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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWoman freely bleeds running London Marathon without tampon
I know, I know, this sounds like a Lounge post , but read on.
http://blog.sfgate.com/sfmoms/2015/08/10/woman-freely-bleeds-running-london-marathon-without-tampon/
Running 26.2 miles with a wad of cotton material wedged between my legs just seemed so absurd, Gandhi wrote on Medium. Plus they say chaffing is a real thing.
On August 7, she ran with blood freely flowing down her legs and used her story to raise awareness about women who dont have access to feminine products and to encourage women to not be ashamed of their periods.
If theres one person society cant eff with, its a marathon runner, Gandhi shared on Medium. You cant tell a marathoner to clean themselves up, or to prioritize the comfort of others. On the marathon course, I could choose whether or not I wanted to participate in this norm of shaming.
Wounded Bear
(58,704 posts)underahedgerow
(1,232 posts)percussionist and has done a lot of amazing things.
She interesting things to say. I like her! I think she might do some great things.
http://kirangandhi.com/
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)-K-A, Yale '85
qwlauren35
(6,150 posts)the wetness would have been uncomfortable, but when I think about it, she didn't have a lot of options. Those things don't last 14 hours, especially if she had a heavy flow.
I think I might have worn a mini skirt and gone commando. Or just worn SOMETHING and dealt with the leaking.
No matter how you spin it, the woman must have been uncomfortable, because she would have soaked her clothes.
She was a very brave and determined woman. Makes me wonder how other women cope with the situation.
Glorfindel
(9,733 posts)To quote Gloria Steinem:
"So what would happen if suddenly, magically, men could menstruate and women could not?
Clearly, menstruation would become an enviable, worthy, masculine event:
Men would brag about how long and how much.
Young boys would talk about it as the envied beginning of manhood. Gifts, religious ceremonies, family dinners, and stag parties would mark the day.
To prevent monthly work loss among the powerful, Congress would fund a National Institute of Dysmenorrhea. Doctors would research little about heart attacks, from which men would be hormonally protected, but everything about cramps.
Sanitary supplies would be federally funded and free. Of course, some men would still pay for the prestige of such commercial brands as Paul Newman Tampons, Muhammad Ali's Rope-a-Dope Pads, John Wayne Maxi Pads, and Joe Namath Jock Shields- "For Those Light Bachelor Days."
Statistical surveys would show that men did better in sports and won more Olympic medals during their periods.
Generals, right-wing politicians, and religious fundamentalists would cite menstruation ("men-struation" as proof that only men could serve God and country in combat ("You have to give blood to take blood" , occupy high political office ("Can women be properly fierce without a monthly cycle governed by the planet Mars?" , be priests, ministers, God Himself ("He gave this blood for our sins" , or rabbis ("Without a monthly purge of impurities, women are unclean" .
Male liberals and radicals, however, would insist that women are equal, just different; and that any woman could join their ranks if only she were willing to recognize the primacy of menstrual rights ("Everything else is a single issue" or self-inflict a major wound every month ("You must give blood for the revolution" .
Street guys would invent slang ("He's a three-pad man" and "give fives" on the corner with some exchenge like, "Man you lookin' good!"
"Yeah, man, I'm on the rag!"
TV shows would treat the subject openly. (Happy Days: Richie and Potsie try to convince Fonzie that he is still "The Fonz," though he has missed two periods in a row. Hill Street Blues: The whole precinct hits the same cycle.) So would newspapers. (Summer Shark Scare Threatens Menstruating Men. Judge Cites Monthlies In Pardoning Rapist.) And so would movies. (Newman and Redford in Blood Brothers!)
Men would convince women that sex was more pleasurable at "that time of the month." Lesbians would be said to fear blood and therefore life itself, though all they needed was a good menstruating man.
Medical schools would limit women's entry ("they might faint at the sight of blood" .
Of course, intellectuals would offer the most moral and logical arguements. Without the biological gift for measuring the cycles of the moon and planets, how could a woman master any discipline that demanded a sense of time, space, mathematics-- or the ability to measure anything at all? In philosophy and religion, how could women compensate for being disconnected from the rhythm of the universe? Or for their lack of symbolic death and resurrection every month?
Menopause would be celebrated as a positive event, the symbol that men had accumulated enough years of cyclical wisdom to need no more.
Liberal males in every field would try to be kind. The fact that "these people" have no gift for measuring life, the liberals would explain, should be punishment enough.
And how would women be trained to react? One can imagine right-wing women agreeing to all these arguements with a staunch and smiling masochism. ("The ERA would force housewives to wound themselves every month": Phyllis Schlafly)
In short, we would discover, as we should already, that logic is in the eye of the logician. (For instance, here's an idea for theorists and logicians: if women are supposed to be less rational and more emotional at the beginning of our menstrual cycle when the female hormone is at its lowest level, then why isn't it logical to say that, in those few days, women behave the most like the way men behave all month long? I leave further improvisation up to you.)
The truth is that, if men could menstruate, the power justifications would go on and on.
If we let them."
qwlauren35
(6,150 posts)I'm just waiting to see how fast this thread sinks.
Any bets? I say a half hour. It was posted at 1:22pm.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Pacific Daylight Time.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)LOVE IT! Out loud laughter here.
And this IS what would happen.
qwlauren35
(6,150 posts)There's very little difference between this woman running with a soaked pad and with no pad. Clearly she didn't know about 24 hour tampons, but it may be that in her culture, women don't wear them. So, she didn't see much in the way of options, and she chose to go "commando" and let her garments catch the blood. This is very different from someone bleeding from exposed tissue, and comparable to the nipple bleeding.
This has educated me about the reality of marathons. Where does the pee go? Don't think about it. Where does the poo go? Don't think about it. Where does the menses go? Don't think about it.
These people want to win the race, or place in the race, or just get to the end of the race, ***without stopping***.
So don't check their pants. It might gross you out.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)"In short, we would discover, as we should already, that logic is in the eye of the logician. (For instance, here's an idea for theorists and logicians: if women are supposed to be less rational and more emotional at the beginning of our menstrual cycle when the female hormone is at its lowest level, then why isn't it logical to say that, in those few days, women behave the most like the way men behave all month long? I leave further improvisation up to you.)"
loved this part.
btw a cis-male.
Glorfindel
(9,733 posts)beergood
(470 posts)prayin4rain
(2,065 posts)Deadshot
(384 posts)This is not cool at all.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Daemonaquila
(1,712 posts)This is so silly. You must never have run an obstacle or endurance race. We're covered in sweat, OFTEN in blood from some gash or other if it's a good obstacle race (and *gasp* we all wind up in the same mud or water or what have you... TOGETHER... with lots of people in that same shape), or even barf or poop or urine. None of these things are a big deal. We have to stop being so terrified of this stuff as a society. I can think of many, many worse things that people are exposed to pretty routinely, and they don't even think about it. But they've been told that blood on someone is THE WORST OMG, and freak out.
Deadshot
(384 posts)I don't want to get Hepatitis, HIV, or any other blood-borne illness because someone wanted to be a political warrior.
BTW, you can't contract any of those things through sweat.
kcr
(15,320 posts)Because you realize there are other ways that blood happens in sports? Right? If the notion that you might come in contact with blood freaks you out that much.
Deadshot
(384 posts)She ran for 26.5 miles, on purpose, with blood flowing down her leg.
Again, your argument makes no sense.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)REP
(21,691 posts)It's common, and not unheard of for a runner to finish with loaded tights.
demmiblue
(36,885 posts)Deadshot
(384 posts)On August 7, she ran with blood freely flowing down her legs
Beaverhausen
(24,472 posts)Deadshot
(384 posts)On August 7, she ran with blood freely flowing down her legs
Third paragraph in the block quote in the excerpt in the OP.
Beaverhausen
(24,472 posts)Deadshot
(384 posts)Beaverhausen
(24,472 posts)seriously, it will take you 5 seconds to see that no blood went any farther than her crotch.
Deadshot
(384 posts)Yes. I did read the article. The question is: did you?
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,364 posts)By the end of the race, she maybe lost an ounce of blood, none of it "flowing down her legs", none of it left on the pavement (the horror).
Probably less "precious bodily fluids" than some of the other runners let loose during their run.
Beaverhausen
(24,472 posts)Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Absorbent material. So yes, it ran out of her body as is normal but instead of being absorbed by a sanitary pad it was absorbed by her clothing. Most adult women have had that happen at least once by accident.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)Why do you refuse to look at the picture?
elias49
(4,259 posts)Let it go!
Beaverhausen
(24,472 posts)are you talking to me?
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,364 posts)... as well as the sweat and tears of the colliding athletes.
I'm not sure how the blood from a marathoner would get on anyone else. Unless it was a three-legged race, then her partner would be in danger.
kcr
(15,320 posts)Making the blood instantly disappear the second the wound happens. For example, a woman in the World Cup this year played with blood dripping down her face in rivlets. She was put back into the game in this condition. There is a chance you will come into contact with it. So it is your argument that makes no sense.
See, let's delve into the "problem" a bit more. Blood on a male rugby player's face? Cleaning that up would be sissy. After all, "Give blood, play rugby." Blood on a male hockey or football player's jersey? All part of the game. Blood on a boxer? Expected, to be mopped up between rounds to avoid vision problems, choking, etc.
Oh, but this is VAG blood. The HORROR!!!!
underahedgerow
(1,232 posts)or something? It's more like a couple of teaspoons at its best, 3 or 4 tablespoons when it's rough -- as an average. Her period blood was just in her crotch fercryinoutloud, not puddling in her shoe.
Geez, it's not a big deal.
(Please note I stated on average, not the exceptions, no need to share all the stories please!)
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)But let's just say that when I was done with that monthly horror show I celebrated.
What this woman did was not a big deal in any way.
She knew her body and knew what to expect.
There is no way I could have done this.
Of course, there is also no way I am capable of running a marathon so, touche'.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)horrible truth about, (insert suspenseful music here) a woman's period. Men who are not such wimps about it and actually learn about it can handle the truth. The others, I'm not so sure. They seem to have all kinds of crazy notions.
Although, I admit, this guy's ignorance on the topic is at least admirable. He states what I have always begrudged (the cost) about having to have a period:
http://www.dumpaday.com/funny-pictures/women-walking-their-men-through-buying-tampons-via-text-messages-4-pics/
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)In bike racing, this is normal:
Cyclists get severe bloody injuries and keep going.
Deadshot
(384 posts)The woman chose to let her blood go all over the place because she didn't want to be uncomfortable.
Why can't people see the difference?
City Lights
(25,171 posts)Why can't you understand that? People all over this thread are pointing it out to you, and you refuse to see it. Do you truly not understand, or are you purposefully being difficult?
Just for argument's sake...what do you think she should have done had she gotten her period DURING the race rather than BEFORE? Should she have dropped out so as not to offend you?
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Get a clue.
Deadshot
(384 posts)Why can't you see that?
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PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Deadshot
(384 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Daemonaquila
(1,712 posts)You've said the same thing several times about "purposefully bleeding." That sounds more like trolling than trying to make a point. Blood is blood. Athletic injuries mean blood. But so does a period. It doesn't matter why. If it was a huge "health hazard," people would be doing something about it in every sport. But it isn't, and they're not. This is about your personal squeamishness, and that has no place in a discussion about whether she was acting appropriately. It's no different than shaming her because she chose not to shave, she's wearing those tight little running pants while weighing 185, or she puked a little on herself and didn't decide to give up the race.
Deadshot
(384 posts)I don't bleed in public on purpose because I don't want to put people in unnecessary risk.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)gotta be one in every thread. intentional bleeding!!!
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)We do it *just* to make you squeamish.
We bleed in public all the time. You just don't always know when we are doing it. Most of the time, we deal with the leaks and other issues once we get home, and yes, leaks do happen, to most women.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The blood doesn't care.
trueblue2007
(17,237 posts)Just shut up will you. You have no idea what you are talking about. We (women) don't bleed cups, pints, gallons of blood when we have our period. YOU CAN'T WIN THIS ARGUMENT SO JUST STIFLE YOURSELF PLEASE.
(Archie Bunker remark lolol)
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Also...
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Most people have a little more than one gallon of blood in their entire body. So if you bleed gallons -- plural -- you are, well, either dead or some sort of new super-human freak of nature.
pnwmom
(108,991 posts)Do you have any idea how much menstrual blood is shed over the whole course of a typical menstrual period, over the course of several days?
The average over a cycle is between 4 to 12 teaspoons. That means, up to 4 tablespoons over several days.
That means, between a teaspoon and a tablespoon per day, in a 4 day cycle.
For most women, it looks (and feels) worse than it is. Are you still afraid of all that blood?
http://www.webmd.com/women/guide/menstrual-blood-problems-clots-color-and-thickness
840high
(17,196 posts)Syzygy321
(583 posts)You would have to have sex with her on the marathon course, or at minimum grab at her bloody clothes with your hands while you had an open wound.
And even if you did that
and if she had a bloodborne virus
and if she were untreated,
it's still a real long shot.
Still: don't do that! Are you nuts?
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)illness watching someone run a marathon either.
pnwmom
(108,991 posts)Not that there's any realistic chance she has it.
brewens
(13,620 posts)on them and probably little tiny droplets in their eyes. You only need to see a few quality pics of what happens when someone lands a good blow and the light is right. You see the explosion of tiny droplets of sweat flying everywhere! It's worse than a sneeze and someone always gets cut or is bleeding from the nose.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)And if they are not, they should be.
brewens
(13,620 posts)Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)I don't recall anyone on or off the course worrying about that health hazard. Clearly, menstrual blood flowing into full length running tights is much more dangerous.
Skittles
(153,192 posts)Quackers
(2,256 posts)Just look up bleeding nipples.
Warpy
(111,338 posts)It soaked into her athletic wear, didn't drip on any squeamish males. It wasn't any more of a health hazard than a sanitary napkin or tampon. It would just go into the laundry instead of the bin at the end of the day.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)despite what the writer of the article claims. Any blood she lost during the race was absorbed by the tights she wore.
Chemisse
(30,817 posts)So what if it did stream down and gets on the track (which apparently it didn't)? People aren't leaning down and touching the blood with their own open wounds. It can't go through shoes, socks, and skin.
It would be quite a trick to catch a disease under these circumstances.
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KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Fecal matter is far from uncommon on San Francisco streets.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Sounds as gross as people sweating in public. The horror. The horror...
City Lights
(25,171 posts)Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Google her name + diarrhea. No one called it a public health hazard.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)The esteemed Gormy Cuss and champion marathoner Grete Waitz put the fork to that line of attack.
Texasgal
(17,047 posts)I guess you have no idea how mensuration works! Blood does not gush or leave a fucking trail! We are talking teaspoons here! UGH!
Daemonaquila
(1,712 posts)I run with a tampon all the time, even long runs like half marathon or more. You just have to choose the right one - or you CAN chafe or have it dislodge and be horribly uncomfortable. I'd be much more uncomfortable with the wetness down my gear, since that can chafe too. But hey, I'd do it if I ran into problems during the race, and regardless, to each her own. We're covered in sweat, and sometimes when things go wrong in barf, or as someone mentioned some people's stomachs get upset because they ate wrong that morning and they wind up having an accident. It's part of your race plan. You just go with it.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)One would think there'd be sports tampons designed for precisely this purpose.
Daemonaquila
(1,712 posts)But they're really hard to get in a lot of stores. You'd think that everyone would wear those all the time, right? Less leaks are good. All I know is that I would NEVER wear your basic straight Tampax for a long race. That way madness lies.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Daemonaquila
(1,712 posts)Is there a reason that anyone else should have a say in this? Is there any reason that people should get offended by how she runs? Or is it just a bunch of goody-goodies tut-tutting their way into her business? What else do they want to get offended by? Her sweat? Whether she shaved that morning? Whether she peed herself a little on mile 22? Just because most of us wouldn't make the same choice for comfort, doesn't mean it isn't a valid choice for someone else.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)I misread your comment, provided some information, and made no judgment at all.
sir pball
(4,758 posts)I don't have the necessary equipment to menstruate during a race, but I have more than once had my upper thighs chafe bloody, and regardless of the source or gender, having a sticky, clotting fluid coating skin rubbing on skin for 26 or even 13 miles (done one full, but more halves than I can count - I speak from experience) is hellish. I've outright poured cups from the water stations down my shorts in a desperate attempt to clean up, much to the courseworkers' amusement..
B2G
(9,766 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I imagine many people with delicate sensibilities, to better protect their fragile awareness feel the same-- except on football Sundays when a mere drop of blood is little more than a badge of honor.
underpants
(182,877 posts)Whatever you've trained in you wear. Some people get a new pair of shoes a week or two out but they break them in. I saw two guys bleeding through new running shirts in my first two marathons. Bleeding from the nipples. Nipple tape became a regular thing for me after that.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)underpants
(182,877 posts)These were white guys
I'm just kidding....well they were white.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Foot blisters and nipple chafing. Some days I must look like a freak: really hairy chest but little clear strips next to the nipples.
Other things to have in the little invisible pouch:
Neosporin ointment
Room/car key
Credit card
Two twenties, for bus or cab fare
Nicotine pills (at least I don't smoke anymore)
Advil
Leftover hydrocodone from the dentist
A joint
A matchbook
pnwmom
(108,991 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)I don't care that she made the choice that she made. It just seems it was more a bid for attention that anything else.
demmiblue
(36,885 posts)Leaving a trail of blood?!
A woman's uterus during menses is not like an open wound.
The average blood loss is really not all that much.
P.S. Good on her!
Edit: maybe some women, too!
Orrex
(63,223 posts)In other words, it's clearly an unfair advantage over her competitors running behind her.
The trickery!
demmiblue
(36,885 posts)pick up an egg, then shoot the field with a slick, bloody stream of back-the-fuck off!
Orrex
(63,223 posts)Beats the shit out of a blue shell, that's for sure.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)demmiblue
(36,885 posts)Daemonaquila
(1,712 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)johnp3907
(3,732 posts)Almost blew corn salsa out my nose!
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)your post made me laugh even harder.
Kali
(55,019 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)emoticon. Turn away. Turn away now before it is too late.
Some people in this thread are way too squeamish to be in the adult world.
Deadshot
(384 posts)Some of us don't want to contract Hepatitis, HIV, or any other bloodborne infections. She was purposely running while bleeding and exposing others to potential infections because she didn't want to be uncomfortable.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)At worst, her pants were stained. Don't stick your face into her stained sweaty crotch and you'll be fine.
Deadshot
(384 posts)I'll just let it bleed, you know, to show that it's okay for people with head wounds to bleed. I wouldn't want to put on a hat or bandage because it could be uncomfortable.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)More hyperbole of yours... this time illustrated by false equivalency.
Deadshot
(384 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Hope your cough didn't develop from following a jogger so closely you both collided in a pool of her blood. That would be almost as awkward as rationalizing absolutely no concern for a small amount of blood on an athlete... except when she's a she.
I suppose we merely imagine the blood stained uniforms and players on Sunday afternoons football games (please continue-- your logical fallacies are bemusing)
(BTW: serious lack of citations in the wiki entry you rest your cases on)
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)You just coughed in public!1!! Now I risk being infected with Hepatitis, HIV, or the pneumonic plague!
progressoid
(49,998 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)That would be better than archery!
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)johnp3907
(3,732 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Response to johnp3907 (Reply #155)
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montana_hazeleyes
(3,424 posts)This one almost made me pee my pants!LOL
u4ic
(17,101 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)No doubt, you are as concerned with sweating runners too, yes (as sweat may also pass along many diseases, e.g., Hep B)? Or (and I find this somewhat more likely) you're practicing the same hyperbole you indict others for...
Deadshot
(384 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)You then are not concerned with sweat born illnesses or diseases transmitted by saliva after people spit?
(I'm going with the "your own hyperbole matches that with which you indict others for"
Deadshot
(384 posts)Geez.
That's why they're called "bloodborne disease".
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)It begs the question: How many people have fallen ill after following a menstruating jogger lacking sanitary pads-- that being the premise of your concern?
Geez, part II
tblue37
(65,483 posts)contact with that blood. (LOOK at the picture!)
And anyone in the race or watching the race who goes out of their way (which is what it would take) to come into contact with that blood would be too busy dealing with sexual assault charges to have much time or energy left over to fret about all the "dangers" you seem so concerned about.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Deadshot
(384 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Deadshot
(384 posts)OH. Wait. A woman wrote it.
Huh.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)as evidenced by the picture in Post #67. Last time I checked, one's chest was considered to be part of one's body.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)I would get severe enough chafing on my legs to actually bleed through my undershorts and some through my cotton running shorts.
If you can see the blood through the shirt or shorts then you probably should be pulled from the race if you want to be completely safe. Droplets definitely should lead to being pulled.
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Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)in a marathon either.
Orrex
(63,223 posts)Do you commonly make a habit of maintaining contact with a fellow marathoner's genitals while running?
underahedgerow
(1,232 posts)all the hysteria from the men folk here.... THANK YOU!!!!!
Orrex
(63,223 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)Orrex
(63,223 posts)So that's another unfair advantage! Shocking!
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)You're killing me!
trueblue2007
(17,237 posts)Vinca
(50,303 posts)It's hard to believe any woman in London is shamed because she's having her period. IMO, this is just "look at me, look at me" and a fatally stained running outfit.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"a fatally stained running outfit..."
Much like the "fatally stained" football uniforms we see on Sundays...
Vinca
(50,303 posts)What's up next - people who toss their catheters and colostomy bags before the race?
Stinkles
(5 posts)haikugal
(6,476 posts)What incredible strength! Running a marathon on her period AND using it for a social good! I notice she's also Indian...you GO GIRL!!!!
Thanks for posting this Kama!
K&R
demwing
(16,916 posts)haikugal
(6,476 posts)underpants
(182,877 posts)My first two marathons. Two guys with,they admitted, with brand new wicking shirts bleeding through them. I made nipple tape (strips of athletic tape) a regular part of my gear on longer training runs. Gruesome.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)exboyfil
(17,865 posts)https://www.iahsaa.org/Sports_Medicine_Wellness/Comm/Sport_Blood_Rules.pdf
Would be allowed to continue race under Iowa rules. No marathon for high school athletes though - much shorter races (up to 3 miles in cross country).
In general requirement is to also have clean clothing.
Deadshot
(384 posts)Or something.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Much as pro football players in America are... every weekend.
Though no doubt, calling her a warrior was not hyperbole on your part, merely a well-rationalized adjective.
Deadshot
(384 posts)Again, why is this woman considered a hero? She chose to be unsanitary.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)but it is a hot topic of discussion. In high school you definitely will be pulled.
Deadshot
(384 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)So, the NFL is bleeding over itself. What specific illnesses has it led to?
Deadshot
(384 posts)It's about someone who willingly bled to prove some cause while putting others in potential risk.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)You're moving the goalposts, and I certainly understand your desire to so so. However, either it's concern across the board or it's not at all.
And, as NFL players willingly stay on the field while bleeding-- "putting others in potential risk", you may wish to take your alleged concern up with those that offend it the most-- that being the NFL.
As a matter of fact, we have a sports and and NFL board on DU. You should really take your alleged concern theere also and get their take on it... unless of course, the concern for sport safety is in fact, simply an allegation to better mask a somewhat less noble sentiment which applies only to women.
Deadshot
(384 posts)The OP isn't about accidental bleeding in the NFL. It's about a woman who purposefully bled to prove something.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)NFL players purposefully stay on the field during play. Willfully placing others, as you allege, at risk. There is no relevant and precise difference between the runner or the fullback who both play while bleeding at this point.
Consistency is not a logical fallacy. Pretending it is though, is rather irrational.
You keep moving those goalposts though...
Deadshot
(384 posts)It's not about bleeding in the NFL, nipple bleeding while running, or any other type of accidental bleeding.
Nice try, though.
Kingofalldems
(38,474 posts)Deadshot
(384 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)It's obviously Trump. He's not obsessed about menstrual blood only on Twitter, you know.
tblue37
(65,483 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Incorrect. Bleeding players stay often on the field. Injured players often stay on the field.
Why are football players considered heroes? They choose to be unsanitary.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Should this Blood Rule apply to pro football?
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)Risk is no less in football than the other sports involved. Either it is a valid concern or it is not. It may take someone contracting an illness before the NFL does something.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"Either it is a valid concern or it is not."
It's not. Else we would have heard numerous and collective discussions regarding NFL players all over each other prior to this intance. Let's not pretend it's a valid concern... though I realize we use the word concern to hide less noble sentiments.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)Not around here. Kids run in the rain (not lightning) or mud all the time and they are filthy before, during, and after the race. One time, the mud was so thick that my son's shoe stuck in it and he finished the race wearing one shoe and one sock.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)That is the rule at least in Iowa. You can finish a race with blood on you (note three miles max distance), but you cannot start one with blood on you. In some sports you have to be pulled immediately (see link).
Obviously unless a rule exists in advance, then the competitor should be able to continue to race. No matter what the cause of the blood it should be handled in a consistent fashion.
City Lights
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LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)26 mile long trail, I tells ya!!!!
elias49
(4,259 posts)Please!
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)elias49
(4,259 posts)Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)underahedgerow
(1,232 posts)Sigh.
I did like her point though... Billions of women around the world don't have any access to sanitary products, and much worse, are ostracized and made by men to feel as though menstruating is a dirty thing because it's vaginally related.
The weirdest thing I see routinely in shops here is muslim men supervising their wives' purchase of sanitary products. Took me ages to figure out just what the deal was with that. Creeps me out.
johnp3907
(3,732 posts)Almost like some men want to, I don't know......control women, or something.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)I knew where this would go before reading the rest of the thread. LOL.
randome
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gollygee
(22,336 posts)There have been hundreds, in fact thousands of years to teach our society how icky we are. Sigh.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)Geeze, marathon runners don't pay much attention to such niceties when they're commanding their bodies to keep working. Who would have thought?
It's not women's fault they were made like this any more than it's men's fault we have such exposed genitalia. We all work with what we've been given.
Or, to put it another way, go with the flow.
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kcr
(15,320 posts)If you ask me, that was the beginning of the end
Yes, that was over the top. But number one, who is advocating for "free bleeding"? The point is menstrual blood is no different than any other blood. The only reason people thing this is disgusting is the notion that women are unclean. It's about time that idea were relegated to the past, the same past that didn't like women in pants. And it starts when we stop seeing something like this as sooooo outrageous!! She had a blood stain on her pants. Big deal.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)do you know the year women were allowed to run in the Boston Marathon ? As a man I gotta admit men are fucking morons .
nolabear
(41,991 posts)Can you believe it? NINETEEN SIXTY EIGHT.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2012/04/02/149876890/photo-the-first-woman-to-enter-the-boston-marathon
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)She can bleed in public anytime, anywhere. I'm not sure it's a blow for feminism anything like that.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...was dripping sulfuric acid on the ground...
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)Skittles
(153,192 posts)Boudica the Lyoness
(2,899 posts)All women bleed when they are menstrating and this one wanted us to see it. How pathetic is that? She could have worn a longer top and black bottoms - but she needed the extra attention. You're not doing anything clever or unique when you're menstrating - unless you're a bloke.
In my opinion she's pretty fucking disgusting. What's next - having our favorite turds bronzed and wearing them as hats?
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Boudica the Lyoness
(2,899 posts)Good one.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)gwheezie
(3,580 posts)I competed for my best time. Blood, piss or shit would not have stopped me. I would never wear a pad and I've had tampons wind up in the most uncomfortable places. I never started a competition without a tampon but I have reached down and pulled them out on a moving horse during a competition There's nothing more uncomfortable than competing in a 50 mile race on horseback and having your tampon half out. Really nothing.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)for it until you could get where you could take it out and replace it. And obviously, you can't do that in a race of any sort.
It's funny but my daughter never reports that my granddaughters are in the least bit concerned about their periods. I credit the women's movement for that...and also, ahem, my good genes for passing along some healthy reproductive health to my female grandchildren...
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)sight, whether spittle, urine, or menstrual blood.
#sorrynotsorry
Oh, and for any of you "You GO, girl!" males? FYI: It doesn't always look like or comprise "nice" blood.
Skittles
(153,192 posts)she has issues
Texasgal
(17,047 posts)not said anything no one would have noticed.
To me this is a non issue.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)So how would no one not notice?
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)alarimer
(16,245 posts)I've always found it gross. Then again, everything about humans and their bodily effluvia is gross (to me). I acknowledge that I am a bit too easily disgusted by humans, though.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)It was a prank.
Well trolled, sirs.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)nor did I.
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closeupready
(29,503 posts)Who knows where we'll end up with this kind of thing - where did it start? Whatev.
ALBliberal
(2,344 posts)Stop for a tampon and the correct pair of tights. I am fine with her decision. It's nature.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)to keep it from running down my legs as I ran or whatever I were to be doing, I would take advantage of the tools to stop that from happening. I really do not see how this advances any cause. Educate me.
Also, holy shit, bloodborne pathogens are a real thing.
AndreaCG
(2,331 posts)And those menstrual cups seem like they might have been a good option, although supposedly they're a little tricky to learn how to insert. One of them would have lasted for the duration of the race. I suppose she may have felt the dripping of blood down her legs would be no more uncomfortable than the sweat that occurs while running. I don't think I would have done it but whatever. As long as her blood's not toxic with aids or hepatitis I guess it's ok.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Saw them in CVS.
dilby
(2,273 posts)I don't think I would be doing very comfortable with some foreign object inserted in any orifice in my body and running 26 miles.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)don't even know they are there.
randome
(34,845 posts)I think it's safe to assume she may not know everything that you or I might take for granted. And anyways, even if she did know about a moon cup, she can choose to not wear one. No big deal, IMO.
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3catwoman3
(24,039 posts)...a marathon, for a variety of reasons. Now I have one more. I am an intensely private person, especially about bodily functions, and have no wish to have anything publicly "leaking" from me under any circumstances.
A related question. Would this be acceptable if done by female swimmers or the women's Olympic gymnastics teams? How about ballet dancers?
closeupready
(29,503 posts)to judge?! My gosh.
HFRN
(1,469 posts)as 'The Donald' would put it
IVoteDFL
(417 posts)She didn't wear a tampon! End of the world. Oh noes.
I can't count how many times I've been wearing a tampon at work (I Unload trucks) and it comes loose and blood is "running down my legs". Not to mention all of those OOPS! before I learned how to tell when my period was coming and would get blood on my clothing, furniture, car seats etc. One time it happened on a friend's new sun chair, another time on one of my bf's suede lay-z boys. My car, my grandma's car, friend's cars. I really did bleed all over. This was over a couple of years before my twenties, not in one week. Sad that has to be pointed out here.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)I have never really taken much of an interest in the details of menstruation, as several DUers pointed out. But I consider myself now better educated and have self-deleted the post in question. Sorry folks.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)If she wants to run on a treadmill in her own house bleeding then so be it but blood whether it's coming out of someone neck or feet is a bio hazard and if she used her hands to check herself during the race then touched other people, surfaces or objects like cups her blood poses a risk to the public.
This is not brave or "sticking it to the man", it's stupid because it poses a risk to the public that might come in contact with her blood, it's selfish because she has zero disregard for the public and it's disgusting, I don't care if its blood or feces, you just don't go around in a public place exposing others to your bodily fluids.
Blood Borne pathogens are very much real https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/bloodbornepathogens/
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)She's not spraying blood all over the place. She isn't letting blood drip onto surfaces that others touch. She's wearing clothing that absorbs the already small amount of blood that actually exits her body.
Even if some blood was to fall to the ground, can you even fathom how unlikely it would be that you would somehow come into contact with it in a fashion that would allow for absorption into your blood stream? It's so insignificant a risk that it isn't statistically a risk at all. You're vastly more likely to get sick from all of the coughed out particles floating around in the air. And I don't see you running around calling all the maskless people around you degenerates.
Your rhetoric is deeply reactionary and totally uninformed. Get a clue.