."

TROOPER: "OK, OK."

(Pause)

TROOPER: "Do you mind putting out your cigarette, please?"

BLAND: "I'm in my car. Why do I have to put out my cigarette?"

TROOPER: "Well, you can step out now."

He prods her about why she's irritated. She speaks for approximately 10 seconds and he impatiently asks, "Are you done?," as if she's just gone on and on. Her response to this, that he asked and she told him, pisses him off. He suddenly finds her cigarette offensive. And when she asks why she can't smoke in her own car, he orders her out of the car. Just because she asked why. He is clearly feeling the need to flex his power muscles simply out of ego, not necessity.

And of course, this is where things escalate. He clearly loses his cool in this moment, which causes her to lose respect for him. She cannot trust him to behave professionally. At first, she was irritated at being pulled over for such a minor, inconsequential infraction. Now she's fearful. It's not that hard to see why she'd be hesitant to get out of the car. She knows many people, particular PoC, have been injured or killed by angry cops.

3. It's bad enough the video resolution is so low, but why even have dash cams if the cop can just move the interaction out of the camera's line of sight?

4. Does the cop have the legal authority to order a bystander who is recording the incident to leave for no clear reason?

He sped up to catch up with her. You can see it happen and she had not changed lanes until he was already on her ass. Why did he chase her down?

Why take her glasses off? I feel like he did that because he had every intention of smashing her head into the ground.

Why didn't they get her any medical attention? She requested EMS. They not only didn't take her, they lied and said she didn't request any medical attention.

If the pictures of the cell were taken immediately after her death, and nothing was touched, why is there a brand new trash bag liner in the gigantic can in her cell? Why is that can in her cell at all?

Why is the video of the cell when EMS is called to her actually a video of the monitor and not what was recorded? Why is there a pause in the video and nothing showing what happened while we watch a freeze frame? You can see that the monitor is still being recorded but the recording of what is on the monitor is frozen for many seconds. Could be a full minute. What was going on then? I suspect a garbage can is being put into the cell.

Why was she brutalized so badly that a leaf was still in a cut in her back?

What happened when she asked how to use the phone an hour before she was murdered?

Why is there no video that actually looks into the cell or at least a better look at the cell? I don't believe that's the only angle or camera.

Why is the DoJ not involved? The FBI infiltrated BLM. They cannot be trusted in this anymore than the local police can be.

Why is the trooper still working? He was so bad that police departments in the Chicago area are using the dashcam video as a training tape of what NOT to do.

Why hasn't there been any admonishment for telling whoever got the video on their phone to leave and stop recording?

I have so many more questions I could write a book

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he escalated that situation because of his gigantic, racist ego. i hope he is fired, but i doubt it. her death is entirely his fault and i hope his racist ass rots in hell. he should not enjoy another peaceful day on this earth after what he did. and he most certainly should never be allowed to wear a police uniform ever again.

She was mistreated by a cop. cops often mistreat black people who are not outspoken about blacklivesmatter.

Absolutely no doubt about that. But they don't end up in solitary confinement for three days and then end up dead very often, especially for not signaling for a lane change

She was mistreated and the cop deserved to be fired but the theory that she was murdered is not supported by the autopsy, unless you think the medical examiner is in on the big conspiracy.

All the lies and excuses, and the fact that the medical examiner wanted her body back, damn straight I do.

He deserves more than being fired, he deserves to go to jail

Whether or not she took her own life, they are responsible for that.

Can you quote her?

The story has been corrected and updated. They just want the body preserved in case they decide they want to exhume the body to do further testing.

Christ.

That sticks together so tightly when the law is broken than law enforcement

I think he was just a garden variety racist asshole.

But I do question what he found out while in the vehicle, and what was known in lockup.

I have to say that watching those videos is incredibly painful.

I stumbled across her YouTube channel a few months ago. I was blown away when I realized this was the same person that was killed