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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow does Germany maintain a trade surplus with China?
That's something a lot of people would like to do, so it would be a good idea to figure out how they are doing it.
Germany maintains a positive balance of trade with China. The EU as a whole (which is one common tariff market) maintains a trade deficit with China. Those tariffs are slightly lower than US tariffs with China (for the most part; quantifying that can get very tricky, but they're slightly lower than ours by most ways of counting that).
What makes a few countries like Germany and the Netherlands maintain a positive balance of trade with China, while the rest of the EU and the US maintain a trade deficit?
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)to compete in the world economy.
Obviously, German workers have far more benefits and protections compared to US workers, and they do just fine in the world economy.
There are a number of factors at play, I think. In the US, most large companies are publicly traded, and all they care about is making this quarter's numbers. I've worked with a number of German firms, even many large ones are family-owned, and the emphasis is much more on long-term strategy than short term numbers. So German companies produce outstanding products that are engineered without cutting corners.
Other factors, too.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Yup.
They also have a legal framework that requires labor to have a voice on corporate boards, and strong labor unions. I'd take either of those, but both would be ideal.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)You'll like it here.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Keep everything the same, all our low taxes, all our union-busting hurdles, etc. Just change that one law, and require that labor have a voice, even a relatively small one, on corporate boards.
As it is, when an American company is doing OK, holders of equity have all the say and labor and holders of debt have no say.
Once the company fails, holders of debt have all the say and holders of equity and labor have no say.
In Germany, holders of equity, holders of debt, and labor all have a voice on the board at all times in the company. I think that's a much better way to do things and I think it shows.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)lots of big complIcated things.
herding cats
(19,565 posts)I've read the Euro is undervalued for the German economy. Which is stronger than many of the other members of the zone. Which in turn gives Germany an advantage were trade is concerned. Germany also has strict regulations on how much can be spent on imports. It's actually a source of contention in the eurozone since it's seen as hampering growth/recovery for other members there.
I could have this totally wrong, I'm not an economist by any stretch of the imagination.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I'll see if I can find anything about that.
I do think the currency issue has a lot to do with it; it's also a lot of why Greece and Portugal are having such problems right now (and Puerto Rico on our end of the pond). And if that's it, it's gotten a lot worse in the past few weeks with the multiple Yuan devaluations, sadly.
herding cats
(19,565 posts)I read something about it when the semi-annual currency report came out in April. I've slept quite a bit since then, and sometimes forget important details.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)If Germany had the Deutschemark it would be a different story--Chinese goods would be cheaper in Germany, and German goods would be more expensive in China.
But, since Germany has the same currency as Spain and Greece, it reaps the benefit of a weaker currency than it would have otherwise.