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TexasProgresive

(12,159 posts)
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:22 PM Aug 2015

I just read this- 79 years and 11 months ago

There was a HUGE NAZI RALLY AT NUREMBERG
Hitler Issues Decree Depriving Jews of German Citizenship 19 September 1935

I know Godwin's Law and all that, but this is striking really close to home. Are recent remarks by certain rPukes coming close to taking rights away from a minority for political gain?

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I just read this- 79 years and 11 months ago (Original Post) TexasProgresive Aug 2015 OP
That has been in my mind, too. rogerashton Aug 2015 #1
Godwin's law my foot. Citizenship by blood lines instead of birth right Cleita Aug 2015 #2
So, let's say they repeal the 14th Amendment. world wide wally Aug 2015 #3
An interesting comment about Godwin's law that I just read... madinmaryland Aug 2015 #4
Actually they were a democracy under the Weimar Republic. The Nazis kept Cleita Aug 2015 #6
You ain't the only one JackInGreen Aug 2015 #5

rogerashton

(3,920 posts)
1. That has been in my mind, too.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:26 PM
Aug 2015

And what really seems strange to me -- these conservatives who say that they don't trust government nevertheless seem to be ready to trust government to say whether they are citizens or not.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
2. Godwin's law my foot. Citizenship by blood lines instead of birth right
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:52 PM
Aug 2015

is nothing less than Naziism. Godwin, whoever the hell he is, wants to shut the conversation when people start noticing the uncomfortable truth in front of them when they realize where they have seen this before.

world wide wally

(21,755 posts)
3. So, let's say they repeal the 14th Amendment.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:59 PM
Aug 2015

How far back will the law apply?
All of us other than Native Americans? Only white immigrants get the law to apply to them?
The devil is in the details… but Republicans don't care about any of that. They just wish they could pass a law based on pigmentation, but they don't know what that is either.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
4. An interesting comment about Godwin's law that I just read...
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 06:18 PM
Aug 2015
Although falling foul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate.[9] Similar criticisms of the "law" (or "at least the distorted version which purports to prohibit all comparisons to German crimes&quot have been made by Glenn Greenwald.[10]

I think there is nothing wrong with looking at policies that resemble Nazi Germany and seeing if there really are any comparisons. You seem to have found an interesting comparison. Where it diverges, is that Germany was not a democracy by the time your article was written. We at least have some checks and balances set up that would prevent many of the atrocities of the third reich. There is no way that citizens of the United States would deny rights of citizenship to those who already have it.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
6. Actually they were a democracy under the Weimar Republic. The Nazis kept
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 06:37 PM
Aug 2015

the veneer of democracy, elections, representative government in the Reichstag, a President and chancellor (prime minister) which Hitler combined into one office. Hitler learned from the failure of his beer hall putsch attempt to overthrow the government. When he got out of prison, he set about undermining the government from within, which he accomplished with a variety of moves Karl Rove probably learned from. The Weimar Republic was ended by the allies conquest of Germany.

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