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Homme de Plume: What I Learned Sending My Novel Out Under a Male Name
http://jezebel.com/homme-de-plume-what-i-learned-sending-my-novel-out-und-1720637627
The plan made me feel dishonest and creepy, so it took me a long time to send my novel out under a mans name. But each time I read a study about unconscious bias, I got a little closer to trying it.
I set up a new e-mail address under a namelets say it was George Leyer, though it wasntand left it empty. Weeks went by without word from the agents who had my work. I read another study about how people rate job applicants they believe are female and how much better they like those they believe are male.
(snio)
I sent the six queries I had planned to send that day. Within 24 hours George had five responsesthree manuscript requests and two warm rejections praising his exciting project. For contrast, under my own name, the same letter and pages sent 50 times had netted me a total of two manuscript requests. The responses gave me a little frisson of delight at being called Mr. and then I got mad. Three manuscript requests on a Saturday, not even during business hours! The judgments about my work that had seemed as solid as the walls of my house had turned out to be meaningless. My novel wasnt the problem, it was meCatherine.
I wanted to know more of how the Georges of the world live, so I sent more. Total data: George sent out 50 queries, and had his manuscript requested 17 times. He is eight and a half times better than me at writing the same book. Fully a third of the agents who saw his query wanted to see more, where my numbers never did shift from one in 25.
(more at link)
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)I'm a writer, as is my wife. I've seen the bias, and have seen it overcome in the end. Both of us have been successful with our work, which is 100% non-fiction. Neither of us has had much luck with fiction, although I've had a few short stories published.
A very good post. Thanks.
mnhtnbb
(31,405 posts)Made me look up J K Rowling. Turns out her publishers asked her to use initials--
because they thought her target audience would be young boys--and having a woman
author wouldn't help to sell the books.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Do men choose books by gender? Don't think i've ever taken that into consideration.
Article was super interesting and a bit disheartening. i have a name that could be for a boy or a girl. When accepted to graduate school my acceptance letter was addressed to Mr. My Name. Was very nervous about traveling across country for my first day. Happened twice when being called in for job interviews, too. Can't help wondering now how many opportunities were denied me based on gender.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)I can only speak of my personal experience which is that I was a voracious reader of Sci-Fi starting from the first Robert Heinlein book my dad gave me when I was in 5th grade. I had a public library card and I wore it out. There are some absolute powerhouses in the field of female Sci-Fi authors. If I look back honestly at my younger self I am pretty sure I skipped female authors until I had nothing else to read. To my detriment of course.
Thankfully I got over that and I don't think I was even consciously avoiding female authors - I would just go to the library and start whatever series caught my eye. I often checked out 5~10 books at a time and since this was in the days before internet I had no real way to get reviews of anything. I picked based on title or cover art or maybe a friend's recommendation.
I have no idea if I was a typical 11 year old boy - from about that point on is when my mother got remarried and religious so I didn't have a lot of social contact outside of church. But I was always allowed to read and was encouraged to go to the library (I could get to it on my bike easily). A boy left alone with little guidance but armed with a library card and a thirst for anything to escape into but too dumb to know yet that you can't judge a book by its' cover. Or author.
CrispyQ
(36,527 posts)an application for a green American Express card addressed to Ms. CrispyQ & an application for a gold American Express card addressed to Mr. CrispyQ.
CrispyQ
(36,527 posts)by Robert Galbraith. I'd never heard of him & I thought, "Five copies of a book by someone I've never heard of?" I read the jacket & discovered Galbraith is actually J K Rowling. The book was just okay.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Thanks for the link.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)And in too many other professions. I'm old enough to remember having serious conversations with men about women's intelligence compared to men's.
The idea was/is that men are superior because of their hormones and women are inferior because of theirs.
The remark made by Trump regarding Megan Kelly was common back then.
sigh... the more things change the more they stay the same...
progressoid
(49,999 posts)Three men, including the owner, manager, me and one woman in marketing. The owner of the establishment had never met me before. I was the only one not on his payroll but he talked to me rather than to the female marketer. She was in charge of the whole campaign. He never even made eye contact with her.
It was sickening.
gave up seeking fame and fortune in the art world knowing that a woman in her 50's had a snowballs chance. even tho i stand by the work i did, and it was new and groundbreaking in an area (clay) where there is little new under the sun.
the fact that my paintings were about motherhood and my life didnt help.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Once had a supervisor come to my desk late one evening during crunch time and tell me he owed me an apology. I asked why. He said he didn't hire me at first because I was a girl and he figured I had help with my reel. (I was hired two weeks after several of my male friends and former coworkers.) He said he was wrong, I was a strong employee and he'd reconsidered his opinion of female animators as a result. I was floored. Very glad that my male friends changed his mind and gave me that chance. Wonder how many talented women don't get that chance though?
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Not all men get a chance either though. I've seen some breathtaking talent in young men passed over too.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Men are not immune to bias sadly.
Orrex
(63,225 posts)Hekate
(90,834 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Feminism is still needed so badly today!
Definitely need Feminism and Affirmative Action.
CrispyQ
(36,527 posts)Loved this part:
Mind if I cross post this in the Writing forum?