Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 12:04 AM Aug 2015

The Fundy Nuts Getting More Hysterical & Threatening Over Planned Parenthood.

If you are an employee at Planned Parenthood it may be wise to invest in helmet and flak jacket. We are at a time when the situation could become more incendiary. When the RW demands even a government shut down over defunding Planned Parenthood what will they do if the organization is NOT defunded. There is a lot of hot anger coming from the right on this matter.

It appears that the RW is now on a virtual war footing over reproductive rights. They will accept nothing but a complete shutdown of Planned Parenthood based on the mood of their constituents. They are making it clear that they intend to stop women pursuing their reproductive rights. by any means necessary. When a GOP candidate says he will use the military or FBI on this issue we have crossed the Rubicon in some way. And his rhetoric encourages the most extreme elements of anti reproductive rights activists. Hacking computer systems and putting out the names and addresses of Planned Parenthood employees and like organizations puts these people in a clear and present danger.

Even though the videos were severely edited and virtually completely untrue the facts do not matter. As the campaign of 2016 continues we can expect more and more vitriolic rhetoric from the anti choicers. In the end the goal is to remove all reproductive health care for women. And in particular poorer women are targets.

The question is how are we going to rebuff these extremists?

20 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
The Fundy Nuts Getting More Hysterical & Threatening Over Planned Parenthood. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Aug 2015 OP
Simple Dwayne Hicks Aug 2015 #1
there is nothing simple about it Skittles Aug 2015 #2
Yes, a veto will totally stop the next Eric Rudolph. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #6
OK, will do...then we can move on to expose and criminally charge the creators of this vicious propaganda manufactured by and for the GOP. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #10
How much more threatening do they have to get than murdering doctors, maiming nurses, & stalking... Hekate Aug 2015 #3
Seems that men will stop at nothing to control women's bodies. The War on Women continues underahedgerow Aug 2015 #4
The War on Women is for real! Kath1 Aug 2015 #7
Bernie Sanders has taken on this issue many times. PADemD Aug 2015 #8
I respect him for that. Kath1 Aug 2015 #9
Bernie seems totally unaware the PP distorted videos are pure propaganda by a group with a Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #11
Let me preface this by saying I was raised Catholic, Kath1 Aug 2015 #5
and they are using the same type of tactics that brought down ACORN. B Calm Aug 2015 #12
Exactly, precisely. This is all one huge heavily co-ordinated con and smear and it must be exposed exactly for what is. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #13
Yes they are. Kath1 Aug 2015 #14
And here is the research proving the distorted videos, by distorted anti-abortion producers, is all a propaganda ploy: Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #15
Excellent article, I love reading the replies. The exchange about this country being a republic B Calm Aug 2015 #16
Thank you. Kath1 Aug 2015 #18
Because we have not stopped them so far. DirkGently Aug 2015 #17
Religuous insanity and greed hifiguy Aug 2015 #19
If Republicans want to have a full-blown war over it Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2015 #20

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
10. OK, will do...then we can move on to expose and criminally charge the creators of this vicious propaganda manufactured by and for the GOP.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 09:10 AM
Aug 2015

Hekate

(90,828 posts)
3. How much more threatening do they have to get than murdering doctors, maiming nurses, & stalking...
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 12:32 AM
Aug 2015

....the schoolchildren of PP employees?

It has been a bloody war (and I mean bloody) for at least 30 years. The war has its ebbs and flows, but it never ceases. No one in Law or Government is willing to call it what it is: domestic terrorism against women via women's health care access.

It's not recent. Only the current means is new.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
4. Seems that men will stop at nothing to control women's bodies. The War on Women continues
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 12:39 AM
Aug 2015

as usual. They'll stop at nothing....

I think that we can look forward to a big statement from the Obama administration and Mrs. Clinton in the coming weeks. Mrs. Clinton would be extremely wise to take a huge stand on this with backing from the President. It would win her the votes of every sane female voter in the USA.

I'd love to see what trumpie and Jeb! come up with. They'll remain silent however, which could well be their undoing.

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
8. Bernie Sanders has taken on this issue many times.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 03:10 AM
Aug 2015

A woman's reproductive rights has been part of his stump speech from the beginning.

Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Bernie_Sanders.htm

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
11. Bernie seems totally unaware the PP distorted videos are pure propaganda by a group with a
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 09:12 AM
Aug 2015

history of violent extremism against legal abortion.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
5. Let me preface this by saying I was raised Catholic,
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 01:10 AM
Aug 2015

I am now very pro-choice.

We stay rational, reasonable and committed. We have science and medical research on our side.

It is the most personal, private and important decision a woman may ever make in her life. It should be between her health care providers and her herself. Everyone else should stay out of it.

If a woman has no control of her own body, what freedom does she really have? None,

Outlawing abortions won't end abortions, they will just make them dangerous and unsafe.

Pro-lifers tend to care for the fetus until it comes to term, then mom is on her own.



Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
13. Exactly, precisely. This is all one huge heavily co-ordinated con and smear and it must be exposed exactly for what is.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 09:29 AM
Aug 2015

Has America become totally unable to separate political propaganda from truth or has it just given up and decided to simply equate the truth and lies. It is hard work sometimes to expose lies, much easier to believe the lies than see the truth?

A lie travels half way around the world before truth gets it's pants on...what an excellent saying.........lot of lazy and not paying attention folks would rather just keep the pants off and go back to sleep than go chasing lies.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
14. Yes they are.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 09:56 AM
Aug 2015


They'll get more opposition on this. Most people don't even know about ACORN. Everyone knows about pregnancy.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
16. Excellent article, I love reading the replies. The exchange about this country being a republic
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 10:41 AM
Aug 2015

is good. I have always said it's a democratic republic.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
17. Because we have not stopped them so far.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 11:02 AM
Aug 2015

We've let all the mythmaking go on and on and on. First we respected their "thinking" about late-term, life-saving procedures being "partial birth." Then inching back the timeline, again and again, then pseudo-science about fetal pain. Counseling, ultrasounds, waiting periods. Now it's O'Keefe style fake videos about "selling baby parts."

We were never talking to thoughtful, reasoning people to with. Once we accepted that there might be some times when a private medical procedure could be "murder," we gave free rein to the absolute suspension of reality we see before us. They're already stalking and killing people armed with their dishonest rationale. It's already possible to be elected to national public office on a "no exceptions" platform. It's really only a small stretch to now claim that embryonic tissue needed for critical research is akin to selling corpses.

Maybe next all pregnant women will be collared and tracked, so they can be punished criminally for eating the wrong cereal or taking too many aspirin. There really is no limit once you give crazy people the right to dictate other people's lives and health.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
19. Religuous insanity and greed
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 08:52 PM
Aug 2015

will destroy this country, and quite possibly humankind and the planet as well.

Reason will NOT work on either.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,438 posts)
20. If Republicans want to have a full-blown war over it
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 09:00 PM
Aug 2015

Let it be the (political) battlefield they choose to die on. Democrats will very likely block it in the Senate and in the odd event that it goes to President Obama, it will be vetoed and if it leads to a government shutdown there is little doubt in my mind that the Republicans will be the ones whom are viewed as being in the wrong here. How do we rebuff them? I have no idea. The majority of public opinion is on our side. The Republicans want to fight for the side of the extremists? Not anything we can really do about it. There are likely right-wing anti-choicers whom believe that PP not only sells "baby parts" but also eats them as well. There is no rational discourse from such people. We just have to ensure that people who provide services are adequately protected from the extremists, a not too easy task given that courts have weakened protection zones around clinics

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»The Fundy Nuts Getting Mo...