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So a Big Mac is only going to go up 17 cents with the minimum wage increase. (Original Post) rsexaminer Jul 2015 OP
Fine with me shenmue Jul 2015 #1
If anyone is- ruffburr Jul 2015 #2
Some folks can only afford $1 menus at these fast food places. AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #29
Um, I think they have "knowledge" kydo Jul 2015 #50
I don't think it's "time or knowledge" Tab Aug 2015 #79
Whopper for me. MineralMan Jul 2015 #3
Eww Aerows Jul 2015 #13
Wait- what? awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #39
It IS such a thing Aerows Jul 2015 #42
Thank you very much... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #44
I work out Aerows Jul 2015 #46
This is going to to ruin McDonalds. I wonder how many people on this forum know that.. BlueJazz Jul 2015 #4
Oh no! I will have to cut back Springslips Jul 2015 #6
. BlueJazz Jul 2015 #7
+1000 n/t Beartracks Aug 2015 #72
If you eat 100, you get a free angioplasty on the side. n/t eggplant Jul 2015 #21
Not sure we know high fat means heart disease! Nt Logical Aug 2015 #62
With a heart attack, most likely. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #25
I was just being facetious. :) I think? I had a big mac about 3 years ago. Didn't impress me. BlueJazz Jul 2015 #30
I used to love the Arch Deluxe. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #32
Lol, olive garden! nt Logical Aug 2015 #64
Egad! How many people on this forum actually eat 50 big macs madinmaryland Jul 2015 #31
I think these Guys do >> BlueJazz Jul 2015 #37
$8.50!!!!! ProfessorGAC Jul 2015 #35
Surely if you eat 50 downed cow burgers in a year you'll be dead, and it won't matter... nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #51
Thanks for the link! n8dogg83 Jul 2015 #5
I hate to admit it, but about once a year a Big Mac sounds pretty good REP Jul 2015 #8
I feel the same way about their sausage and cheese biscuit mythology Jul 2015 #14
I like them occasionally, too... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #40
Do humans actually eat these things? RoccoR5955 Jul 2015 #9
I would never feed my darling anything from McDonalds! leftofcool Jul 2015 #27
Lol, DU food snobs crack me up! nt Logical Aug 2015 #65
Remember when Papa John said healthcare for his employees would cost 14 cents per pizza? Iggo Jul 2015 #10
The guy with a full-size golf course in his backyard arcane1 Jul 2015 #52
Used to eat his pizza regularly. Haven't touched one since. R. P. McMurphy Aug 2015 #61
I'm guessing most goods and services in these areas will start creeping up... cbdo2007 Jul 2015 #11
What bothers them is 14 cents not going in their pockets- it is all they ever think about bettyellen Jul 2015 #15
I was thinking the same thing.... Adrahil Jul 2015 #17
The capitalist sees every dime that is not in his hands hifiguy Jul 2015 #20
Exactly backwards. That's the truth. Cal Carpenter Jul 2015 #26
What could you actually buy with 17 cents? udbcrzy2 Jul 2015 #12
How many articles do you write a day? BooScout Jul 2015 #16
And it will look more like a slider realFedUp Jul 2015 #18
The large corps will be able to absorb this no problem taught_me_patience Jul 2015 #19
I'm paying 2.55 a gallon atm for gas I used to buy for under a buck a gallon. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #53
It's pretty funny when people think they are better than professionals taught_me_patience Aug 2015 #56
A coffee shop is an entirely different thing. xmas74 Aug 2015 #57
Actually what I'm saying is that I can't taste the difference. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #59
Same here. R. P. McMurphy Aug 2015 #63
How about a large cup of don't care? ryan_cats Aug 2015 #69
as a vegan retrowire Jul 2015 #22
Do you know just how much that will cost me every year???!!!??? CBGLuthier Jul 2015 #23
Go for it! If it means that my tax dollars will be used to pay for less gov't subsidies programs LynneSin Jul 2015 #24
You'll probably end up paying $1-$2 more taught_me_patience Jul 2015 #34
this isn't about crappy food its about quality of life olddots Jul 2015 #28
Good news everyone Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #33
Imagine that. When I managed a restaurant for a decade, I had three minimum wage increases Cleita Jul 2015 #36
Impossible unless you cut shifts taught_me_patience Jul 2015 #38
Or management looks for other ways to cut expenses or increase volume of business. eom Cleita Jul 2015 #45
Oh noes! Who'll look out for Mickey D? muntrv Jul 2015 #41
It would help to know the average price of a Big Mac miyazaki Jul 2015 #43
Big Mac Index... PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #73
Are you the "RS" of the Examiner? George II Jul 2015 #47
He's a click farmer. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #55
People still actually eat Big Macs? gcomeau Jul 2015 #48
Because the people who like them vastly outnumber the hipsters who don't Orrex Aug 2015 #67
Yes but they dropped the lettuce and tomato and only use INdemo Jul 2015 #49
I just had lunch at McDonald it was the worst meal ever and burger tasted so bad. rladdi Aug 2015 #54
What a coindenence. Nt Logical Aug 2015 #66
How did it compare with your previous Big Mac experiences? Orrex Aug 2015 #68
And that is assuming the poor stockholders get a raise first.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #58
The article is deceptive. thesquanderer Aug 2015 #60
Another interesting fact is a Big Mac in coutries that have already mmonk Aug 2015 #70
That's terrible! It's the end of the world! America will now fall into chaos an collapse! Kablooie Aug 2015 #71
It doesn't really matter, because those jobs are disappearing OnlinePoker Aug 2015 #74
That's a great article Hydra Aug 2015 #76
K&R! Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #75
First, they came for the Big Macs - but I said nothing, for I was not HFRN Aug 2015 #77
Good. Then maybe the average American's weight will then decrease by 17 pounds. DrBulldog Aug 2015 #78

ruffburr

(1,190 posts)
2. If anyone is-
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:11 PM
Jul 2015

Careless enough to eat that garbage, No matter, I'm glad to see some fair pay for workers finally.

AllFieldsRequired

(489 posts)
29. Some folks can only afford $1 menus at these fast food places.
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 01:17 PM
Jul 2015

THey dont have the time or knowledge to cook healthy at home.

Our economic inequality is a crime, it is ugly.

kydo

(2,679 posts)
50. Um, I think they have "knowledge"
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 07:27 PM
Jul 2015

Its the funds that generally keep one away from healthier food. Even if strapped for time, money trumps all.

Tab

(11,093 posts)
79. I don't think it's "time or knowledge"
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 09:28 PM
Aug 2015

More like, money and resources (both food and kitchenware). Time and knowledge may factor into it, but they seem to be a distant second and third.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
13. Eww
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:25 PM
Jul 2015

The only thing I can eat from Burger King is the original chicken sandwich.

Now a Big Mac, the only problem is when it isn't a McKinley Mac. That's a Big Mac made with two Quarter Pounder patties instead of the small ones. McKinley Mac - Oh Yeah.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
39. Wait- what?
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 04:19 PM
Jul 2015

Is that such a thing? I love the occasional Big Mac, but the larger patties would make it perfect.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
42. It IS such a thing
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 04:23 PM
Jul 2015

McKinley Mac. Like you, I enjoy the occasional Big Mac, and despite my sub 110lbs. size, I have a bigger appetite. I used to order two Big Macs and put them together, until I learned you can order one with two Quarter Pounder patties. It's delicious. They call it a McKinley Mac.

http://hackthemenu.com/mcdonalds/secret-menu/mckinley-mac/

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
44. Thank you very much...
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 04:26 PM
Jul 2015

You know, it's funny. When I was 180 lbs and you couldn't pinch an inch on me I could Hoover up the food. Eat a whole medium pizza? No problem. Eat a bucket of KFC? No biggie. Now that I weigh about 50 lbs more, I can't make it through a half a pizza. Of course I was younger then, with an out of control metabolism.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
46. I work out
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 05:09 PM
Jul 2015

I've never eaten a whole pizza, or eaten more than 2 pieces of KFC, but I do know that when I want a burger, I want one that is substantial.

I did once eat 4 Taco Supremes in one sitting from Taco Bell after walking 4 miles and cutting the grass .

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
4. This is going to to ruin McDonalds. I wonder how many people on this forum know that..
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:22 PM
Jul 2015

...if you eat 50 of those hamburgers in a year, it's going to cost you an extra $8.50. How are we gonna' deal with that?

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
25. With a heart attack, most likely.
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 01:00 PM
Jul 2015

Wage increases are great and all, but please don't eat that garbage.

n8dogg83

(248 posts)
5. Thanks for the link!
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:28 PM
Jul 2015

Now i have something to give some of my right-wing friends (and shamefully, some of my Dem friends) who freak out about raising the minimum wage. They either say its a jobs killer or companies will have to raise prices so high that no one can afford to buy their products.

REP

(21,691 posts)
8. I hate to admit it, but about once a year a Big Mac sounds pretty good
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:57 PM
Jul 2015

It's never as good as I think it'll be, but once a year, it's not bad. And it'll taste better if the workers are getting a less terrible wage.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
14. I feel the same way about their sausage and cheese biscuit
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:16 PM
Jul 2015

About once a year I get that craving, have one or two, wonder why I craved something that really isn't actually all that tasty and then I'm fine for a long time.

I can't do their burgers though. I was about 20 and just for whatever reason couldn't eat them any more. I have no idea why as I can eat Burger King or Wendys or Jack in the Box just fine.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
40. I like them occasionally, too...
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 04:22 PM
Jul 2015

but since they have shrunk the patties so much, I get them two at a time. Who remembers "two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun"? It is funny how I have had that remain in my head for 30 years.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
27. I would never feed my darling anything from McDonalds!
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 01:07 PM
Jul 2015

SHHHHHHHHH! Don't give McDonalds any ideas about making pet food!

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
10. Remember when Papa John said healthcare for his employees would cost 14 cents per pizza?
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:18 PM
Jul 2015

And he was surprised when we said no problem?

They don't get it.

R. P. McMurphy

(834 posts)
61. Used to eat his pizza regularly. Haven't touched one since.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 10:47 AM
Aug 2015

I wonder how much that one idiotic comment cost the company?

FUCK YOU PAPA JOHN!

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
11. I'm guessing most goods and services in these areas will start creeping up...
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:00 PM
Jul 2015

with more people having more disposable income.

All "basic" goods and services that are targeted at lower wage workers will be positioning themselves to take a bigger cut of this income. Most of it will never truly hit the pockets of the workers making the new higher wage.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
17. I was thinking the same thing....
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:17 PM
Jul 2015

They are thinking, "you don't undestand.... That$.14, and i get NONE of it! It all goes to my <gag> employees...."

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
20. The capitalist sees every dime that is not in his hands
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:40 PM
Jul 2015

as an outright theft by the people of what is his by divine right.

Exactly backwards, but that's capitalism for you.

 

udbcrzy2

(891 posts)
12. What could you actually buy with 17 cents?
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:20 PM
Jul 2015

They usually make increases much larger than that without having a valid reason.

realFedUp

(25,053 posts)
18. And it will look more like a slider
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:37 PM
Jul 2015

Through the years, the "Big "Mac" has shrunk. Companies will always get their profit.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
19. The large corps will be able to absorb this no problem
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:24 PM
Jul 2015

Because they have scale in supply pricing and high gross margins. Small business... not so much. Small business will have to raise prices 20% and have the same amount of volume to make just the same amount of profit. 20% is a huge increase, and people now say they will pay it, but they probably won't. A cup of coffee that is $2.50 will become $3.00. Small business will have to cut back on product quality to increase gross margins to help offset the increased labor costs. Net result to the consumer, who frequents small business... higher prices AND lower quality.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
53. I'm paying 2.55 a gallon atm for gas I used to buy for under a buck a gallon.
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 07:37 PM
Jul 2015

You buy what you have to. The things that get cut last are things like food and shelter. What people might buy less of are the 'luxuries'.

And besides, a 2.50 cup of coffee is already a serious rip off. You can make a pot of coffee just as good at home for far less.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
56. It's pretty funny when people think they are better than professionals
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 01:26 AM
Aug 2015

you will never make a better cup of coffee at home that at my coffee shop.

#1) You do not have a $3,000 grinder that is proven to have the most consistent grind size on the market
#2) You do not have a reverse osmosis with a blending valve so that you can dial the appropriate TDS for optimal brewing
#3) You probably do not have a brewing machine that even gets water hot enough to extract properly. Even if you did have one of the two consumer machines available, they do not have pulse and pre-wet adjustment like our pro machine
#4) You do not have a refractometer that is key to determining the precise extraction of the coffee
#5) You do not have the pallate of a single one of our baristas who have cupped hundreds of different coffees from the best roasters around the country
#6) You do not have the most cutting edge knowledge of extraction gained by professionals fanatical about all aspects of coffee


By claiming that you can make better coffee at home that a professional coffee shop, you are denigrating the shops and the coffee professionals that work within it.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
57. A coffee shop is an entirely different thing.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 02:24 AM
Aug 2015

I think I spent $2.00 on a coffee the other day at Country Kitchen. Yes, the pot is bottomless but it's nowhere near the best cup I've ever had. I know I could make a pot much better at home for cheaper. Coffee and tea in casual and fast food restaurants have an enormous mark up. (I've worked in management in restaurants. I love coffee but in most places it really is a rip off.)

A coffee shop with high quality equipment is an entirely different beast. The coffee will be better than what is served at home.The equipment is high quality, the beans are quality and usually roasted and ground on premises, etc. The cost is worth the quality. IHOP and Burger King? I can walk down the aisle of my grocery store and pick up a bag of 8 O'Clock and grind the beans at home or a bag of Community and probably make just as good if not a better cup of coffee.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
59. Actually what I'm saying is that I can't taste the difference.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 07:07 AM
Aug 2015

Sorry, I don't have much of a sense of smell, which also dulls the sense of taste. So a cup of coffee is a cup of coffee, unless it's REALLY bad.

R. P. McMurphy

(834 posts)
63. Same here.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 11:00 AM
Aug 2015

I have no sense of smell. To me there is no substantial difference in anyone's coffee (unless its been sitting all day or if its too strong).

ryan_cats

(2,061 posts)
69. How about a large cup of don't care?
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 11:31 AM
Aug 2015

I would prefer a percolator than patronizing a hipster coffee shop where a cup costs more than a dollar and you've listed several reasons why your coffee is so great yet what you haven't done is said you make a great cup of joe. A Keureg does a fine job and when someone has brought me a cup from a shop, it never tastes that good to me compared to what I can do.

Congratulations, you've managed to make coffee making even more pretentious.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
23. Do you know just how much that will cost me every year???!!!???
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 10:20 AM
Jul 2015

Nothing, because I don't eat that crap but really that sounds like small enough of a sacrifice for those interested in poisoning themselves.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
24. Go for it! If it means that my tax dollars will be used to pay for less gov't subsidies programs
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 10:48 AM
Jul 2015

then I'm all for it.

And although I do not eat Big Macs perhaps there are other places where I do eat that might increase ever so slightly. I like Panera and Saladwork salads. If I have to pay an extra 50 cents for their salads so their employees can make $15/hour then I'm all good for it. That means there will be less people who will receive less food stamps and less section 8 housing in order to make ends meet. And that means my tax dollars could instead be used to pay for more projects like adding cops to our police force or repairing our infrastructure that is in poor condition - that means more people working.

So go ahead. Make me pay 25-50 cents more. It means a stronger economy and I'm all for that!

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
36. Imagine that. When I managed a restaurant for a decade, I had three minimum wage increases
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 03:01 PM
Jul 2015

in that time. I never found I had to raise prices after crunching the numbers. What caused me to raise prices was the cost of the product I was selling. If that went up then my prices were adjusted accordingly.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
38. Impossible unless you cut shifts
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 03:42 PM
Jul 2015

or workers became more productive by being able to handle the more business in the same amount of time.

miyazaki

(2,243 posts)
43. It would help to know the average price of a Big Mac
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 04:23 PM
Jul 2015

-Probably over four dollars as it is. Overpriced to begin with.
In addition to raising the price, it will also suddenly become smaller, just
like it has for the past decades.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
55. He's a click farmer.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 07:34 PM
Aug 2015

For a pretty shitty site at that. Examiner pays by click, and their journalists are hardly investigative.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
49. Yes but they dropped the lettuce and tomato and only use
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 07:23 PM
Jul 2015

one-half the bun


The last time I ate at MacD's was several years ago I was traveling and stopped for a Sausage-Egg sandwich. When I opened the wrapper the sandwich was swimming in grease.Some stray animal traveling along US-31 probably didn't mind the grease.

rladdi

(581 posts)
54. I just had lunch at McDonald it was the worst meal ever and burger tasted so bad.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 02:31 PM
Aug 2015

Meal ended up costing close to $8.00. Never will go back there.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
58. And that is assuming the poor stockholders get a raise first....
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 06:00 AM
Aug 2015

It's a major trauma for them to think the working class are being paid ANY of THEIR money.

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
60. The article is deceptive.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 08:53 AM
Aug 2015

It says "Researchers at the university note that a minimum wage increase to $15 an hour would increase fast food prices by only 4.3 percent" and extrapolated that would be 17 cents on a big Mac. But while researchers could estimate what the new wage will add to costs, that does not tell us what it will add to retail price. McDonald's could choose to (a) absorb some portion of the cost, and/or (b) cover the cost unequally, adding more than 4.3 percent to some products while adding less than 4.3 Percent (or nothing) to others. There is no way for a researcher to know know what McD will actually do, just from looking at cost data. Fast food places do not use simple cost-based pricing. For example, they usually have a number of dollar items, that would not all have identical costs. And overall, the profit margin (not just absolute dollars, but the percentage of the price that is profit) is generally higher on, say, a full-price chicken sandwich than on the dollar version.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
70. Another interesting fact is a Big Mac in coutries that have already
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 11:39 AM
Aug 2015

increased their minimum wages above ours have cheaper Big Macs than we do. Kind of makes you go hhhmmm. Demand is still a driver on price.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
71. That's terrible! It's the end of the world! America will now fall into chaos an collapse!
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 01:08 PM
Aug 2015

Keep worker pay low!
Protect America!




OnlinePoker

(5,721 posts)
74. It doesn't really matter, because those jobs are disappearing
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 07:32 PM
Aug 2015

Here's an article from Salon about robots coming into the fast food industry (among others). McDonalds already has automated tellers being rolled out. Soon there won't even be minimum wage jobs out there.

http://www.salon.com/2015/05/10/robots_are_coming_for_your_job_amazon_mcdonalds_and_the_next_wave_of_dangerous_capitalist_disruption/

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
76. That's a great article
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 09:17 PM
Aug 2015

And needs an OP by itself. I think a lot of DUers think automation is pipe dream....when it's already here.

 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
77. First, they came for the Big Macs - but I said nothing, for I was not
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 10:50 PM
Aug 2015

2 all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun

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