I was floored...both times he won.

Yes, we need to GOTV - excellent post.

But the trick this time is to make such a landslide that they can't steal it.

I fear that Jeb would not have entered the race if the playbook for theft wasn't already in place. Vigiience!

As Thomas Jefferson put it,

"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty"

Amen!

that could be possible, a president worse then Bu$h.......

Terrifying as that is to consider, it's also true, and it could happen. I will never again assume voters can't support someone that obviously unqualified for the position. They can, they have and they will again. Much of our voting population have shocked me repetitively with their ignorance in the past 15 years. I no longer take the fact that they should have at least two functioning brain cells and a natural sense of self-preservation for granted.

I was so disgusted with him starting war. I went to the March For Women's Lives against my ex's (Ex was Republican, Catholic and "pro-life&quot wishes with some friends and it was a life-changing experience. I was soon separated (on the way to divorce - yes!) and becoming my own person.

I was soon involved in the anti-war movement. It was so liberating to be standing by the street with Code Pink activists flashing the V peace sign and getting the peace sign back from drivers. Demanding an end to war. (Got some middle fingers, too, but I didn't care..)

Bush made me a total left-wing liberal. I thank him for that. Beyond that, I think the asshole should be in prison for war crimes.

from evil,' the 'fortunate fall,' and so on). If you were transformed because of Bush's predations, then we can at least say that something good came of it. I salute and celebrate your emergence into the light.

Liberal and loving it!

His election made my husband and I political junkies.

Sometimes I wish I could go back to being not caring about politics.

Bush pretty much radicalized me.

are concerned.

I didn't believe he was genuinely a birther and I don't believe he believes what he is saying about immigration. I believe those two positions he has staked out were ploys to get conservatives to believe he is one of them so he can have a shot at getting the nomination.

That runs contrary to the popular belief that he says what he means, I know.

I don't think he would be worse than Bush. But he could be.

I hope you're right about his stances being ploys. I don't see how he could possibly be an effective President, since he has no governmental experience.

We need to stop him, and that means we need to take him seriously.

... he'd have to be worse then Cheney.

I hope we don't find out.

Whatever Bush's faults - he wasn't a foaming at the mouth bigot. With a Republican House and Senate - he could inflict pain.

Everyone laughed at Reagan.

I wonder, did people scoff at Nixon?

I said, "no one will ever be as bad as Nixon."

--imm

In the sense of not believing that Nixon would win the election. :p

and he had warded off allegations of being less than honest with his "Checkers" speech a few years earlier. So it was entirely believeable that he had a chance at winning-- and he almost did.

In 1968, he really hadn't done anything to resurrect suspicions that he was a crook (after all, he had been out of politics since he lost the 1962 California gubernatorial election to Pat Brown), but he had still been branded a loser. I believe that he wouldn't have won in '68 if his opponent had been Robert Kennedy.

And I gloated as a 17-year old watching Tricky Dick resign. I think my dad hated Nixon even more than I did. I remember something about "good riddance to that crooked sonofabitch."

Then came Zombie King Raygun
Then came Little Boots and his puppetmaster Cheney.

Nixon started to look almost OK by comparison.

I'm acting as if he's one day from the White House until the election is over.

He wasn't elected. The vote was stolen and we all know it.

Gore won the popular vote. But, because we were impotent against the SCOTUS ruling, and because the oligarchy that continued to gain power over the idiots who put that SC in there to begin with, and because the blood-oil soaked corporately funding to run elections are running another football game with a pre-season clown show, I still agree that we get out the vote. But, we get out of our easy chairs in listen to a few things first.

First… Understand that we vote - On. The. Issues. The issues are right in front of 99% of us.

Vice President Gore was VP 8-years and should have handily beat Governor Bush.

have won the presidency without first succeeding a president who had died in office?

Answer: None.

Gore did, however, win a majority of the popular vote.

… because in order to WIN, it takes a majority of votes... Always has ... always will.

So, then, what exactly is the point of saying what SHOULD of happened when what SHOULD HAVE happened was a FAIR election? Has that taken a back seat to what the count SHOULD have been?

Absolutely not. The answer is, you have made NO point in what SHOULD have happened.

in my heart and mind. His arrival at the Presidency was unjust. Let's hope someone like Trump won't have to resort to more right wing undemocratic machinations to get there.

Trump is dangerous.

In Ohio suppressing the vote (misallocating the voting machines)

Are you all ready to have the name TRUMP in neon letters hung over the White House?

No one thought a washed up movie star could be president.

He was elected to be governor of the biggest state in the country and then re-elected.

The only Bush I trust is my own.

True then and true now.

sit it out, and devil be damned. They are very principled. And the Christian Right is the BASE of the GOP.

Think about it: Trump polling at X sounds nice, but there are 10 or more whose combined polling is HIGHER

VOTER REGISTRATION DAY. I'm a registered voter and will vote in CA primary and general election.

GOP apes starting with Reagan and ending with Scott Walker. Need to add Trump. Dang.

GOTV!

At that time, I was working at a very conservative motorcycle company. A place where not only were 99% of my co-workers Republican, the company would also send out emails suggesting how to vote in the upcoming elections—so it was good for the company /good for your jobs. They would even make announcements over the intercom on election day.

I worked in a graphics department (believe it or not, there were no liberal folks in the graphics department, except me), and while working I would listen to NPR most days. NPR would play excerpts of Bush's speeches, and soon I began to hear the term "compassionate conservative." It was at that point that I had felt we could be in trouble—he had a good marketing team. I remember talking to my brother around that time (he was a political science major and lifelong Democrat), and he said, "That'll probably be our next President."

...and I'll tell you, that back and forth Florida voting bullshit-and-lies was HELL to go to work and face each day for a week (or whatever it was).

Anyways, I guess it depended on where you were at that time—in regards to not thinking Bush would become President.

Agree w/what a lot of you are saying (I.e. CA Peggy)..... This is why he must be taken seriously.

...nothing against Hollywood, I lived there for years and loved it!

He was neither a hero nor a cowboy.

Never in a million years did I think he'd ever be governor of California, but sadly, I was wrong...and he was even reelected, for crissake!

change a lot of votes in my opinion. I'm not saying where or how, but that's a lot of money to spend on teevee ads doncha think?

We have to work with the Republican Base to get them outlawed.

The Kansas mathematician showed that Tea Party candidates consistently lost to Establishment Republican candidates in many Republican primary races that were "surprises". Just as Democrats lost races and ground to Republicans consistently in general elections that were "surprises". We can get them to work with us to demand change. We just have to be willing to stand with them in protest to get it done. And, they have to be willing to stand with us.

Both Reagan and Bush had been governors of large states and long active in politics before running for President. They weren't just completely unvetted businessmen with no campaign experience or electoral success.

I think Trump is knowingly spouting bullshit and laughing at the rubes who eat it up, he may act the buffoon but you don't swim in the waters he frequents without having something or other on the beach ball. It's an act, a part he plays and it works brilliantly in that it disarms his opponents into thinking he really is that stupid and responding to him as if he were.

Cruz on the other hand and at least a couple of others are true believers, they scare me a lot more than Trump as far as what they would do as POTUS.

Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to the Carson Administration. Please buckle your seat belts, secure your trays in the seat back and bring your seats to the fully upright position we are anticipating some possible flight disturbances.

He'd never held public office before, he looked like any number of fictional movie villains, and his most notable achievement before running for governor was pleading the 5th in a Medicare fraud case involving his health company.

And yet, somehow, he was elected.

And he then served and did a horrible job, to the point that even Republicans didn't want to associate with him. So I thought to myself, no chance he ever gets re-elected.

And yet, somehow, he was re-elected.

So you'll have to excuse me if I'm less than enthusiastic when asked to subscribe to the whole "Donald Trump, Lord of GOP Chaos" theory. We've learned too many times the enemy of our enemy is usually not our friend.

And President Donald Trump would be the greatest disaster to ever hit this country, hands down.

and the shit goes on. The entire republican party is facing gerrymandering charges and they just shrug and walk away. THis state is nucking futz and going off the deep end quickly. Or it's being bought by big money.

I agree with your other sentiments entirely.

Peace out from Pinellas County.

Not at all. Bush may be a disaster, but it was conceivable he could be President. Trump makes Dubya look OK.

Trump is so ridiculous. Even Dubya had a surface of demeanor appropriate to - well, something. Trump is just a clown.

A comparison to Raygun might be better, but even he had been governor of a state.

I don't want to believe that so many people in this country are that criminally stupid, no matter how many pieces of evidence lie before me.

Get out the vote.

I remember in 1976 when he was considered a joke by the Repub establishment, which was still quite sane and reasonable in those days of yore.

We had better have a good candidate and support them.