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http://www.computerworld.com/article/2953514/microsoft-windows/windows-10-roll-out-will-break-internet-traffic-records.html"Windows 10 ... will easily be the largest day/week of traffic ever on the Internet," said Dan Rayburn, an analyst with Frost & Sullivan who also writes on his own StreamingMediaBlog.com, in a piece posted yesterday.
"Unless Windows 10 is a complete flop and people don't upgrade as quickly as Microsoft expects, Windows 10 is going to create some serious havoc with regards to the user experience," Rayburn contended. "Expect to see some download times in the days, not hours, especially if any other content owners happen to have larger-than-expected traffic at the same time.
"Quality of service for downloads could deteriorate really quickly and remain poor for days, if not longer," Rayburn concluded.
more at link
eta: I posted this because we *might* have problems on DU tomorrow.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Are they also distributing it via bittorrent?
Logical
(22,457 posts)NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)HFRN
(1,469 posts)most signs are international symbols anyway
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)But Imma still wait a week or two.... just in case.
still_one
(92,422 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)still_one
(92,422 posts)windows 10 will be doing the windows 8 right this time, just like windows 7 was doing Vista right
However, from what I gather you only have a year for the free upgrade, after which it will cost
840high
(17,196 posts)still_one
(92,422 posts)better
malaise
(269,186 posts)I loved Windows 7 - 8 -not so much
leveymg
(36,418 posts)I'm perfectly happy with 7 - it's more stable than its predecessors, and it runs on my 3 year old laptop. If MS stops supporting 7 in the hope I'll upgrade hardware (again) to run data-hungry 10, that will be their next mistake and a step further toward joining IBM and HP as a defunct IT company.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)I suppose I will buy a new laptop by 2020.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)IF nothing else, M$ can't screw things up with an update in the middle of you trying to do something.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)but they decided that they needed more than 9 offered after the luke-warm response to 8.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)who really cares?
Face it, 99% of traffic now is bullshit, and every time bandwidth goes up sites ad more and more nonsense to download.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)HA windows 10, I say HA again
TexasProgresive
(12,159 posts)95 was pretty good, 98 was more stable, XP was out of sight (yeah, I'm a child of the 60s) 7 was Ok, maybe 10 will be a winner. I'm staying with my MAC. It was the best upgrade I ever made.
Logical
(22,457 posts)gvstn
(2,805 posts)I'll stand by that statement no matter how many diehard XP uses are out there. I had to reload or fix XP at least once every 6 months. My current 7 is probably 3 years old. As long as you have the proper hardware win7 is solid as a rock.
beevul
(12,194 posts)My install is at least 3 years old as well.
My XP install never lasted as long, and never displayed the stability that 7 has.
Again, agreed. On a strong machine, 7 is amazing.
I wouldn't touch 8 with a ten foot pole. So 'bulky' and non-intuitive.
TexasProgresive
(12,159 posts)We had difficulty getting some to work on 7. I had an XP machine that went 2 years without a reboot. Never had that with 7.
beevul
(12,194 posts)Older stuff might play better with the rs-232.
That doesn't mean its better, that just means its more compatible.
In terms of raw gaming power, for example, or video editing, or high demand multitasking, xp isn't even in the same galaxy.
FWIW, I had better experiences with 98SE than I did with XP.
TexasProgresive
(12,159 posts)I think that MS gave up on businesses who want an OS that will be stable and do the jobs required. It is not all gaming and video editing there are loads of people who maintain and service highly technical equipment by interfacing with a PC. We have one Win95 machine to operate a digital cross connect matrix. If that box ever dies it will be bad. I know of some machine shops that have a similar situation with CNC (computer numerical control) metal machining tools that cost more then a software engineers annual salary that are using archaic systems because MicroSoft decided that new was better and did not care if your old stuff worked on it. Probably they were only thinking about "cheap" peripherals like printers and scanners et all. If people have to buy new printers will so what.
But who wants to replace a piece of equipment that does the job and the replacement cost is >$1,000,000, because of a new PC OS.
gvstn
(2,805 posts)Came up with a paid support plan for businesses that want to keep XP for that very reason. Your problem, with the 95 machine is a bigger one than most people realize. Lots of businesses large and small use old software that works fine on older machines but is either very costly to update or there are no updates available. Much of it written for 95/98 and never really ran well on XP.
I've noticed a lot of doctor's offices and supermarkets and libraries have finally switched over to Win7 but there are tons of people using expensive specialized software that needs an older machine and there aren't any being produced. I would think that some niche company could fill this void, producing a new machine with the older specifications. (You can find old machines but why go to the trouble of the transfer for something that is on its last legs. Motherboard components only last so long)
TexasProgresive
(12,159 posts)but I do.
gvstn
(2,805 posts)I just found I constantly wanted to touch my screen to get where I wanted to go. I don't have a touch screen (desktop) so it was very annoying. I can't see actually using a touchscreen on a desktop so I don't think that will be an option.
The underlying engine is fast, so I can see why people think it is an improvement but I think I'm definitely going to stick with Win7 at least until the deadline to update. And that is the other thing that I don't like about Win10, I think MS is going to try to keep more control over how you use it, updates etc. and possibly add in a subscription charge eventually. Just reading between the lines of things I read about its features early on.
Jazzgirl
(3,744 posts)Bought my first MAC in March and have no regretted it. Love it and never have any trouble.
TexasProgresive
(12,159 posts)JEB
(4,748 posts)Atman
(31,464 posts)"Microsoft will break Internet."
You don't need to read beyond that.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Apple users tend to be more impatient for the latest version. Windows users are not known for upgrading quickly.
JCMach1
(27,574 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)get 10 - I'm ignoring it for the time being.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)not a lifestyle or a mass happening. Stop trying to market it to me as Woodstock.
Rex
(65,616 posts)All you got to do is click and it will start downloading. BE WARNED...Win10 the OS is only good for THAT PC. That means you have to buy a new copy of Win10 if THAT PC breaks and can no longer be used!!!
Think about that...
Egnever
(21,506 posts)The vast majority of windows users do not transfer the OS from one machine to another. They buy a new machine with the OS already installed.
Of the people that do most are well aware of windows license limitations.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Now what do you do if the OS messes up, but the hardware is fine? Will you be able to re-install the OS or maybe your PC hard drive died an early death at 1 year - new OS time and does that mean you get a new PC?
Most people that I deal with DON'T have the money for a new PC and want that one fixed. Telling them to throw away the entire PC is a bad business decision and MS seems to be only thinking about large corporations and not end users.
IMO.
DesMoinesDem
(1,569 posts)but that is wrong.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Okay.
Feron
(2,063 posts)It depends on what version of Windows 7/8 you are upgrading. If you bought a retail copy, then yes you can transfer to another computer.
If worse to to worst, you can always call Microsoft and tell them that your PC broke and they will help you.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)It's gotten way past expensive. Is there a rebate form I can download to reimburse me for the hassle?
PS: Steve B., I love ya, man!
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Update, possibly.
Rebate form, you'd have to talk to Microsoft.
On the serious side, IF you update to Win10, you'd want to upgrade your video drivers and other drivers for printers, etc. Your older apps should probably run fine, even if you have to run them in Compatibility mode. Of course, you don't have to update at all. I just posted this in case DU runs weird tomorrow.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)For some reason known but to Balmer, whenever there's a computer update, I see dollar signs in the rear-view mirror.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Beep! Beep! Beep!
Like Reese said in Terminator, "I don't know tech stuff."
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)Pretty sure any machine that has reserved the update has already been downloaded most if not all of the code needed for the upgrade. I don't think there will be a sudden huge demand for files like the op suggests.
That is why that icon has been there for months now for the upgrade to try to avoid exactly the scenario the author is predicting.
Guess we will find out soon.
olddots
(10,237 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I'm perfectly happy with 7 for now.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)[center][/center]
HFRN
(1,469 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)On two of my PCs. Interestingly enough one is 4.04GB, the other is 5.95GB.
Also, the file was originally created on July 10.
Look in the root of your C Drive. If you see $WINDOWS.~BT, and it 3GB or larger, you have the pre-load already downloaded. Note, that you may have to change your settings to "Show Hidden Files, Folders and Drives" in the Folder Option in your Control Panel.
olddots
(10,237 posts)Jazzgirl
(3,744 posts)It's already 89% complete. I'm shocked. I use my new Mac more than anything so if anything happens no problem. It'll be interesting to see how it looks.
meow2u3
(24,774 posts)There are a few problems; one of them is that you can't activate it over the internet--since they didn't give me the product key! I also am a bit frustrated with Adobe Flash running slow.
ericson00
(2,707 posts)I want to download but I can't as of yet
ericson00
(2,707 posts)and I updated to 8.1 the day it came out. I pre-registered for 10 on that little thing near the clock MONTHS ago. Is there a regional rollout or something?
steve2470
(37,457 posts)I'm guessing MS will give more details as time goes on.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Several articles indicate that Microsoft has buried some extremely intrusive waivers of privacy relating to your personal data in its 45 page EULA and privacy notice.
Just an FYI and may be a good reason why this upgrade is "free"