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to attack the former SoS. And if they succeed with her, they can go after Bernie -- or any other opponent.
He's not safe simply because he wasn't Secretary of State. As long as he's gotten ANY emails on a personal or political account, he could be held responsible IF some of those emails contain discussions of information that is RETROACTIVELY deemed classified.
This published law journal article explains how the Federal Government can and does remove information from the PUBLIC RECORD and retroactively deem it SECRET.
This is why there can be so many conflicting reports about whether any information in Hillary's emails was classified at the time; and why some things are being redacted now.
And this could have a chilling effect on free speech -- for politicians, for the media -- for any of us.
"Retroactively Classified Documents, the First Amendment, and the Power to Make Secrets Out of the Public Record"
http://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=9475&context=penn_law_review
by Jonathan Abel, Fellow, Constitutional Law Center, Stanford University
INTRODUCTION
Now you see it. Now you dont.
This is not a magicians incantation. It is a description of retroactive classification, a little-known provision of U.S. national security law that allows the government to declassify a document, release it to the public, and then declare it classified later on. Retroactive classification means the government could hand you a document today and prosecute you tomorrow for not giving it back. Retroactive classification can even reach documents that are available in public libraries, on the Internet, or elsewhere in the public domain.
The executive branch has used retroactive classification to startling effect. The Department of Justice, for example, declassified and released a report on National Security Agency (NSA) wiretapping only to declare, years later, that the report was once again classified. The journalist who had received the report was threatened with prosecution if he did not return it. Retroactive classification has also targeted government documents revealing corruption in Iraq, violence in Afghanistan, and mismanagement of the national missile defense program. In each of these cases, the government released a document in an unclassified form through official channelsnot through a leakand then turned around to classify it.
This practice would be troubling enough if it actually removed the document from the public domain. But in the Internet Age, once a document is released to the public, it is often impossible for the government to retrieve it. While retroactive classification does not remove the document from the public domain, where our enemies can access it, retroactive classification does remove the document from the public discourse, prohibiting members of Congress, government auditors, and law-abiding members of the public from openly discussing it.
In the ongoing debate about the balance between secrecy and transparency in government affairs, retroactive classification tests the limits of the governments ability to control information in the public domain. The questions raised by retroactive classification go far beyond those raised by the WikiLeaks and Edward Snowden disclosures. In those cases, the information remained classified even though it was widely available in the public domain. A similar situation occurs with retroactive classification when information in the public domain becomes classified. The difference is that in retroactive classification, the government initially released this information in a non-classified form and only later decided to classify it. This difference makes retroactive classification much more complicated from a legal standpoint because it involves the governments going back on its initial classification decision. Retroactive classification thus forces us to ask what limits, if any, exist on the governments authority to control information. Can the government reach into the public domain to make a secret out of something it has already disclosed? Are we obligated to go along with retroactive classification decisions? What are the implications beyond national security law? This Article takes up these pressing questions.
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dsc
(52,162 posts)five seconds after the election is over, either way, the people who are doing great odes to secrecy and classification and warning us of illegality will be screaming like roosters if anyone classifies anything at anytime.
liberal N proud
(60,335 posts)Some one needs to define when these f $#& emails were classified as classified.
After all the attacks the M$M and the GOP have made Benghazi and all the resort to classifying emails retroactively! I cry BULLSHIT!
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)But some DUers here have insisted that doesn't matter; nor does it matter to them that all of the emails so far were apparently forwarded to Hillary rather than sent by her.
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)or lying or both. Probably both. The word "retroactively" never appears in their reporting unless they started today.
liberal N proud
(60,335 posts)And we have gut enough to call out Russian propaganda.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)GOP, they will need to learn how to deal with their problems.
Gothmog
(145,293 posts)I need to read this when I have time
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)Lawrence, a female reporter from the Washington Post (I think) and two guys.
blah, blah, blah - criminal
blah. blah, blah - classified emails
blah, blah, blah - 40 years of scandal
blah, blah, blah - don't know where investigation is going
blah, blah, blah - server in the basement
No mention of retroactive classification.
They are LIARS.
Except maybe the guy named Zeke who was not allowed to speak.
Gloria
(17,663 posts)Did he challenge them at all on this? He, Chris, and Rachel need to discuss "retroactive classification" and so should Clinton, herself.
Someone on one of the shows tonight was saying she has to go after this all the time ...and finally, she has spoken up. She has to vigorously defend all the time... not let it go.
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)He has always been a Clinton hater. I assume it is because he failed to get a job that he wanted in the Clinton White House. Guess that is when he turned to fiction writing in Hollywood for The West Wing. It is what he is best at and he needs to return permanently to the west coast and quit playing with peoples lives by pretending to be a member of the media.
He is so fucking arrogant and loves to play with policy and politics in order to prove his superiority. I have come to despise him.
Gloria
(17,663 posts)will watch with a different perspective now, thanks!