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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy "more of the same" is a recipe for disaster (IMO, of course)
I think we've been steadily brainwashed since the 1970's. The economy went sour, and the Corporations and Wall St. Elites began a successful con job to take advantage of people's fear and discomfort. "Give us Corporations and Wealthy investors what we want, and let us steer the ship, and you will automatically benefit too."
And we the people bought into it. We bought into Orwellian logic like "Outsourcing your job will save your job." and "Cutting your wages will make you more prosperous eventually."
Republicans are most associated with this, and for good reason. But plenty of Democrats aided and abetted it -- and in some cases have been worse than Republicans.
In addition to policy changes like tax deformations, it led to deregulation, which was a Pandora's box of evils. Lost jobs, lower wages, abuse of consumers..
And -- extremely important -- it has led to the reshaping of a diverse economy into an oligarchy dominated by a handful of immensely powerful corporations that took over every sector of the economy.
Because we set aside Anti-Trust laws and Basic Regulation, small, mid-sized and even reasonably big companies were swallowed up into these behemoths. For example, instead of a lot of regional and local banks and a reasonable number of big banks, we now have a handful of massive titanic -- and utterly corrupt -- monster banks. They proved their immorality and power in 2008, but it was a long time coming before that.
It's happened in very industry -- and is still happening as we speak.
Also, the meaning of "centrist" was perverted. Rather than moderation, it became a code for those who enable the Oligarchs and do their bidding and -- in some cases -- join them, using the political system to accomplish the goals of their lord and masters.
In a sane environment, Bernie Sanders and his positions would be considered your basic Democratic Liberal. Instead of being considered the "fringe" his supporters would be mainstream Democrats. They are simply calling for some restoration of balance, so that power and wealth are not all being concentrated in fewer and fewer hands while everyone else is pushed down.
It stinks, and the only way it will end is when enough people say -- in the words of Bernie -- "Enough is Enough!"
Tepid bullshit is simply going to bring us more of the same. And "the same" means things will go ever more rapidly into a Fuedal Hellhole.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)I'm just not sure why anyone on this site could ever think of that as a good thing
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Shit, some of the Republicans of the 60's and 70's make today's "centrist" Democrats seem conservative by comparison.
Hell, I think even Ricky Nixon might be on the side of those who acknowledge the dangers of climate change today.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)"The truth of the matter is that my policies are so mainstream that if I had set the same policies that I had back in the 1980s, I would be considered a moderate Republican,"
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/272957-obama-says-his-economic-policies-so-mainstream-hed-be-seen-as-moderate-republican-in-1980s
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)issues shows and has for a long time.
Yes, HE probably would have been considered a moderate Republican then. But why would any Democrat want to be compared to any kind of Republican? I guess 'moderate' back then meant 'Reagan'?
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)mainstream liberal.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Nothing wrong with being a socialist. But in a world where even the term "liberal" became verboten, that was waving a red flag that skewed people's views of him.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Last edited Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:24 PM - Edit history (1)
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)some of my friends who are republicans but don't self-identify as republicans, despise Trump and are really looking at Bernie seriously.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)And once you speak past the buzz-words and slogans, they will realize they were quite progressive all along.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)The propaganda included convincing average -- or struggling -- people that some day they might be rich, so it was in their own best interests to support policies and economic behavior that only benefit the wealthy.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)You WOULD be rich if it wasn't for those parasitic:
Welfare queens
Crack addicts
Gang members
Illegal aliens
Athiests
Intellectual elites
Scientists
Homosexuals
Feminists
You get the picture
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)And ONLY ONE candidate opposes the status quo.