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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 08:56 AM Aug 2015

When Will BLM Start Going After RW, GOP & Conservatives? Are They Too Chicken?

BLM attacks on Democrats, progressives & Bernie are misguided. It is not the these groups that are taking away their voting rights and their civil rights. And attacking their potential allies plays into the GOP meme that Obama and the Dems are the dividers and the racists.

BLM's twisted strategy is more likely to get GOPPERS elected if then continue to disrupt Bernie and others. The GOP is more than happy to see BLM go after Dems. It legitimizes their meme.

Besides Democrats cannot do much until they get control of Congress again. Right now Democrats are pretty much powerless to move any civil rights agenda forward.

The BLM needs to go after the GOP and its allies. Of course the risk is that you will be arrested, beaten and maybe even shot for all we know. If the BLM even shows its face within a mile of any GOPPER they will be surrounded by SWAT teams most likely.

Attacking Bernie whose has a good civil rights record over all just helps the GOP who really want to strip blacks and minorities of ALL political power.

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When Will BLM Start Going After RW, GOP & Conservatives? Are They Too Chicken? (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Aug 2015 OP
H wont pay them unless they focus on Bernie? nt HFRN Aug 2015 #1
Harassing Bernie Will NOT Help Hillary. It Will Hurt All Dems In The Long Run. TheMastersNemesis Aug 2015 #5
Agree with most of your assessment. Skidmore Aug 2015 #15
When HRC gets the nomination. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #2
I want to know why they do not go after Obama. He is the one with the power Tipperary Aug 2015 #3
Three black people in charge of the Justice system in the last 7 years Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 #10
Most of the relevant justice system operates at the local level jberryhill Aug 2015 #11
The justice department has jumped into to many local affairs in history Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 #12
Yeah, that's all remedial, not proactive jberryhill Aug 2015 #14
You didn't answer my questions Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 #16
I agree with you. I find it harmful that BLM is now going after our candidates while ignoring Tipperary Aug 2015 #32
He's one black guy. I know black folks have to work hard or even harder nc4bo Aug 2015 #25
I agree with everything you said. But so are these candidates. Just one person. President Obama Tipperary Aug 2015 #33
How about because it's stupid & a waste of time to deal giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 #7
They don't have shit to do with this OP, nice try. giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #8
Answered in the wrong place.. sorry n/t Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 #9
will it help dems for blm to go after gop? 6chars Aug 2015 #6
Will it help BLM to go after the candidate most willing to work with them? GoneFishin Aug 2015 #17
you can't say they've had no impact 6chars Aug 2015 #20
You are correct. But you also are re-enforcing my point. They should be targeting all candidates, GoneFishin Aug 2015 #21
Damn straight. John Poet Aug 2015 #29
Because BLM has something in common with the RW Shankapotomus Aug 2015 #13
Yawn. ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #18
As if Walker, Bush, or anyone else in the clown car would give a shit for what they have to say. NuclearDem Aug 2015 #19
Or even Hillary? I ask...get NO answers. Triana Aug 2015 #22
still waiting for dem party to go after RW, GOP & Conservatives KG Aug 2015 #23
no, the republicans and the turd way dems have convinced them that liberals are the Doctor_J Aug 2015 #24
If the people who are supposed to be sympathetic to your cause won't listen, GitRDun Aug 2015 #26
This ^ PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #27
If They Were Afraid I Would Not Blame Them, But Picking On An Ally Is Counter Productive. TheMastersNemesis Aug 2015 #31
An ally assimilates you into their campaign GitRDun Aug 2015 #34
They probably know they would never make it to the stage. Security would drag them out. RKP5637 Aug 2015 #28
At a GOP event, they'd get arrested and/or shot tblue Aug 2015 #30
Yes, going after Bernie rusty fender Aug 2015 #35
 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
5. Harassing Bernie Will NOT Help Hillary. It Will Hurt All Dems In The Long Run.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 09:05 AM
Aug 2015

BLM's actions could dampen the black vote and help the GOP. The GOP is already out their 24/7 saying the Democrats are the real racists holding blacks and minorities back. The domestic programs are a FORM of slavery to keep minorities down. And on the other side the GOP is telling whites that the Democrats are giving their tax money to black, hispanics, illegals, takers et al. That Dems are turning the government over to blacks.

Even though what the GOP and allies are putting out are lies a lot of whites and particularly the churches believe them. In this twisted political atmosphere it looks like chaos. There is no debate on the real issues.

BLM is giving ammunition to the enemy by its tactics. The GOP is already labeling Bernie as a communist in some ways. Now the BLM will help them label him a white supremacist. And the real white supremacists will go unnoticed.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
15. Agree with most of your assessment.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 10:14 AM
Aug 2015

Although I will add that my understanding of events is that the people in the audience were being labelled as racist. I do not believe that these to individuals were acting at anyone else behest but on their own agenda. BLM is a young movement made up of young people, some of whom reject the counsel of older folks. I think everyone needs to step back and start figuring out how to work together or we are all going to lose what little that hasn't been lost to the Rs. Period.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
10. Three black people in charge of the Justice system in the last 7 years
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 09:34 AM
Aug 2015


Obama, Holder and Lynch......... that was the point that in this forest of trees

that has an elephant which no one is talking about. Screw the GOP.


They made some small gains for sure but have cow toed to the 1% for the most part.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
11. Most of the relevant justice system operates at the local level
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 09:49 AM
Aug 2015

There are a lot more people overseeing the thousands of local police departments than Holder and Obama.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
12. The justice department has jumped into to many local affairs in history
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 09:54 AM
Aug 2015

When did this one? And what was the outcome?

Should I go back to Brown vs the board of education and then move on to Mississippi burning? How about Rodney King?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
14. Yeah, that's all remedial, not proactive
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 10:12 AM
Aug 2015

I don't want the U.S. DoJ to spend the next four years investigating every police shooting of a black person.

I want the police to stop shooting them.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
16. You didn't answer my questions
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 10:17 AM
Aug 2015

Ok how has justice under obama done shit and got change and justice like
my history lessons?

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
32. I agree with you. I find it harmful that BLM is now going after our candidates while ignoring
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:18 PM
Aug 2015

the fact that Obama is the president and has been for 8 years. These protests make the Democratic party look stupid and weak. I have no words for those two women, who were not professional in their approach to this. They were nasty and shrill and I think they looked ridiculous. They turned the Seattle crowd against them and god only knows how many voters were turned off by that nonsense. I see people here saying the women may work for Hillary. I am a supporter of neither candidate yet, but I do not believe Hillary would stoop to that level. She is probably laughing about it however, but it is in no way good for our party. I simply do not believe the Clintons would go that low. If they wanted to make some similar point, they would find actors who were much more professional and not use two silly women who probably made everyone laugh at them. As a female, I was embarrassed watching that spectacle.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
25. He's one black guy. I know black folks have to work hard or even harder
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 11:01 AM
Aug 2015

Than white folks to earn any props (if your black you'll immediately recognize the blacks have to over excel in anything they do to even hope they'll be taken seriously thing) but iS he supposed to do here?

He's 1 black guy in a hostile sea of white waves bogged down by centuries of historical racial oppression.

He ain't Superman with superhuman powers although I wish he was.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
33. I agree with everything you said. But so are these candidates. Just one person. President Obama
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:43 PM
Aug 2015

IS the president. Neither (or none) of the candidates are president. So why do they not bring their protest to the man in power? That is my question.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
4. How about because it's stupid & a waste of time to deal
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 09:04 AM
Aug 2015

with those dumb, racist, card carrying members of the klan, inbred fucks? ALL of the GOP had made it painfully clear that they don't give a shit about Black Lives so why would we even attempt to talk to them?

Response to giftedgirl77 (Reply #4)

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
21. You are correct. But you also are re-enforcing my point. They should be targeting all candidates,
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 10:41 AM
Aug 2015

not silencing their most supportive ally.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
13. Because BLM has something in common with the RW
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 09:55 AM
Aug 2015

They both just want to have somebody to hurt and put down.

And who's going to be easier prey to BLM? Who's going to be an easier win? The unrepentant, unapologetic RW or a liberal?

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
22. Or even Hillary? I ask...get NO answers.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 10:51 AM
Aug 2015

I find that alone quite interesting.

They protest NO ONE else but Sanders.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
24. no, the republicans and the turd way dems have convinced them that liberals are the
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 11:00 AM
Aug 2015

real racists. They have a lot in common with Fox nation in that respect

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
26. If the people who are supposed to be sympathetic to your cause won't listen,
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 11:17 AM
Aug 2015

why would you risk life and limb on their behalf?

Chicken? Really? The people who fought through tear gas, militarized police to be heard are chicken?

Get some perspective...

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
31. If They Were Afraid I Would Not Blame Them, But Picking On An Ally Is Counter Productive.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:08 PM
Aug 2015

I know well that black have endured abuse from police while demonstrating. Openly going after GOP or RW on their venue would be very difficult. Unless it were a large number of people GOP security would be brutal. The true face of the GOP would be shown if BLM showed up on one of their candidates. And the GOP would call them terrorists and paint the Dems as being the racists and our MSM would cooperate and double down.

I understand and support what the BLM wants, but attacking Dems plays into GOP strategy. I know the Democratic candidate could do more. The problem as I see it is that the GOP with the MSM are attacking the Dems as racists. They are trying to split blacks and minorities and they are falsely branding themselves as the TRUE civil rights advocates.
GOP/RW claim is sadly a lot of people might believe it.

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
34. An ally assimilates you into their campaign
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:34 PM
Aug 2015

Bernie has, for whatever reason, failed in this regard.

What President Obama put together is not so easy to do.

The sooner the Sanders campaign gets on this challenge, the better chance they'll have to get the nomination.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
28. They probably know they would never make it to the stage. Security would drag them out.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 11:35 AM
Aug 2015

And who knows what the local cops might do with/to them if racist and RW republicans.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
30. At a GOP event, they'd get arrested and/or shot
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 11:50 AM
Aug 2015

Members of a GOPer crowd have no tolerance for black folk disrupting anything. Lots of them are concealed carriers, you'd have to assume. Not saying they'd necessarily shoot anybody, but the threat is always there nonetheless. I think most people understand you could never, ever, EVER successfully pull something like that before a rightwing group. The disrupters will never go there.

You don't pick on someone who might seriously hurt you unless you have extraordinary courage and are willing to die.

They choose Bernie's events because they are low-hanging fruit, vulnerable, open, not a threat. It's not fair at all to Bernie and his supporters, but that's why.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
35. Yes, going after Bernie
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 06:20 PM
Aug 2015

proves that they are cowardly. It takes real bravery to protest the true racists.

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