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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo a Big Mac is only going to go up 17 cents with the minimum wage increase.
A new study just showed that once fast food workers get $15 an hour, the average price increase for a Big Mac will only be about 17 cents.
http://www.examiner.com/article/big-macs-will-only-increase-by-17-cents-once-mcdonald-s-workers-make-15-an-hour
shenmue
(38,506 posts)ruffburr
(1,190 posts)Careless enough to eat that garbage, No matter, I'm glad to see some fair pay for workers finally.
AllFieldsRequired
(489 posts)THey dont have the time or knowledge to cook healthy at home.
Our economic inequality is a crime, it is ugly.
kydo
(2,679 posts)Its the funds that generally keep one away from healthier food. Even if strapped for time, money trumps all.
Tab
(11,093 posts)More like, money and resources (both food and kitchenware). Time and knowledge may factor into it, but they seem to be a distant second and third.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)The only thing I can eat from Burger King is the original chicken sandwich.
Now a Big Mac, the only problem is when it isn't a McKinley Mac. That's a Big Mac made with two Quarter Pounder patties instead of the small ones. McKinley Mac - Oh Yeah.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Is that such a thing? I love the occasional Big Mac, but the larger patties would make it perfect.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)McKinley Mac. Like you, I enjoy the occasional Big Mac, and despite my sub 110lbs. size, I have a bigger appetite. I used to order two Big Macs and put them together, until I learned you can order one with two Quarter Pounder patties. It's delicious. They call it a McKinley Mac.
http://hackthemenu.com/mcdonalds/secret-menu/mckinley-mac/
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)You know, it's funny. When I was 180 lbs and you couldn't pinch an inch on me I could Hoover up the food. Eat a whole medium pizza? No problem. Eat a bucket of KFC? No biggie. Now that I weigh about 50 lbs more, I can't make it through a half a pizza. Of course I was younger then, with an out of control metabolism.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I've never eaten a whole pizza, or eaten more than 2 pieces of KFC, but I do know that when I want a burger, I want one that is substantial.
I did once eat 4 Taco Supremes in one sitting from Taco Bell after walking 4 miles and cutting the grass .
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...if you eat 50 of those hamburgers in a year, it's going to cost you an extra $8.50. How are we gonna' deal with that?
Springslips
(533 posts)On Starbucks coffee by two! Oh wait! I'll be paid more. . . Nevermind.
Beartracks
(12,816 posts)eggplant
(3,911 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Wage increases are great and all, but please don't eat that garbage.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Fortunately for me, they discontinued it.
Logical
(22,457 posts)madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)in a year. I might eat one or two.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,061 posts)Nobody can afford that per year. Oh wait!
Did i say nobody?
I meant nearly everybody.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)n8dogg83
(248 posts)Now i have something to give some of my right-wing friends (and shamefully, some of my Dem friends) who freak out about raising the minimum wage. They either say its a jobs killer or companies will have to raise prices so high that no one can afford to buy their products.
REP
(21,691 posts)It's never as good as I think it'll be, but once a year, it's not bad. And it'll taste better if the workers are getting a less terrible wage.
mythology
(9,527 posts)About once a year I get that craving, have one or two, wonder why I craved something that really isn't actually all that tasty and then I'm fine for a long time.
I can't do their burgers though. I was about 20 and just for whatever reason couldn't eat them any more. I have no idea why as I can eat Burger King or Wendys or Jack in the Box just fine.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)but since they have shrunk the patties so much, I get them two at a time. Who remembers "two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun"? It is funny how I have had that remain in my head for 30 years.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)I thought it was some sort of pet food.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)SHHHHHHHHH! Don't give McDonalds any ideas about making pet food!
Logical
(22,457 posts)Iggo
(47,558 posts)And he was surprised when we said no problem?
They don't get it.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Stingy, greedy bastard.
R. P. McMurphy
(834 posts)I wonder how much that one idiotic comment cost the company?
FUCK YOU PAPA JOHN!
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)with more people having more disposable income.
All "basic" goods and services that are targeted at lower wage workers will be positioning themselves to take a bigger cut of this income. Most of it will never truly hit the pockets of the workers making the new higher wage.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)They are thinking, "you don't undestand.... That$.14, and i get NONE of it! It all goes to my <gag> employees...."
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)as an outright theft by the people of what is his by divine right.
Exactly backwards, but that's capitalism for you.
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)udbcrzy2
(891 posts)They usually make increases much larger than that without having a valid reason.
BooScout
(10,406 posts)Just curious.
realFedUp
(25,053 posts)Through the years, the "Big "Mac" has shrunk. Companies will always get their profit.
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)Because they have scale in supply pricing and high gross margins. Small business... not so much. Small business will have to raise prices 20% and have the same amount of volume to make just the same amount of profit. 20% is a huge increase, and people now say they will pay it, but they probably won't. A cup of coffee that is $2.50 will become $3.00. Small business will have to cut back on product quality to increase gross margins to help offset the increased labor costs. Net result to the consumer, who frequents small business... higher prices AND lower quality.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)You buy what you have to. The things that get cut last are things like food and shelter. What people might buy less of are the 'luxuries'.
And besides, a 2.50 cup of coffee is already a serious rip off. You can make a pot of coffee just as good at home for far less.
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)you will never make a better cup of coffee at home that at my coffee shop.
#1) You do not have a $3,000 grinder that is proven to have the most consistent grind size on the market
#2) You do not have a reverse osmosis with a blending valve so that you can dial the appropriate TDS for optimal brewing
#3) You probably do not have a brewing machine that even gets water hot enough to extract properly. Even if you did have one of the two consumer machines available, they do not have pulse and pre-wet adjustment like our pro machine
#4) You do not have a refractometer that is key to determining the precise extraction of the coffee
#5) You do not have the pallate of a single one of our baristas who have cupped hundreds of different coffees from the best roasters around the country
#6) You do not have the most cutting edge knowledge of extraction gained by professionals fanatical about all aspects of coffee
By claiming that you can make better coffee at home that a professional coffee shop, you are denigrating the shops and the coffee professionals that work within it.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)I think I spent $2.00 on a coffee the other day at Country Kitchen. Yes, the pot is bottomless but it's nowhere near the best cup I've ever had. I know I could make a pot much better at home for cheaper. Coffee and tea in casual and fast food restaurants have an enormous mark up. (I've worked in management in restaurants. I love coffee but in most places it really is a rip off.)
A coffee shop with high quality equipment is an entirely different beast. The coffee will be better than what is served at home.The equipment is high quality, the beans are quality and usually roasted and ground on premises, etc. The cost is worth the quality. IHOP and Burger King? I can walk down the aisle of my grocery store and pick up a bag of 8 O'Clock and grind the beans at home or a bag of Community and probably make just as good if not a better cup of coffee.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Sorry, I don't have much of a sense of smell, which also dulls the sense of taste. So a cup of coffee is a cup of coffee, unless it's REALLY bad.
R. P. McMurphy
(834 posts)I have no sense of smell. To me there is no substantial difference in anyone's coffee (unless its been sitting all day or if its too strong).
ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)I would prefer a percolator than patronizing a hipster coffee shop where a cup costs more than a dollar and you've listed several reasons why your coffee is so great yet what you haven't done is said you make a great cup of joe. A Keureg does a fine job and when someone has brought me a cup from a shop, it never tastes that good to me compared to what I can do.
Congratulations, you've managed to make coffee making even more pretentious.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)I say,
oh well!
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)Nothing, because I don't eat that crap but really that sounds like small enough of a sacrifice for those interested in poisoning themselves.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)then I'm all for it.
And although I do not eat Big Macs perhaps there are other places where I do eat that might increase ever so slightly. I like Panera and Saladwork salads. If I have to pay an extra 50 cents for their salads so their employees can make $15/hour then I'm all good for it. That means there will be less people who will receive less food stamps and less section 8 housing in order to make ends meet. And that means my tax dollars could instead be used to pay for more projects like adding cops to our police force or repairing our infrastructure that is in poor condition - that means more people working.
So go ahead. Make me pay 25-50 cents more. It means a stronger economy and I'm all for that!
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)for a salad, and have inferior ingredients too.
olddots
(10,237 posts)For millions and millions of humans .
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)The Galt Gulch McDonald's will still cost the same.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)in that time. I never found I had to raise prices after crunching the numbers. What caused me to raise prices was the cost of the product I was selling. If that went up then my prices were adjusted accordingly.
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)or workers became more productive by being able to handle the more business in the same amount of time.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)miyazaki
(2,243 posts)-Probably over four dollars as it is. Overpriced to begin with.
In addition to raising the price, it will also suddenly become smaller, just
like it has for the past decades.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)For a pretty shitty site at that. Examiner pays by click, and their journalists are hardly investigative.
gcomeau
(5,764 posts)Why?
Orrex
(63,215 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)one-half the bun
The last time I ate at MacD's was several years ago I was traveling and stopped for a Sausage-Egg sandwich. When I opened the wrapper the sandwich was swimming in grease.Some stray animal traveling along US-31 probably didn't mind the grease.
rladdi
(581 posts)Meal ended up costing close to $8.00. Never will go back there.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Orrex
(63,215 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)It's a major trauma for them to think the working class are being paid ANY of THEIR money.
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)It says "Researchers at the university note that a minimum wage increase to $15 an hour would increase fast food prices by only 4.3 percent" and extrapolated that would be 17 cents on a big Mac. But while researchers could estimate what the new wage will add to costs, that does not tell us what it will add to retail price. McDonald's could choose to (a) absorb some portion of the cost, and/or (b) cover the cost unequally, adding more than 4.3 percent to some products while adding less than 4.3 Percent (or nothing) to others. There is no way for a researcher to know know what McD will actually do, just from looking at cost data. Fast food places do not use simple cost-based pricing. For example, they usually have a number of dollar items, that would not all have identical costs. And overall, the profit margin (not just absolute dollars, but the percentage of the price that is profit) is generally higher on, say, a full-price chicken sandwich than on the dollar version.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)increased their minimum wages above ours have cheaper Big Macs than we do. Kind of makes you go hhhmmm. Demand is still a driver on price.
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)Keep worker pay low!
Protect America!
OnlinePoker
(5,721 posts)Here's an article from Salon about robots coming into the fast food industry (among others). McDonalds already has automated tellers being rolled out. Soon there won't even be minimum wage jobs out there.
http://www.salon.com/2015/05/10/robots_are_coming_for_your_job_amazon_mcdonalds_and_the_next_wave_of_dangerous_capitalist_disruption/
Hydra
(14,459 posts)And needs an OP by itself. I think a lot of DUers think automation is pipe dream....when it's already here.
Omaha Steve
(99,658 posts)HFRN
(1,469 posts)2 all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun