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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:28 PM Jul 2015

This is not 2001. DU is not the DU of 2001.

We're in the sixth year of a Democratic presidency. We're facing another election This is 2015! Everything has moved on. DU HAS MOVED ON!

Really, folks. We elected Barack Obama. Let's elect another Democrat, OK?

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This is not 2001. DU is not the DU of 2001. (Original Post) MineralMan Jul 2015 OP
Sounds good and non controversial to me. AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #1
That's the plan! arcane1 Jul 2015 #2
Yes, elleng Jul 2015 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #4
Big fan of the Vietnam war, are you? BainsBane Jul 2015 #5
Didn't take long, did it? MADem Jul 2015 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #22
And before that Jim Crow and slavery BainsBane Jul 2015 #24
do you like pizza? irisblue Jul 2015 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #12
it was a threat that you are going to be evicted. Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #26
strong troll smell irisblue Jul 2015 #47
That' freakin' ridiculous... Adrahil Jul 2015 #14
K&R mcar Jul 2015 #6
With all due respect, how the hell would you know? A HERETIC I AM Jul 2015 #8
Curious? Long Drive Jul 2015 #15
You clicked my profile? MineralMan Jul 2015 #19
Your title line suggests you are speaking with familiarity A HERETIC I AM Jul 2015 #41
We all choose our own thread titles, MineralMan Jul 2015 #44
And it was poorly worded, full stop. n/t A HERETIC I AM Jul 2015 #45
In 2001, we had a Republican President. MineralMan Jul 2015 #51
Fair enough. n/t A HERETIC I AM Jul 2015 #54
Electing Democrats is a focus of DU, it will be again when tbe nominee is Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #9
Thanks. I'm counting on that. MineralMan Jul 2015 #31
By "uglies" you mean those that you disagree with. Open-minded liberals welcome debate. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #60
I think you were elsewhere in 2001, and the site you were at does NOT help Democrats get elected. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #10
Bam! Long Drive Jul 2015 #13
Funny how someone with an account even newer than MM replies like this. uppityperson Jul 2015 #23
Bam! Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #32
Your point? I'm not getting it. MineralMan Jul 2015 #16
The point is... tkmorris Jul 2015 #17
This post is so yummy I am going to eat it Long Drive Jul 2015 #18
I keep reading about those days here. MineralMan Jul 2015 #21
And thread closed. ibegurpard Jul 2015 #20
No, actually it's not. There's an election MineralMan Jul 2015 #25
Haha!!!!!!!!!!!!! 840high Jul 2015 #27
{{{SNORT}}} EOM Purveyor Jul 2015 #33
Niiiice one. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #57
This ain't the Summer of Love deutsey Jul 2015 #28
Yeah, we know. TransitJohn Jul 2015 #29
I am, and have been since 2008. MineralMan Jul 2015 #30
Why would you think that that's up to me? TransitJohn Jul 2015 #34
You brought it up, so I asked. MineralMan Jul 2015 #37
Hard to argue against that. K&r Nt NCTraveler Jul 2015 #35
Then why are so many people pushing a candidate straight out of 2001? jeff47 Jul 2015 #36
Which candidate is that? Biden? MineralMan Jul 2015 #39
Which one? zipplewrath Jul 2015 #38
Whoever the Democratic nominee is, of course. MineralMan Jul 2015 #40
But that's what most of the talk is about zipplewrath Jul 2015 #42
See, this is my thread and I'm talking about MineralMan Jul 2015 #43
Many of us do care zipplewrath Jul 2015 #49
That's fine. You should work to win the nomination for MineralMan Jul 2015 #52
I'm sorry zipplewrath Jul 2015 #55
Which man would that be? MineralMan Jul 2015 #56
It sure isn't - and not for the better either DrDan Jul 2015 #46
There's a big difference. In 2001, a Republican was in the White House. MineralMan Jul 2015 #53
I do DrDan Jul 2015 #59
I wasn't at DU in 2001. yallerdawg Jul 2015 #48
Thanks. Working together is how we will win. MineralMan Jul 2015 #50
You Are Correct Of Course... It's Not Even Close... WillyT Jul 2015 #58

Response to MineralMan (Original post)

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
5. Big fan of the Vietnam war, are you?
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:53 PM
Jul 2015

No one is perfect, especially not LBJ. Democrat isn't an ideology. It's not the reflection of yourself in the mirror. It's a political party, period.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. Didn't take long, did it?
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:07 PM
Jul 2015

So much for positivity! Some people just have to crap in the pool, I guess...

Response to BainsBane (Reply #5)

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
24. And before that Jim Crow and slavery
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:30 PM
Jul 2015

So we had what, one Democratic president in all of US history? Or does Jim Crow and slavery not count?

Response to irisblue (Reply #11)

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
8. With all due respect, how the hell would you know?
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:13 PM
Jul 2015

Mineral Man
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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
19. You clicked my profile?
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:46 PM
Jul 2015

Anyone can do that. What does that have to do with my post? That's what I wonder.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
41. Your title line suggests you are speaking with familiarity
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:54 PM
Jul 2015

I, like a few others below, am merely pointing out that you were not a member here in that era.

I'll be here 12 years in a few days and would never consider writing an OP worded that way.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
51. In 2001, we had a Republican President.
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 09:41 AM
Jul 2015

Last edited Fri Jul 31, 2015, 12:48 PM - Edit history (1)

That's the difference. Starting in 2009, we had a Democratic President. I didn't have to be here to know that. That is the primary difference I'm talking about. We're not fighting a Republican President. We have a Democrat in that office. That changes the discussion on DU and everywhere else.

Now, we have an opportunity to continue having a Democrat as President. We also have an opportunity to give that President a Congress that will cooperate with him or her to make progress happen even more quickly.

I joined DU because of President Obama's election. I worked hard to help get him elected. Now, I don't want to lose that advantage. A new Democratic President and a Democratic majority in Congress and in our state legislatures is my goal. I believe it should be the goal of all Democrats. That's why I'm here.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
9. Electing Democrats is a focus of DU, it will be again when tbe nominee is
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:15 PM
Jul 2015

Selected, much of the uglies will go away. It really should not be here now.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
60. By "uglies" you mean those that you disagree with. Open-minded liberals welcome debate.
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 03:22 PM
Aug 2015

But there seems to be too many issues that some are afraid to commit themselves to a side. Like the TPP, fracking, XL Pipeline, indefinite detention, the Patriot Act, Wall Street Gangsters, drone killing, etc. It's easier to purge those that one doesn't agree with.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
23. Funny how someone with an account even newer than MM replies like this.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:11 PM
Jul 2015

Funny or ironic? I'm not really sure since "funny" can have all sorts of different connotations.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
16. Your point? I'm not getting it.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:27 PM
Jul 2015

I didn't hear about DU until much later. What does that have to do with my post? I joined DU in 2008, as anyone can see.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
17. The point is...
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:42 PM
Jul 2015

You probably shouldn't offer any comparison of current DU to DU circa 2001 since you cannot possibly know what you're talking about. Furthermore while you were NOT a member here prior to 2008, you were posting quite regularly somewhere else, which is remarkable primarily because THAT site is populated by people who would rather eat their own face than elect a Democrat. This, in addition to so many other recent postings of yours, makes whatever message you were attempting to convey in your OP ring quite hollow.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
21. I keep reading about those days here.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:51 PM
Jul 2015

I learn from that.Thanks for your reply. It's still 2015, isn't it? There's still an election next year, right? We all want to elect a Democratic President, correct? What is the problem with what I said, then?

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
25. No, actually it's not. There's an election
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:46 PM
Jul 2015

Coming up. Let's elect Democrats by working together, OK? You in?

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
28. This ain't the Summer of Love
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:56 PM
Jul 2015

This ain't the Garden of Eden
There ain't no angels above, either.



What else is this not, I wonder?

Fortunately, we all have you here now to tell us.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
36. Then why are so many people pushing a candidate straight out of 2001?
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:32 PM
Jul 2015

Perhaps we should move past DLC/Third Way/Whatever their marketing department calls them next and actually be like Democrats.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
39. Which candidate is that? Biden?
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:48 PM
Jul 2015

I don't think he's running. Hillary Cinton ran in 2008. Which candidate do you mean?

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
43. See, this is my thread and I'm talking about
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:59 PM
Jul 2015

electing a Democratic President next year. That's what I'm talking about. It's the subject of this thread. I don't care who the nominee is. We need to work together to elect that nominee.

I hope that clarifies things.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
49. Many of us do care
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 09:57 PM
Jul 2015

You're kinda jumpin' the gun. We can get started on your goals once there actually is a nominee. Until then there is some important work to do. Especially for those that would rather not see another nominee like the last few.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
52. That's fine. You should work to win the nomination for
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 09:44 AM
Jul 2015

your favored candidate. I will be very happy support any of the current three leaders after the convention. Any of them will do an excellent job, I'm sure, especially if we can also give them a Democratic majority in at least one house of Congress.

So, if your favored candidate is the nominee, you can count on my wholehearted support. Will that be OK with you?

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
55. I'm sorry
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 08:00 PM
Jul 2015

I'm so sorry that you're so uninvolved in the larger process that you don't care anything about who is nominated by the democratic party. That's how the GOP ended up electing Gov. Scott in Florida. They'd elect a trained monkey if it had an R after it's name. Instead they elected a medicaid criminal.

So I'm sure you'll be satisfied with nominating a man who ends up schtuping the office intern whilst in office.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
56. Which man would that be?
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 08:05 PM
Jul 2015

The only male candidate for the nomination with and real chance is Senator Sanders, and I doubt he's likely to do that. So, I'm puzzled here.

I'd be quite happy to support Clinton, Sanders or O'Malley in the General election. All would do a good job, I'm sure.

Frankly, I couldn't make much sense of your post.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
53. There's a big difference. In 2001, a Republican was in the White House.
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 09:46 AM
Jul 2015

A Democrat is there now. I'd like to see us help make that happen in 2016, too. That's the difference between the DU of 2001 and the DU of 2015. We won. President Obama is in his second term. I think we should continue that trend, don't you?

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
48. I wasn't at DU in 2001.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 09:39 PM
Jul 2015

Doesn't mean I don't know about DU. It's called due diligence. I don't want to waste my time with posers!

Wiki

Democratic Underground, also known as DU, is an online community for U.S. Democrats. Its membership is restricted by policy to those who are supportive of the Democratic Party and Democratic candidates for political office.[2] DU was established on January 20, 2001, the day Republican George W. Bush was inaugurated president.

So, MM is correct. It is not 2001. We are in the 6th year of a Democratic president.

We won! We are the "establishment" now! Stop fighting success! Move on!

Let's work to assure the election of the next Democratic president in 2016!
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