supported through Union training for skilled trades, one after the other, are all hapa Mexican.
All, as Barbara Bush would say, "the little brown ones"

Hispanics. Find what he has said in the past about Social Security or Medicare or other things she cares about.

Of course I do not know what his stance on those things is but he is an R.

I know people who are supporting Trump because they hate the system or are otherwise indifferent. They don't believe in anything he says, just finding a way to express their disgust at a political system they view as farcical.

I have a feeling that Auntie wants big changes and thinks Trump is the only one who's generating excitement for real change. If that's the case, a deep blue liberal would be more thrilled by Bernie's platform, especially since he's moving way up in the polls and public support. If I were you, I'd talk with her about Bernie and show her a couple of his speeches, followed by one of the charts that show how fast he's moving up.

At least it's worth a try.

Yup. The Combover/The Body 2016.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141175365

He is so much nicer than any of those GOPers

any other personality changes

or, as an alternative, accept that people who don't agree with you can vote too

Random people who disagree have never been a problem. My beautiful deep blue Auntie? No fing way I'm walking away from her.

perfect. Mahalo nui.

If she's impressed on immigration, you might google Trump immigration plan to pull up the analyses of the plan that totally destroy it. The cost estimates alone--which range up to $600 billion--are pretty devastating to a candidate who promises to grow the American economy and reduce the debt.

Reducto ad Hitlerum warning but it does have some features in common with that whole nightmare.

my beautiful Auntie.

Ianswer, "That depends on what the meaning of is, is."

Ask her to explain what it "is" they like about him, then debunk them.

Good idea.

If she can tell you exactly what it is he says that gets her
support, you can tell her what it really means in practical
terms... for her loved ones and for the country as a whole.

You need to show her all the Trump racist, sexist, bigoted replies and see if she still likes him.

and he is only 56 (only compared to me)
his wife, now deceased was already to vote for him. I think it is just the loud rude part that attracts people and some people actually believe he is a good businessman instead of a crook. Thank the media for that.

Some people are drawn to Trump because of his blunt talk and willingness to talk about things that most politicians don't want discussed, like the role of money in politics. Sanders is light years away from Trump on most issues but like Trump he seems totally unlike the typical die cut politician that many people are instinctively rejecting lately. Even if you support Hillary or O'Malley or Biden or whoever yourself, Bernie might have the best chance of luring her away from the dark side. Then she might be able to start looking at issues from a Democratic perspective again.

understand, can't make Washington work.


A multi-term US Senator can't understand Washington, but an idiot narcissist can.


I hope to get her there. Will do my best.

My cousin was murmuring about possibly supporting him. This is a sophisticated women with a Ph.d. I don't know if she was serious or trying to take the piss out of me. I'm afraid to email her now!

I'd give you some words, if it wasn't for the risk in getting banned.

Another case in point and many more in comments to this OP.

and how racist and sexist someone can be and be accepted. There seems to be a huge backlash against POC and now women.
Is it the threat of Hillary's success after Obama's that is making them crazy? It feels like it.

There is a slice of America that has been in a rage since November 2008.

They want revenge - they want blood.

People watch that show of his and think he is just grand. They don't care what he says. He is a celebrity and rich and has a pretty wife..blah blah blah.

Whatever it is, chances are tRump has said something mindbogglingly stupid about it.

You could talk to her about it and give your opinion but let her be if that is her decision. Your relationship is much more important than any election.

Okay, now that the high road is taken care of... That piece of shit moron will never be elected anyway so no worries.

Agreed on your first point too. Mahalo.

voters out there.

And I agree;he is POS moran.

... different than everyone else. ( I find that appealing myself, frankly.)

Sanders has done pretty much the same thing.... though he get's 1/15th of the M$M coverage because MSM likes Trump's politics and fears Sanders. ( They SHOULD, btw.).

Has she heard Senator Sanders speak?

First off what state do you live in? If its something like Hawaii, who cares, it will go Democrat regardless of the vote.

Even if its a swing state, its her choice. I would just not worry about it. Trump may not even be in the general election anyway.

He's the only candidate getting round the clock TV coverage. Does she watch a lot of TV? My parents are heavily influenced by TV news and pundits, is she maybe the same?
Not sure why anyone thinks a loudmouth bigoted millionaire would have their best interest in mind. Good luck

Honestly, he just seems like a person who is mentally imbalanced with absolutely no impulse control. Is that someone you would want holding the most powerful office in the world. The thought of it terrifies me.

Otherwise, not so much.

Many Democrats just wanted to shake things up and maybe end the two party system. If trump goes 3rd party, I anticipate the same phenomenon again no matter what he stands for.

She did get really ill a few months ago.

We'll see if she actually registers as a Republican. That will take a big step into strange. She was a Democrat her whole long life.

And for that ignorant gasbag? Unthinkable

that I know who actually say they like what this raging lunatic has to say. I do not understand. If this trainwreck actually wins the presidency we'll be nuked in a week.

wasn't born in Hawaii" BS.

People here knew him very well. His teachers and classmates are still here. It's objectively factually verifiable that he was born here. But he made so much noise and was so emphatic, grandstanding...ye gods, how stupid are we??

Could she be confused as to his current affiliation?

She's a beauty and I love her. We've always seen eye to eye on politics since I was a little kid. She knew Reagan was a fraud, Nixon too, and loved Carter, tolerated Clinton, never thought President Obama could make it but celebrated wildly when he did.

And now this?

I'm down with agreeing to disagree but it's super odd.

She's an adult. Tell her you think Trump is a POS- and why. Adults can disagree, emphatically. Humoring her because she's old is a disservice to both of you.

Of course.

She's 80. We old folks can be incredibly stubborn. It will be better if she makes the decision on her own. I have learned over the years that facts and quotes just don't matter, unless they discover them on their own. My right wing brother has decided he likes Bernie Sanders (not from anything I've told him), he came to that conclusion on his own.

Just let her be and hope she comes around. It's not worth ruining a relationship.

My husband and I are in our late 60's and we would never, ever vote for Trump, however there are certain things I admire about him.

1) Everything is out in the open, no secret donor fundraisers where he makes promises he cannot keep.

2) He's forcing his opponents to spend their money countering his attacks on them, while he continues to make outrageous statements and gets free campaign coverage.

3) He's taking out his opponents one by one so we don't have to.

4) He seems to have neutralized the large campaign donors (Koch Brothers), how long will they continue to support candidates who probably will not be elected.

5) He doesn't seem to be Bible thumping or advocating that everyone carry assault weapons

6) We can live with him staying in the race for a long time, we're in New York State which will most likely stay blue no matter what he does.

Perhaps your Aunt has noticed similar "endearing" qualities. She's 80, she's been around a long time and probably thinks she's seen it all, then along comes Trump. Leave her be, listen when she talks about him and try to find out his appeal for her.

I hope I've been some comfort (probably not) but let's hope she comes around or she's in a state where it just won't matter.

It is much too early to worry what your 80 year old is going to do.