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Sometimes offending people is necessaryFound on the Facebook page of God/MoveOn.org
RC
(25,592 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)And dream of fighting that battle again.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)to the Good ol' Days.
That's right . Lets take our country back from the brink Bonehead and "friends " want o take us over !
alfredo
(60,075 posts)Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)pokerfan
(27,677 posts)beac
(9,992 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)the online homophobes from now on.
theaocp
(4,244 posts)are for banning divorce?
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,135 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)wha?
liberalhistorian
(20,819 posts)why marriage equality should NOT be considered a civil right????????
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,135 posts)... but it's not comparable to interracial marriage. That was based on racism. Religion wasn't a factor. The entire argument against same sex marriage is based on the Old Testament.
I think it's more important to stress what a marriage contract means as a civil right and as a financial burden.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,335 posts)Bullshit. You really need to read up on the subject.
Just a suggestion.
FreeState
(10,575 posts)eaglesfanintn
(82 posts)is marriage not a right? Driving your car is a privilege, marriage is a right.
It wasn't so long ago that people of different races weren't allowed to marry. Is a white man marrying a black woman not a right? So, if that black woman becomes a black man, what changed? They still love each other, are committed to each other and want to spend the rest of their lives together. Who are you to prevent that?
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,135 posts)My gut tells me that getting to the crux of what a contract of marriage is will be more likely to turn down the heat on the debate. And stressing that the right to marry is purely legal and that religious ceremonies are dependent on the parties involved will win over another segment of the population. Civil Rights come with a price. It's worth paying, but often means several steps backwards before catching up and going forward.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may/15/opinion/la-oe-segall-gay-marriage-backlash-20120515
Kali
(55,019 posts)eShirl
(18,502 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)The people in the top photo are protesting to "protect marriage".
The people in the bottom photo are protesting to "protect marriage".
The difference is......?
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,135 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)Preachers in the era of the lower photo spent a lot of time preaching how God created multiple races, and man shouldn't mix them. Many churches were quite upset that interracial marriage would be forced upon them.
But feel free to try again.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,135 posts)now that they support it? It's because pastors in most black churches have condemned homosexuality. I've had this debate many times and fear that this road is leading to a dead end. Whereas legal arguments will win in eventually. Stick to civil rights and the contract. Take out the emotional charge. That's my 2 cents. Take it or leave it.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)is because religion was used in both situations.
It doesn't matter if black churches are now speaking out against marriage equality. Because churches were speaking out against interracial marriage. It's the exact same thing.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,135 posts)Which is why so many church going black Americans in California oppose gay marriage. Even though they may have gained rights before 1967, their relatively progressive community (and their personal bias) have them on the wrong side of history.
Plus if you look at this map you see a civil war era divide. To me that says not religion, but racism was more of a factor for banning interracial marriage.
U.S States, by the date of repeal of anti-miscegenation laws:
gray - No laws passed
green - Repealed before 1887
yellow -Repealed from 1948 to 1967
red - Overturned on 12 June 1967
FreeState
(10,575 posts)When I look at that map I see something very simulate to the hate map at Souther Poverty Law Center, and nearly all of the groups base their beliefs about race on religion.
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map
FreeState
(10,575 posts)Over the weekend, the nation's oldest and largest civil rights organization took the logical yet heroic step of publicly supporting marriage rights for gay couples. In doing so, the NAACP has joined President Obama and Hispanic civil rights leaders in dramatically accelerating the movement for marriage equality and hastening the day when it becomes the law of the land. The exhilaration and pride I felt as a black lesbian in my civil rights organization took me back nearly 20 years, to the time that the NAACP stepped out on a skinnier limb at a pivotal moment to stand up for LGBT equality.
beac
(9,992 posts)malthaussen
(17,216 posts)But the caption is foolish. These people do not look "stupid" to the only people they care about -- their fellow bigots.
-- Mal
Bake
(21,977 posts)Bake
krispos42
(49,445 posts)Must be why Obama is a communist...
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)just saying!
Initech
(100,099 posts)HuckleB
(35,773 posts)... not happy. What I've noticed, when i see the discussions under the post, when friends have made it, is that the anti-gay crowd doesn't get far.
It's probably meaningless, but maybe not completely.
Rob H.
(5,352 posts)Given how high divorce rates are in the red states (way higher than among the blue states), I wonder how many of the people in that top photo have been married before, and of those, how many have remarried. Down here in the Bible Belt, that's considered adultery in some faiths (the Southern Baptist Convention, for one).
Hmm....
brooklynite
(94,703 posts)harmonicon
(12,008 posts)Little more than those pictures and that sentence are needed for the importance of being on the right side of history to hit home.
CanonRay
(14,112 posts)Just older and fatter.