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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow the Bush-administration built ISIS. (No, literally.)
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1780-we-built-their-death-squads-isiss-bizarre-origin-story.html- Camp Bucca was an unofficial prison run by the US-army in Iraq. The inmates? Everyone they wanted to get rid off without the hassle of a trial. It is estimated that 90% of the inmates were actually innocent. But it was a formidable melting-pot where extremists of all colors got to know each other. One of those inmates was Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi.
- The inmates learned to put their squabbles aside and focus their hatred on a common enemy: The US.
- The US employed iraqi death-squads. No, real death-squads. Their name was "Sons of Iraq" and they were mainly sunni. They slaughtered pretty much anybody who so much as MAYBE caused trouble. And while the US-soldiers had regulations, the Sons of Iraq learned very fast that they had carte blanche to arrest and kill whomever they felt like.
90% of the drop of violence due to the "surge" was due to their method to liberally kill any perceived trouble-makers.
- In 2008 the Bush-administration transfered the control over all iraqi prisoners, including Camp Bucca, to the iraqi government. Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi was released in 2010.
- Also, in 2008 the Bush-administration pushed the responsibility of paying the Sons of Iraq to the iraqi government. When the US-army left Iraq under Obama in 2011, freedom-loving Al-Maliki immediately sacked his sunni vice-president and stopped paying the sunni Sons of Iraq.
Most of the Sons of Iraq didn't join ISIS, although some did, for the money. The main point was: The toughest fighting-force of Iraq, consisting of a 100,000 battle-hardened, trigger-happy, brutal assholes, had been disbanded. ISIS had 30,000 fighters at that point. And the iraqi army is a joke.
The rest is history.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Bush links Clinton to rise of Islamic State
And now Jeb is going to try to link the rise of Islamic State to Hillary's time as SOS. HA! Now the beginnings of Islamic State is right back to his brother. Why in the Hell would Jeb try to link this to Hillary as SOS.
Syzygy321
(583 posts)You have swallowed a different flavor of Kool-Aid is all.
Not that there is no truth in what you say - my objection is that you are doing the usual nonsense of making a list of bad guys (Bush, ISIS, Sons of Iraq) and then you fantasize that some other force is the good guys (hahaha - al-Maliki!!!). You want a simple narrative where Buffy and Giles battle the forces of Darkness. Then you can say that all blame goes to the said you want to blame.
In fact, there are no particular good guys (and one can argue that even the bad guys - hell, even Bush and a chunk of ISiS - are halfway victims of circumstance.
Oversimplification is bad.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Maliki's sectarian policies to favor Shiites over Sunnis were actually one of the main problems.
Syzygy321
(583 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,874 posts)By tomorrow it will be Obama because just about everything in the whole wide world is his fault.
sketchy
(458 posts)I have never seen these facts presented in such an easy to comprehend way.
Thank you for this post.