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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWaPo: Did Republicans just give away the 2016 election by raising birthright citizenship?
Is that an overstatement? Maybe. But hear me out.
For months, people like me have been pointing to the fundamental challenge Republican presidential candidates face on immigration: they need to talk tough to appeal to their base in the primaries, but doing so risks alienating the Hispanic voters theyll need in the general election. This was always going to be a difficult line to walk, but a bunch of their candidates just leaped off to one side.
After Donald Trump released his immigration plan, which includes an end to birthright citizenship stating that if you were born in the United States but your parents were undocumented, you dont get to be a citizen some of his competitors jumped up to say that they agreed. NBC News asked Scott Walker the question directly, and he seemed to reply that he does favor an end to birthright citizenship, though his campaign qualified the statement later. Bobby Jindal tweeted, We need to end birthright citizenship for illegal immigrants. Then reporters began looking over others past statements to see where they stood on this issue, and found that this isnt an uncommon position among the GOP field. Remember all the agonizing Republicans did about how they had to reach out to Hispanic voters? They never figured out how to do it, and now theyre running in the opposite direction.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/08/18/did-republicans-just-give-away-the-2016-election-by-raising-birthright-citizenship/?hpid=z2
fredamae
(4,458 posts)When is the GOP final registration date for Primary elections? If it is still an open field...the actual winner may still be lurking, unknown to us yet and in the shadows..waiting for the idiots to clear the field?
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)Doesn't that make him stronger in the general election? At the end of the day it will be him as the Republican nominee.
struggle4progress
(118,356 posts)Jebbie is currently at 9%, and he doesn't have a chance in the general election
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)1981-1992 GOP
1992-2000 DNC
2001-2008 GOP
2009-2016 DNC
History shows voters to be fickle. Yes 2000 was stolen but it was too close for a VP well known named candidate.
struggle4progress
(118,356 posts)This isn't just an immigration issue: it's an attempt to roll back the gains we won in our bloody civil war
tazkcmo
(7,302 posts)We're fighting the Civil War still. It never ended, really. Instead of bullets though it's law enforcement, the courts, voter suppression and gerrymandered districts.
mulsh
(2,959 posts)n/t
pscot
(21,024 posts)Climate change and population pressures are creating hundreds of thousands of refugees. It's a huge problem in Europe and we aren't exempt. This doesn't really seem connected to race, or black people who have been here for 400 years. That's just my reading of it.
struggle4progress
(118,356 posts)than an objection to the first sentence of the Fourteenth Amendment?
Our dear dear friends on the other side of the aisle have been thinking for some time now what they could do, if only that pesky sentence weren't part of the constitution: back during the reign of King George the Village Idiot, they were floating the idea in the hallowed halls of Congress that the Executive should have the power to strip anyone of citizenship and then deport
They'll wrap this move in xenophobic language about immigration, and that's ugly enough -- but it's really much much more
randome
(34,845 posts)Now they're just twitching about like a reflex muscle exposed to an electrical current.
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Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Africans, South & North Americans, Middle Easterners, et al., that are here illegally and having babies here in the USA.
Also, again, the GOP party totally forgot about history. Technically, I would say the only people this does not apply to are the Native American Indians.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Monk06
(7,675 posts)the figure to tens of millions more people other than recent undocumented immigrants. If you include the children of birthright citizens this could effect people going back three or four generations.
Conceivably this could be a direct attack on a quarter of the US population who were born and lived in the US all their lives with adult children and grandchildren.
The Teabagger's sure no how to make a mess that can't be cleaned up.
treestar
(82,383 posts)so that would make more undocumented people and create second generation undocumented people. The country could have more aliens in it than it does citizens at that point. the 14th Amendment is a good thing really. Idiotic Republicans, they never think. They know it will never happen (Constitutional Amendment) but use it to fire up their seething with hate base.
pampango
(24,692 posts)For the purposes of determining presidential eligibility, a "natural born" citizen is understood to be someone who gains citizenship "by birth" or "at birth," as opposed to being naturalized as a U.S. citizen, according to a 2011 report from the Congressional Research Service. Birthers contest that understanding, challenging both candidates who were born outside of the U.S. to at least one American parent and candidates who were born inside of the U.S. to foreign parents.
The birther movement most vociferously opposed President Barack Obama's candidacy. But over the years birthers also have challenged George Romney, who was born in Mexico; Barry Goldwater, who was born in Arizona before it became a state; John McCain, who was born in Panama; and even Mitt Romney, who was born in Michigan but whose aforementioned father was born in Mexico.
Now, there are four Republicans running for President in 2016 who've captured the birthers' attention: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) and former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA). Jack Cashill, an author and columnist for WND, the conspiracy theory website that has been something of a birther movement hub, told TPM last week that these birthers remain "constitutionally opposed" to those candidates' eligibility even though they're still likely "ideologically aligned" with the candidates.
Here's how the far-right fringe challenges the candidacies of the four GOPers.
(There follows an explanation of the birthers' case against Cruz - born in Canada with a Cuban father, Rubio - Cuban parents, he's an 'anchor baby', Jindal - foreign parents, he's an 'anchor baby' too, and even Santorum - father may have still be an Italian citizen when he was born.)
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/birther-cases-against-gopers-explained
I had not heard of the birthers' issue with Santorum before.
Once again, if you support crazies and their CT's don't be surprised when they come back around to bite you.
Jim__
(14,083 posts)He's got the yahoos falling all over themselves embracing every stupid thing that he says.