somebody....what a lovely person she looks to be..

I know what you mean, but no one ever ever ever deserves to be violated. Ever.

It's somehow worse for a "charmer" or "sweet girl" or "lovely person" to be sexually assaulted than it is for someone who is not charming, sweet, girl, or lovely to be forcibly penetrated for sexual pleasure?

Sick. Fucking sick.

But I don't apologize for thinking and saying that she's a sweetie...

Hells bells, she doesn't look like a hooker, (am no authority on hookers, so maybe she is one). To me she looks like a librarian or the lady who works for a preacher, and I hope he's not the one who forcibly penetrated her for physical pleasure...

The older I get the less I understand and need to be reproached by young people like you. Thank you.

Does that mean she's incapable of being raped or sexually penetrated against her will, or somehow more deserving of rape or sexual penetration against her will?

Seems like you're doubling down on this idea of her not looking like a hooker, she looks like a librarian, looking like a church-goer. A charmer. A sweetie.

Ugly people, and prostitutes, and non-church workers and people who can't even read are all capable of being raped or sexually penetrated against their will. They are no more deserving than this lady is.

And if you're sad to be reproached by someone my age (how you know my age is a mystery...) then perhaps you shouldn't say things, and say them repeatedly, and stand by saying them, that really should make the hair stand up on the back of anyones' neck, regardless of their age.

Tell us, what do you look like? Would your looks cause others to think 'gee, she really deserves a police officer to shove their fingers up her vagina for no reason"? Because you're basing this woman's right for justice upon her looks and her place in your notion of proper society. That's sick, and that's wrong, and I don't give one good goddamn how old you are, that's a shitty attitude to have.

But that was a complete valid rant... wtf is wrong with some people?????

As it is physically impossible for an ugly woman who looks like a hooker to be raped. I mean, come on, she doesn't even look like a librarian for christssake"

My senses are dulled, my fingers are slow, and my memory is crappy too. Am having a hard time just now trying to remember whose oil Trump wants to bomb, rebuild and take and protect with men in boots, I mean boots on the ground...is it Iraq or Iran...if you know tell me..

I don't have any religion, am an agnostic, love everybody.


I have to leave now. Am needed to judge a beauty contest.

Again, I like the doubling-down on shitty remarks.

I know lots of 77 year olds. Some of them don't look like librarians, and some of them do look like hookers. Guess they should wear metal panties to prevent their completely justified (in your eyes) sexual assault.

Please PLEASE don't ever be on a jury for a sexual assault case. You MUST tell them that you believe someone's right to justice after an assault lies in how they look and what job you imagine them having. Not whether they were actually assaulted, but what they looked like when they go on TV to talk about their assault. Pretty = raped. Ugly =

I... my... I... my.. I... me...

When an OP includes a "trigger warning", that means that the post contains information about sexual assault and/or violence which may be triggering to survivors. It is usually a warning to the survivor AND a request to other posters to keep the thread a "safe place". It's not a time for sexism. It's not a time for victim blaming. It's not a time for baiting other posters and amusing yourself at their expense.

Now maybe we should all just get the hell off of your lawn...

but I have to agree that looks should not be in the discussion about rape. No woman should be forcibly penetrated, no matter who she is....not by her own husband, not if she is a prostitute, not if she is an old lady.

that anything that penetrated was a rape. Why else did he call a female officer to do it. If he knew, why did they do it?

How many of us would have called it a rape if we were not given the definition? That's the first time I ever heard of a female cop searching a female anywhere could be called a rape. I thought that even border cops search anybody anywhere when they get off a plane, etc. I've heard of females being searched "there" for drugs or jewels...

The female who hung herself with a plastic bag in a Texas jail was also totally humiliated by having her head beat into the ground and missing her first day of work in a new place. Educated lady too.

This lady has some good lawyer advising her...and the cops should pay for this rape and humiliation.

But that's why DU is here, to express different opinions. I've never been a "me too" person, even when evidence is legal when it lacks logic.

Texas, woe is me.

Should only "lovely"-looking people be safe from abuse?

They should all be fired and prosecuted. This is sickening and rage-inducing.

and the cops should realize that since no guilt has been proven, an exam like that should be done in private, curtained, and not flat out on in a parking lot where others can see her being accused at worst, humiliated at best.


And Miss Corley is fortunate not to have been held in a nice Texas jail, put on death row and executed, all according to the rules.

They have given the police and the government so much latitude that the 4th amendment may as well not exist.

She could sue all the way to the Supreme Court and I seriously doubt she'll win. It's astounding how much the court system favors the police.

Legal rape over a plant that should be legal anyway that she wasn't in possession of. There are no words.....

Fucking disgusting.

This is not OK. This is rape and terrorism. How can I feel safe going anywhere if cops have the right to kill or rape me on a whim?

As a female officer I sometimes had to do searches like this- sadly women carrying contraband there is more common than you may think. And sonic men carrying items in their anus- especially into prison.

Given what's presented here, had I been called to this scene to do a search I would have refused, called my supervisor and asked him WTF his officer was thinking.

You need a lot more PC than was presented here for such an invasive search. And if your going to conduct it you transport the person either to the jail intake (where incoming male and female prisoners alike get cavity searches) or to the hospital
ER where the search can be done in a private area, not out in a damn parking lot.

It could well be classified as a rape, but in real life does a rapist call a female to penetrate another female's vagina? Makes no sense to me to call this a rape. The victim was safer to call it that because racism would have been more difficult to prove.

In my judgment, and I'm not always right, this is a case of racism, and the victim perhaps seemed a bit "high-hat" for lack of a better term, to the officer and the officer wanted to "put this classy black woman in her place." They found a bit of marijuana (.02) on her, obviously BEFORE the vagina search which lasted over an hour in the car, which would have been a crime. But the humiliation was what the officer needed....

This is more like South Carolina, an invisible flag, and hate.

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not her vagina! After reading your other posts,It seems the only thing greater than your lack of reading comprehension is your callousness!

I keep trying to figure out what you're saying but can't get past the " but in real life does a rapist call a female to penetrate another female's vagina?"

Not sure why you're saying "in real life" here but I think you mean that it doesn't make sense for one person to call someone to assist them with a sexual assault or rape. Basically the first deputy held her down (by threat of arrest) while the other deputy assaulted her.

JMHO

This isn't about physical assault, but an invisible flag? Do what now?

This happened in "real life" and one officer called another to commit a rape.

Yes, there is probably racism at work here too. That does not negate the sexual assault aspect.

Beginning in 2013, rape is defined for Summary UCR purposes as, “Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”

In what Bizaro world do we presume that an odor of Marijuana, detectable during a traffic stop. Might even remotely be coming from somebodies body cavity?

Absolutely egregious and unacceptable criminal behavior. And she would be a very sympathetic plaintiff. I'd start by asking for about $5-10 million including punitive damages.

that I worked with over 40 years ago, and she was a friend, she was in her early 40's and I was in my 20's. I can't help but think of her when I see Corley and hope she sues the county. The cops acted as they were taught. The humiliation on the parking lot floor was not part of what they were taught I would assume.

I sympathize with her for this happening, but if you read the op, you'd realize that she's lucky that worse didn't happen:

A spokesman for the Harris County Sherriff’s’ Department said that “the deputies did everything as they should.” As the Washington Post put it:

“And so there you have it. Holding a woman down and forcibly penetrating her vagina to search for pot is official policy in Harris County.”

Official policy that is wrong. But it's their policy. (not mine)

The official investigation isn't complete yet, and I'd sure like to know what they come up with.

Rape by instrumentality if you want to use fingers. Shameful.

Harris County (Houston and surroundings) is the death penalty capital of the world. Fourth largest city in the United States. Four million people living in the metro area, the largest city in a state that LOVES to execute people, questions of guilt or innocence be damned! I was a court reporter there for 20 years and it's a zoo. The complex of buildings that hold courtrooms, DA's offices, jails, Sheriff's Department, law library, parking, county administration, etc. is bigger than a lot of state capital building complexes.

Hasn't a Texas court ruled against this sort of behavior yet? If not, file it in federal court. This happened too often.

I know that cavity searches are legal, but they need to be done inside, not on the side of the road. There also has to be real probable cause for that sort of invasive search.

Edit to add: I meant cavity searches are legal after an arrest as part of the booking of the detainee.