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drmeow

(5,023 posts)
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 08:14 PM Aug 2015

Oprah Is Not Your Friend [The New Prophets of Capital]

A Q&A with Nicole Aschoff

Some highlights:

the wealth they have amassed was not simply the result of their own cunning or ability—it was made possible by all the people who worked for them, not to mention the public infrastructure made possible by taxpayers.

As renowned author Ursula Le Guin said recently: “We live in capitalism, its power seems inescapable—but then, so did the divine right of kings.” Reminding ourselves how change has happened in the past is important if we want to think seriously about creating a different kind of society.

Real feminism—the idea that everyone, regardless of gender, should get decent pay and a voice in their workplace, dignity, respect, quality healthcare and childcare, the right to higher education and housing, and a robust support network for old age, illness, or disability—is incompatible with scaling the corporate jungle gym.



http://www.dissentmagazine.org/blog/oprah-is-not-your-friend-a-qa-with-nicole-aschoff

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Oprah Is Not Your Friend [The New Prophets of Capital] (Original Post) drmeow Aug 2015 OP
k&r. n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #1
I have begun to study LiberalElite Aug 2015 #2
That was very good... AOR Aug 2015 #3
That was my response drmeow Aug 2015 #11
This needs to be posted in full passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #4
Important point! caraher Aug 2015 #6
I went back and forth on which way drmeow Aug 2015 #8
Terrific article. zentrum Aug 2015 #5
Thanks for reading it! n/t drmeow Aug 2015 #9
I have begun to discover why local government gets nothing done either daredtowork Aug 2015 #7
excellent post passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #10

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
2. I have begun to study
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 08:50 PM
Aug 2015

Buddhism and one of the essential doctrines of that religion/philosophy (take your pick) is impermanence. As I understand it so far as a newbie, nothing is as solid as it appears. Impermanence means everything changes. Nothing stays the same. Everything is changing all the time and this is reason for hope.

drmeow

(5,023 posts)
11. That was my response
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 12:33 AM
Aug 2015

That and - finally, someone who has done a beautiful job articulating some of my core frustrations with capitalism!

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
4. This needs to be posted in full
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:31 PM
Aug 2015
Foundations distract from how wealth creation works, by making it appear that philanthropists are doing people a favor out of the goodness of their hearts. This hides the fact that the wealth they have amassed was not simply the result of their own cunning or ability—it was made possible by all the people who worked for them, not to mention the public infrastructure made possible by taxpayers.


Yes, foundations, do some good things, but it also takes the focus off why these people have so much money they can run a foundation (probably mostly run on charitable giving by others)...in the first place.

Income inequality leaves us with "foundations" to help the disenfranchised...if they are lucky enough to qualify for those handouts. There are too many who don't get the help they need.

caraher

(6,279 posts)
6. Important point!
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:13 PM
Aug 2015

And these foundations allow a few wealthy individuals to have an outsize and not always benign influence on the areas the foundations address (think, for instance, Bill Gates and how his foundation is driving the discussion of education). It is explicitly anti-democratic.

drmeow

(5,023 posts)
8. I went back and forth on which way
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 12:29 AM
Aug 2015

to post it. I ultimately decided to focus on the wealth part cause I felt that the foundation part obscured that point a bit and it happens to be one of my pet peeves (to me corporate taxes are more akin to dividends on the infrastructure development provided by the government). But both points are very valid.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
7. I have begun to discover why local government gets nothing done either
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:52 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Thu Aug 20, 2015, 02:37 AM - Edit history (1)

Even if you live in the most progressive of cities, overflowing with tax wealth in property speculation and tech boom times.

First, as Elizabeth Warren discovered, is the Insider/Outsider problem. You can't get any information as an insider if you criticize anyone or say anything polemical. Everyone will claim they are getting things done by "working with" the system, even though nothing ever happens except some covert personal favor trading. This seems more like some corrupt Third World regime than "getting things done".

Perhaps what they mean is they manage to elevate some of their coworkers to positions of national/International consulting prestige. Their global leadership unfortunately still doesn't get things done at a local level.

The local machines and personal loyalties to people of power (certain big developers for instance) are so tightly wound that people with the most radical social commitments in the world will play games of extreme logical twister to exonerate their special friend - taking personal offense if they are criticized while they assume liberty to pursue other "malefactors". In a room of any 10 people you will find enough criss-crossed personal loyalties to be blocked whichever move you try to make. And no one sees the problem with this. They all think they still have socialist goals and want to get things done. They just casually block and tackle each other and play insider games until all useful intent is frittered away.

This is really starting to piss me off.

It would be one thing if there was a deliberate GOP plot to prevent Democrats from making decent policy moves. It's another when people call themselves Progressives and then don't check their own logjams and corruption.

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