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By Jarvis DeBerry, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune
August 12, 2015 at 4:18 PM
On Thursday, August 13, New Orleanians will get to attend two public meetings concerning the proposed removal of four Confederate-themed monuments ... You can be sure .. some .. people.. will spout .. nonsense about the Confederate States fighting for some other reason than its desire to keep .. people in chains ... If you think that the city ought to celebrate those who failed in their task to preserve slavery, go ahead and make that argument. It's a bad position to have, but at least it would be based on who Robert E. Lee, P.G.T Beauregard, Jefferson Davis and the White League really were ... They were fighting for the right to own, sell and work human beings the way you'd own, sell and work a mule.
http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2015/08/confederate_monuments_new_orle.html
arcane1
(38,613 posts)People act as if we need to hold a seance to ponder the many-layered mysteries of secession. Rather, when reading their declarations, it's hard to find a reason that was NOT somehow related to slavery.
Hell, Mississippi lays it all out in the first sentence of their 2nd paragraph: "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery"
http://www.civilwar.org/education/history/primarysources/declarationofcauses.html
former9thward
(32,074 posts)Why did it happen in 1861 as opposed to 1841 or 1821 or some other period.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Most of the average soldiers didn't own nor were fighting for slavery. They were drafted. They didn't agree with the purpose anymore than drafted Vietnam soldiers were bought into that war.
TBF
(32,090 posts)they'd do it to all of us if they could. They absolutely were fighting for the right to own slaves & they considered them property. And it's not like they rounded them up in the neighborhood. They specifically went across an OCEAN to capture them on another continent and enslave them because they knew they could get away with it. And they did for quite awhile.
Today's version is fancied up a bit. Instead of bringing them here (which ultimately didn't go so well), now the owners go to the other continents and pretend to "employ" people - which amounts to pennies on the dollar. Which companies are involved? Most of them probably - this story in 2011 notes Walmart, Target, Macy's, Kohl's and Hanes (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/21/american-brands-abuses-factories-jordan-labor-conditions_n_903995.html).
When republicans, and notable others, talk about "Free Trade" you should ask yourself what they are after. Latest version = TPP. Who supports TPP? People who want labor as cheap as possible. It would be free if they had their way.