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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 01:13 AM Aug 2015

American Family Association Director Sandy Rios: Liberals Bringing Soviet 'Sexual Chaos' To America

The American Family Association’s Sandy Rios invited anti-marriage-equality activist Ryan Anderson onto her radio program to promote his new book “Truth Overruled,” written in reaction to the Obergefell decision.

Anderson repeated his lament that marriage equality is a “symptom” of the “disintegration of marriage and family” that began with “the hookup culture, the rise of premarital sex, the rise of non-marital childbearing, the rise in the divorce rate, the redefinition of divorce laws with no-fault divorce laws.”

Rios agreed, saying she had been distraught in the decades since the 1960s watching the “fabric of our morality” tear, with “everyone acting out on their own sexual whims in any way they chose, and not wanting boundaries for themselves or anybody else.”

“It’s sexual chaos," she said, "which is what the left has been proposing since a long time ago, in fact back in communist Russia, and then the Weather Underground in the ‘60s wanted to practice, smash monogamy. It was the destruction of the family. I don’t understand that, but it is absolutely their goal and they’ve really done a good job of it.”

- See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/sandy-rios-liberals-bringing-soviet-sexual-chaos-america#sthash.xtm7VnMS.dpuf

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American Family Association Director Sandy Rios: Liberals Bringing Soviet 'Sexual Chaos' To America (Original Post) big_dog Aug 2015 OP
Sexual chaos? Where can I sign up? redgreenandblue Aug 2015 #1
Sure. And telling people they need to marry the first person they have sex with, Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #2
Soviet Union divorce rate was lower than USA muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #3
Best Russian band ever! JHB Aug 2015 #4
. LiberalElite Aug 2015 #6
Hilarious! TheKentuckian Aug 2015 #8
They would do punk overs of the Red Russian Army Chior Javaman Aug 2015 #12
I think they play the Troubadour this weekend. Initech Aug 2015 #17
Wonder when Sandy will show up on the Ashley Madison list? hobbit709 Aug 2015 #5
Gee, this sounds a lot like LiberalElite Aug 2015 #7
Uh-oh. She must think Bristol Palin is a Soviet agent. tanyev Aug 2015 #9
These people are just pissed they aren't getting their way anymore A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #10
Oh, just suck it up, buttercup gratuitous Aug 2015 #11
Josh Duggar is liberal? Huh. randome Aug 2015 #13
These morons get the vapors at the very thought of any intimacy. . . kevinbgoode1 Aug 2015 #14
Another domestic terrorist group judging Americans by some wacko cult standard. Rex Aug 2015 #15
They would ban sex if they could. nt kelliekat44 Aug 2015 #16

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
2. Sure. And telling people they need to marry the first person they have sex with,
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 04:27 AM
Aug 2015

is such a GREAT recipe for lifelong, happy monogamy.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
3. Soviet Union divorce rate was lower than USA
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 04:36 AM
Aug 2015
With a rate of 3.4 divorces per 1,000 people, the Soviet Union was second only to the United States (4.8 divorces) among industrialized countries in 1986. David Lane has asserted, however, that the real family disintegration rate between these two countries was comparable because the legal difficulties and expense of a divorce in the Soviet Union encouraged "unofficial" divorces or separations.

http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-12553.html

So, thanks to the free market in legal services in the USA, and communist bureaucracy, divorce was slightly more common in the USA, though the desire for it may have been about the same.

Living Married in the U.S.S.R.
Foreign Notes
By BARBARA A. SLAVIN, July 18, 1972

Young Soviet marriages have a rather poor survival rate. Marriage at 19, divorce at 23--often with a young child left in the breach--is the all-too-common scenario.

In recent years the divorce rate has risen so sharply that it is now comparable with U.S. figures--2.6 per thousand in the Soviet Union, 2.9 per thousand in the U.S. According to the July 11 issue of Boston After Dark, the Soviet rate is now seven times that of Romania and four times that of Great Britain.
...
The Soviet government itself also has a hand in the pro-marriage propaganda campaign. It has replaced the religious service of pre-revolutionary days with an equally elaborate state ceremony which takes place in a "palace of marital union" (dvorets brakosochetanija), complete with flowers, music, speeches by Soviet officials, etc.

Unlike most countries in the world, the Soviet Union would like to increase its birth rate. The official pro-marriage stance and the scarcity of birth control devices clearly reflect this desire. Last week's B.A.D. notes that authorities are alarmed about the rising divorce rate "not so much out of moral indignation as from concern about the declining birth rate."

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1972/7/18/living-married-in-the-ussr-pyoung/

Soviet Divorce Rate Alarming, Report Says
July 07, 1986|United Press International

MOSCOW — The Soviet Union's divorce rate is showing an "alarming increase," with only 37% of marriages surviving three years and 70% breaking up within a decade, the Moskovskaya Pravda newspaper said Sunday.

The number of divorces in the Soviet Union, which has a population of 275 million, has risen from 636,200 in 1981 to nearly 1 million in 1983, the last year for which full statistics for divorce and marriage are available, the report said.

By comparison, the overall divorce rate in the United States was about 50% in 1985, according to recent statistics.

http://articles.latimes.com/1986-07-07/news/mn-20458_1_divorce-rate

So the picture, for a couple of decades, was that the Soviet Union was alarmed about its divorce rate - it was almost as bad as the USA!!!

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
7. Gee, this sounds a lot like
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 06:53 AM
Aug 2015

what right-wing sanctimonious blowhards do when they're not preaching ye olde "family values."

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
10. These people are just pissed they aren't getting their way anymore
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 08:20 AM
Aug 2015

Christian influence on popular culture has been the norm for 1500 years. They are finally getting some push back and they don't like it one little bit.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. Oh, just suck it up, buttercup
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 08:38 AM
Aug 2015

Good heavens, but these people are just the whiniest losers I've seen in a long time. Sandy Rios has been distraught for 50 years? You want to know something, Sandy? There are people in the world who would love to swap places with you, living a cushy life in an advanced civilization, experiencing your worst days ever would be some of their best days.

By the way, you want to get down on someone for "acting out their sexual whims in any way they chose," perhaps you should invite Josh Duggar or David Vitter on your little program?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
13. Josh Duggar is liberal? Huh.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 08:48 AM
Aug 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]You have to play the game to find out why you're playing the game. -Existenz[/center][/font][hr]

kevinbgoode1

(153 posts)
14. These morons get the vapors at the very thought of any intimacy. . .
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 08:48 AM
Aug 2015

and they have to be mentally and emotionally the "weakest link" in American culture. For a group that constantly clutches their pearls over "freedom" they certainly advocate a rigid, restricted rule of order that revels in victimizing others. They don't have the mental capacity to dig beyond the highly censored and unrealistic portrayals of "family values" in 1950's television, but are firmly convinced that real life should obviously mimic those characters.

Oh, how they yearn for the days when the local authorities would turn their heads as an unhappily married spouse would drunkenly beat their partner and children. Those glorious days when a woman would be scorned if she managed the courage, found the money for an attorney, and had enough evidence to file for a scandalous divorce. And how much happier were the children in those socially forced marriages, where they would grow up listening to their parents fighting constantly and wonder why their lives weren't exactly like those real-life depictions of "family" on television situation comedies.

What a lovely society it was back then - when racial minorities knew their "place" in the community, and women were forced from the factories back to the home after World War II, lulled into expectations of fulfillment by the manufacture of new toasters, and vacuum cleaners, and automatic dish and clothes washers. Trapped in the home in which their only outings were trips to the grocery store, and the socially-sanctioned church attendance each Sunday. I can still remember my hometown, with every business closed on Sunday and neighbors frowning if your family was not going to church.

Such a glorious time - when disabled veterans sold pencils outside the Kresge dime store downtown and men would sneak into the next county to have a beer on Sunday. And when women were taught to suppress their own sexual desires on every Saturday night date, and men taught to have some experience before marriage (and yet women were still supposed to be virginal) - talk about major social dysfunction. Those women who made a "mistake" were branded with such cruelty that they were shipped off to "baby homes" where they were sequestered until coming to term and often forced to give the baby up. . .to support this, our squeaky clean society always had at least a couple of orphanages in any community of size. And the mothers - well, they were branded for life - unsuitable for real marriage, doomed to low paying jobs since they weren't allowed to finish school.

And such a wonderful image of a "fabric of our morality" - women couldn't wear the color red or risk accusation of being a whore; they were encouraged to unnaturally shave their underarms and legs and arms (and men their facial hair), wear nylon stockings, uncomfortable high-heeled shoes to create the illusion of longer legs, lipstick and rouge and eyeliner and mascara - and that was just to work in an office job (or, if you were watching a ideal TV family, to push the vacuum around the living room). Of course, none of these alterations had ANYTHING to do with sexuality. Hell, the entire culture was built on the idea of dangling sex in front of everyone and then yanking it away if anyone dared reach for the prize.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
15. Another domestic terrorist group judging Americans by some wacko cult standard.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 09:06 AM
Aug 2015

America has a Fundie problem...most bigtime.

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