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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts) Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:01 AM Jul 2015

Well, at least SHE's safe...for the moment. Phew!

Rachel Maddow Has The Highest Rated Non-Fox News Show On Cable News

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/07/29/rachel-maddow-highest-rated-fox-news-show-cable-news.html

MSNBC may be canceling their liberal shows, but one show that won’t be going anywhere belongs to Rachel Maddow, who had the highest ratings of any non-Fox News show in July.

According to TVNewser, “CNBC’s Shark Tank is the ninth highest-rated program among the key demo, finishing ahead of all other non-FNC content. MSNBC’s The Rachel Maddow Show finishes No. 15 as the highest-rated non-FNC program among total viewers. Maddow is also MSNBC’s highest-rated show in the demo, finishing at No. 19. Nancy Grace is HLN’s top show in both viewers and the key demo. Varney & Company leads Fox Business Network in both categories.”

After the cancelation of Ed Schultz’s show, there has been a lot of concern among liberals that MSNBC would dump all of their liberal hosts including Rachel Maddow. The ratings demonstrate that Maddow is the one ratings draw on the network. MSNBC executives have consistently taken the wrong lesson from Maddow’s success.

Instead of trying to find smart hosts who have charisma and put the news first, the network has tried to copy Maddow’s format by labeling her a wonk. Rachel Maddow is a policy wonk, but she is also very entertaining. Maddow never gets too deep into policy, and keeps things moving on her show.

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And here you have it:

It is well known that MSNBC considers only two programs safe. The network loves Joe Scarborough for some odd reason, and Maddow remains the face of MSNBC. NBC considers Maddow too “partisan” to be promoted to Meet The Press or any of the broadcast network shows...

Interesting how rarely Joe will allow Maddow to cross paths with him. You can count on one hand the number of times she's been used as a pundit on his show, and he NEVER comes on hers.

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Well, at least SHE's safe...for the moment. Phew! (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 OP

If they can find someone to replace Rachel...she's gone! Stellar Jul 2015 #1

Oh, they have zero loyalty to her...she's bringing in the bucks right now, so she stays. Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #2

They keep her side tracked with LGBT stories. glinda Jul 2015 #36

Whoever thought Toad was liberal in the least??? Teabaggers maybe? nt valerief Jul 2015 #9

I really though Chuck Turd was a Democrat... Stellar Jul 2015 #14

You can be a Democrat in name only. There are loads of them on the teevee and in office. valerief Jul 2015 #17

I guess I'm not as observant as you are. nt Stellar Jul 2015 #19

So long as you see it now, your eyes are open. valerief Jul 2015 #20

It's been a couple of years now since i figured that out. LOL! nt Stellar Jul 2015 #23

Other networks should take a lesson from fox. Get rid of the brick real locations, go virtual, Sunlei Jul 2015 #3

"liberal shows" meaning "fact-based." nt kelliekat44 Jul 2015 #4

Facts, those pesky liberal-leaning irritants... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #10

Nice! Great toon! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #30

... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #32

At least they didn't assume she's popular because she's a lesbian.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #5

Who knows what's being bruited about in the back-office and boardrooms. Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #6

I can see one of them saying, "That explains Ellen." to a room of bobbleheads. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #13

... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #16

Uh, Fox "News" has **news** shows? That's news to me. nt valerief Jul 2015 #7

She runs circles around Todd and Scarborough BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #8

Her brand of take-no-prisoners truth telling isn't welcome... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #11

If you don't want to be worried about Rachel don't think about Phil Donahue. n/t A Simple Game Jul 2015 #12

Point well-taken...off the air faster than you could say "Baghdad Bob!" Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #15

So much for presenting both sides of an argument. I liked his show too. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #21

If they had 1/2 a brain..... daleanime Jul 2015 #18

If she was presiding over MTP, the other Sunday blather-fests wouldn't stand a chance... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #22

The story being put out watoos Jul 2015 #24

Hard to say whether it was his pro-Sanders position, his thankless time-slot, or his Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #26

After they kept moving his time slots it was hard to keep track for me. glinda Jul 2015 #35

I don't know how true they were, but story after story about his bad ratings preceded his dismissal. merrily Jul 2015 #28

Chris Hayes is sharp and has done some outstanding work looking Gloria Jul 2015 #38

Chuck Toad and Dick Gregory aren't partisan? Doesn't anyone call network execs on their bs? merrily Jul 2015 #25

In their $$$-based bubble, your 'partisanship' is only important Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #27

The partnership of networks is rightist first and foremost, and, second, center right. merrily Jul 2015 #29

Phil Donahue had the highest-reated show on the network Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2015 #31

... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #33

Rachel Maddow is one of my favorite shows Gothmog Jul 2015 #34

Rachel Maddow Has The Highest Rated Non-Fox News Show On Cable News Rex Jul 2015 #37

Stellar

(5,644 posts)

1. If they can find someone to replace Rachel...she's gone!

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:28 AM

Jul 2015

They've kept Joe Scarborough forever because he is a Republic0n. The rumor is that Olbermann will be back. LOL, I'll wait and see.

eta: Chuck Turd is not as liberal as once thought no matter how many of sent letters to MSNBC to rid ourselves of him...he's still there.

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

2. Oh, they have zero loyalty to her...she's bringing in the bucks right now, so she stays.

Reply to Stellar (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:31 AM

Jul 2015

glinda

(14,807 posts)

36. They keep her side tracked with LGBT stories.

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 11:35 PM

Jul 2015

valerief

(53,235 posts)

9. Whoever thought Toad was liberal in the least??? Teabaggers maybe? nt

Reply to Stellar (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:01 AM

Jul 2015

Stellar

(5,644 posts)

14. I really though Chuck Turd was a Democrat...

Reply to valerief (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:11 AM

Jul 2015

Of course that was when Obama was first elected as President in 2008 and he was doing the stats of MSNBC. But then, I guess you can't tell much from a person doing stats.

valerief

(53,235 posts)

17. You can be a Democrat in name only. There are loads of them on the teevee and in office.

Reply to Stellar (Reply #14)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:24 AM

Jul 2015

Actually, back in 2008, I thought every could tell Toad was shill for the billionaires.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)

19. I guess I'm not as observant as you are. nt

Reply to valerief (Reply #17)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:40 AM

Jul 2015

valerief

(53,235 posts)

20. So long as you see it now, your eyes are open.

Reply to Stellar (Reply #19)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:41 AM

Jul 2015

Stellar

(5,644 posts)

23. It's been a couple of years now since i figured that out. LOL! nt

Reply to valerief (Reply #20)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:51 AM

Jul 2015

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)

3. Other networks should take a lesson from fox. Get rid of the brick real locations, go virtual,

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:43 AM

Jul 2015

use local 'affiliates' and broadcast from journalists home office locations. Expand the free TV content to increase viewer numbers.

This is why fox is most profitable by far.

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)

4. "liberal shows" meaning "fact-based." nt

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:43 AM

Jul 2015

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

10. Facts, those pesky liberal-leaning irritants...

Reply to kelliekat44 (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:04 AM

Jul 2015

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)

30. Nice! Great toon!

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:27 AM

Jul 2015

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

32. ...

Reply to Enthusiast (Reply #30)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:28 AM

Jul 2015

Couldn't resist. It fit SO well!

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)

5. At least they didn't assume she's popular because she's a lesbian....

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:50 AM

Jul 2015

Wouldn't put it past the stupidity of the executive class.

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

6. Who knows what's being bruited about in the back-office and boardrooms.

Reply to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:57 AM

Jul 2015

Nothing would surprise me coming from corporate headquarters.

Heard around the editorial table:

Well, I guess we've pretty much got the LGBT demographic nailed down. But, what does that do to the + 49 demo?

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)

13. I can see one of them saying, "That explains Ellen." to a room of bobbleheads.

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:09 AM

Jul 2015

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

16. ...

Reply to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:13 AM

Jul 2015

valerief

(53,235 posts)

7. Uh, Fox "News" has **news** shows? That's news to me. nt

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:00 AM

Jul 2015

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)

8. She runs circles around Todd and Scarborough

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:01 AM

Jul 2015

They are lucky to have her. It's a shame (and a pathetic commentary on our media) that she has nowhere better to go right now.

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

11. Her brand of take-no-prisoners truth telling isn't welcome...

Reply to BeyondGeography (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:06 AM

Jul 2015

Shameful indeed...

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)

12. If you don't want to be worried about Rachel don't think about Phil Donahue. n/t

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:07 AM

Jul 2015

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

15. Point well-taken...off the air faster than you could say "Baghdad Bob!"

Reply to A Simple Game (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:12 AM

Jul 2015

'Soon after the show's cancellation, an internal MSNBC memo was leaked to the press stating that Donahue should be fired because he opposed the imminent U.S. invasion of Iraq and that he would be a "difficult public face for NBC in a time of war."'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Donahue#MSNBC_program

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)

21. So much for presenting both sides of an argument. I liked his show too.

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:41 AM

Jul 2015

He was a lot like Rachel is now, calm and digs down into a story to get all of the pertinent facts most others don't even think about.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)

18. If they had 1/2 a brain.....

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:37 AM

Jul 2015

She would be making MTP the best news shop on TV right now.

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

22. If she was presiding over MTP, the other Sunday blather-fests wouldn't stand a chance...

Reply to daleanime (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:46 AM

Jul 2015

watoos

(7,142 posts)

24. The story being put out

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:56 AM

Jul 2015

is that Big Ed got canned because of his opposition to the TPP. I can believe that, but I also believe that he got canned for his coverage of Bernie Sanders. I see Rachel just had a spot covering Bernie, she better be careful. I watch Rachel and Chris Hayes because they stray from the M$M narrative. Anyone who believes that msnbc is liberal needs to explain to me; Phil Donahue, Keith Olbermann, Cenk Uygar, Martin Brashear, Dylan Ratigan, and now the latest bunch.

Olbermann's name is being thrown out as smoke bomb, a decoy, to appease the libruls who watch msnbc. If he is brought back I will apologize for this post.

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

26. Hard to say whether it was his pro-Sanders position, his thankless time-slot, or his

Reply to watoos (Reply #24)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:09 AM

Jul 2015

slightly hyperbolic, sometimes abrasive style that dun him in.

His viewing figures were in the toilet.

It's all about the $$$$$$, as you know.

glinda

(14,807 posts)

35. After they kept moving his time slots it was hard to keep track for me.

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Reply #26)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 11:33 PM

Jul 2015

merrily

(45,251 posts)

28. I don't know how true they were, but story after story about his bad ratings preceded his dismissal.

Reply to watoos (Reply #24)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:15 AM

Jul 2015

Ed, who is a "self-avowed" former Republican very strongly and very obviously supported whatever he supported.

He supported were a strong public option, unions, esp. the unions against Walker, and Bernie Sanders.

However, while he urged and goaded while there was hope, my recollection is that, once the issue was acted on, he did not keep hammering. So, for example, after Obamacare passed without a strong public option, he got behind Obamacare as it passed. He did not keep harping on the public option. I haven't watched a lot of MSNBC, except maybe the overnight re-runs when I wake early enough.

Gloria

(17,663 posts)

38. Chris Hayes is sharp and has done some outstanding work looking

Reply to watoos (Reply #24)

Fri Jul 31, 2015, 01:21 AM

Jul 2015

at the California drought situation...water rights, etc.

I watch him all the time.

I liked Alex Wagner. The Cycle changed at some point...they were getting into silly stuff, softening the politics. Before that, it was pretty good.

merrily

(45,251 posts)

25. Chuck Toad and Dick Gregory aren't partisan? Doesn't anyone call network execs on their bs?

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:09 AM

Jul 2015

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

27. In their $$$-based bubble, your 'partisanship' is only important

Reply to merrily (Reply #25)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:11 AM

Jul 2015

if it weighs in at the bottom of the balance sheet.

merrily

(45,251 posts)

29. The partnership of networks is rightist first and foremost, and, second, center right.

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Reply #27)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:17 AM

Jul 2015

That is how they want the world to be, for obvious reasons, and therefore that is how they proceed.

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)

31. Phil Donahue had the highest-reated show on the network

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:28 AM

Jul 2015

and he got canned and replaced with Scarborough and Savage Weiner

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

33. ...

Reply to Adenoid_Hynkel (Reply #31)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:31 AM

Jul 2015

Gothmog

(145,313 posts)

34. Rachel Maddow is one of my favorite shows

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 09:29 AM

Jul 2015

Rex

(65,616 posts)

37. Rachel Maddow Has The Highest Rated Non-Fox News Show On Cable News

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 11:37 PM

Jul 2015

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