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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 02:23 PM Aug 2015

Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone: Donald Trump Just Stopped Being Funny

Donald Trump Just Stopped Being Funny

Win or lose, Trump's campaign threatens to unleash the Great American Stupid
By Matt Taibbi August 21, 2015

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/donald-trump-just-stopped-being-funny-20150821



So two yahoos from Southie in my hometown of Boston severely beat up a Hispanic homeless guy earlier this week. While being arrested, one of the brothers reportedly told police that "Donald Trump was right, all of these illegals need to be deported."

When reporters confronted Trump, he hadn't yet heard about the incident. At first, he said, "That would be a shame." But right after, he went on:

"I will say, the people that are following me are very passionate. They love this country. They want this country to be great again. But they are very passionate. I will say that."

This is the moment when Donald Trump officially stopped being funny.
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k&r Electric Monk Aug 2015 #1
Part of their strategy, divide and conquer. Hatred is a powerful political tool. L. Coyote Aug 2015 #2
Trump is an ugly and dangerous creep PufPuf23 Aug 2015 #3
conditioned by fox news maindawg Aug 2015 #19
The Frankenstein Monster created by Atwater, Ailes and Rove hifiguy Aug 2015 #21
Luckily... Plucketeer Aug 2015 #4
Y'mean this one? AlbertCat Aug 2015 #9
Indeed, I've always called the American flag (Old Glory).. Plucketeer Aug 2015 #14
It'll depend if they're True Scotsmen... JHB Aug 2015 #25
Not stupid at all, but the American flag is commonly referred to as the "stars and stripes." hedda_foil Aug 2015 #60
Saltier of Crucification of Saint Andrew and the Catholic Diocese on the Fife coast of Scotland. DhhD Aug 2015 #65
Nobody, and I mean hifiguy Aug 2015 #5
Hey Trump. Passionate is not a synonym for suffragette Aug 2015 #6
The best lack all conviction while the worst / are full of passionate intensity starroute Aug 2015 #36
Yeats was brilliant suffragette Aug 2015 #48
Reagan was bad enough roscoeroscoe Aug 2015 #7
Yup. Octafish Aug 2015 #8
yeah sure hfojvt Aug 2015 #10
Are you seriously arguing... ljm2002 Aug 2015 #15
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #37
Give him some credit FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #46
The Nazis blamed the communists and the Jews AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #70
As a woman, I can assure you that the Donald was NEVER Funny as in Entertaining Demeter Aug 2015 #11
Absolutely agree! Chiquitita Aug 2015 #28
Matt Taibbi, and David Korn are two of my favorites. nt Snotcicles Aug 2015 #12
He's got the eyes of a drunk. nt valerief Aug 2015 #13
D-delirium T-tremors. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #33
And a crazy, mean drunk at that. hifiguy Aug 2015 #38
Correction: he's got the eyes of a mean drunk. winter is coming Aug 2015 #39
The ruddy coloring and water retention of one, too, I'd say. He says he doesn't drink, though. MADem Aug 2015 #45
Trump is a teetotaler EL34x4 Aug 2015 #67
I’ve been at several (non-political) cocktail parties he attended and he wasn’t drinking so... dorkzilla Aug 2015 #68
DT was never funny. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #16
Damn right SCantiGOP Aug 2015 #27
What scares me is Punx Aug 2015 #17
Trump, like the rest of the conservative clown car... gregcrawford Aug 2015 #18
This is the stuff fascism is made of. Dog help our country. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #20
The Trump campaign should issue his followers their brown shirts. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #22
With that nice "Made In China" TRUMP label hifiguy Aug 2015 #31
It is amazing narnian60 Aug 2015 #23
God help us... ileus Aug 2015 #24
President Donald Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho Trump corkhead Aug 2015 #26
you left out RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #29
Blammo. hifiguy Aug 2015 #34
us baby. corkhead Aug 2015 #35
I wonder when the MSM RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #30
unintended consequences. $5 orange, $17 broccoli. &10 ICEBERG ONLY, pansypoo53219 Aug 2015 #32
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #40
Trump is the Kardashians with less cleavage olddots Aug 2015 #41
I have one of these laying around somewhere corkhead Aug 2015 #42
The Tea Party evolves left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #43
Matt, who has often been friend to chaos and champion of "fuck you" discourse, has had enough? MADem Aug 2015 #44
sorry Trump, beating a homeless guy is not a passionate act. n/t retrowire Aug 2015 #47
When the bad actor was elected in 1980, mountain grammy Aug 2015 #49
I never thought he was funny passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #50
K & R GP6971 Aug 2015 #51
Most sane Germans probably felt the same way in 1932 when Hitler stopped PatrickforO Aug 2015 #52
And there's Godwin. eggplant Aug 2015 #53
Who is Godwin? PatrickforO Aug 2015 #57
Oh, I get it. Godwin. Don't you think that's a little snarky? PatrickforO Aug 2015 #58
I agree. You mention I.G. Farben which after the war was broken into AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #77
Godwin is a fool and his " law" is an excuse for lazy thinking. hedda_foil Aug 2015 #61
No it does not have to be taken to the point where treestar Aug 2015 #73
I hear you 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #59
He's as funny as this clown: BeanMusical Aug 2015 #54
Am beginning to understand why many people are terrified of clowns. AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #69
Why does GOP "inspiration" always cause someone to get hurt... Beartracks Aug 2015 #55
After reading the article Danascot Aug 2015 #56
In any not quite well-working economy, up to 1/6 of the voting population are Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #62
Did you hear his speech? Talking about an illegal mexican raping and sodomizing a 66 year old woman? classykaren Aug 2015 #63
Could he have early dementia? Really? classykaren Aug 2015 #64
'Make the country great again' is code for 'Make the country all white, all male-dominated again' sinkingfeeling Aug 2015 #66
and being hispanic doesn't mean automatically the guy was treestar Aug 2015 #71
Taibbi's writing is so incisive and brilliant when he says AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #72
Trumpitude treestar Aug 2015 #74
Perfect illustration!!!! AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #75
It's amazing how popular Trump is in the Bible Belt. I guess Jesus just isn't sexy enough for them. AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #76

PufPuf23

(8,791 posts)
3. Trump is an ugly and dangerous creep
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:18 PM
Aug 2015

that panders to the ill-informed, frightened, and self-centered.

Yuck. A national embarrassment.

What is the matter with this country that Trump matters?

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
19. conditioned by fox news
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 04:11 PM
Aug 2015

to the point where the lines between truth and lie has been blurred and some cannot distinguish which is real.
Americans are commonly short sighted also and easy to fool.
Fix news has been doing exactly what the Donald is doing right now for 18 years. Its always been dangerous. The Donald didnt invent the technique and Fix news does not own it. Its fascism , plain and simple. This is what it looks like. They are all fascists.
With their fascist dog whistles like 'anchor babies' and illegals. Attacking poor people on food stamps, thats fascism.
It is this easy to allow these creeps to get into our government.
Its 20 years of hate radio. Its no longer hidden in the closet. Its en vogue to wear your hatred on your sleeve in the conservative party. Then you can go to church and its ok. Your a good person, even if you hate poor people for the crime of being poor. Constantly in poverty. Dirty poor people. They make you uncomfortable . Fix news and the Flush boy have your back.

These people, live in a whole different reality than you and I.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
21. The Frankenstein Monster created by Atwater, Ailes and Rove
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 04:18 PM
Aug 2015

has come to life and is now tearing the castle down on top of them.

They can't back down/run away now because the mob of crazies outside with pitchforks and torches will slaughter them. So they have no choice but to stay in the castle while Trumpenstein destroys it and them with it.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
9. Y'mean this one?
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:33 PM
Aug 2015



That stupid "rebel", KKK flag has the St Andrews Cross on it. Of course lots of those who profess to love their heritage have no idea which flag is which or what they were for.

They're are indeed part of the stupid Taibbi is talking about.


 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
14. Indeed, I've always called the American flag (Old Glory)..
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:52 PM
Aug 2015

the "Stars 'n Bars". But I've been hearing the confederate flag called the Stars n bars too. Thanks you for setting me straight here. I guess I'm part of the stupid. Could we call me "ignorant"? I like the tone of that better.

Now - how many folks are gonna have a clue when I talk about the St Andrews cross?

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
5. Nobody, and I mean
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:26 PM
Aug 2015

NOBODY can sniff the wind these days better than Matt Taibbi can. If he's scared, it's time to be scared.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
36. The best lack all conviction while the worst / are full of passionate intensity
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 04:59 PM
Aug 2015

Yeats called it nearly a century ago.

roscoeroscoe

(1,370 posts)
7. Reagan was bad enough
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:30 PM
Aug 2015

Now we have this. The stupid is loose. "It Can't Happen Here" flavored with celebrity, even worse. Yikes.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
10. yeah sure
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:34 PM
Aug 2015

two guys with long criminal records, are blaming somebody else's words for the violence they chose to engage in.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
15. Are you seriously arguing...
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:54 PM
Aug 2015

...that words from political leaders have no effect on the behavior of their followers? Even when said followers quote said political leader?

No one is arguing that those two thugs are not to blame for what they did. But so is Trump to blame for his contributions to a heightened atmosphere of hatred against immigrants in general, and Mexicans / Latinos in particular. That homeless man could have been a US citizen -- you can't tell by looking at someone whether or not they are a citizen -- although many people do make assumptions based on race. Trump's rhetoric on this topic is completely racially-charged.

Were you equally dismissive of the anti-government rhetoric of the right, when that lunatic flew his private plane into an IRS building in Texas? Did you dismiss the effects of th white supremacist rhetoric that the young man quoted, when he killed 9 people at a historic black church recently? Do you think all of these things happen in a vacuum?

Or is this just a gratuitous "I don't like Matt Taibbi" post?

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
70. The Nazis blamed the communists and the Jews
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 02:18 PM
Aug 2015

Trump is following the same type of script but with different scapegoats.

But other Repugs are also following the script, except without as many of the colorful ("I can't look away.... I can't look away) clown theatrics.


Trump is striking a chord with people who are feeling the squeeze in a less secure world and want to blame someone – the government, immigrants, political correctness, "incompetents," "dummies," Megyn Kelly, whoever – for their problems.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
11. As a woman, I can assure you that the Donald was NEVER Funny as in Entertaining
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:35 PM
Aug 2015

and as for funny-peculiar, he's got lots of company on the male side of the species.

Next!

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
39. Correction: he's got the eyes of a mean drunk.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:02 PM
Aug 2015

I judge someone's character by how they treat "the little guy". Trump gets a big fat F.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
45. The ruddy coloring and water retention of one, too, I'd say. He says he doesn't drink, though.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:24 PM
Aug 2015

Wonder if he means "much?"

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
67. Trump is a teetotaler
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 10:49 AM
Aug 2015

His older brother who he admired greatly died of alcoholism. He claims he's never touched the stuff. Same for drugs. He doesn't even drink coffee.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
68. I’ve been at several (non-political) cocktail parties he attended and he wasn’t drinking so...
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 02:00 PM
Aug 2015

this means he’s arrogant, mean and loud all on his own!

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
27. Damn right
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 04:45 PM
Aug 2015

I remember sitting with a group of friends and laughing as we watched Ronald Reagan say he was running for President in 1976, as if he would ever have a chance.............

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
18. Trump, like the rest of the conservative clown car...
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 04:10 PM
Aug 2015

... is textbook sociopath. Only a complete narcissist devoid of empathy for others could subscribe tothe message of malice that defines the Republican Party.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
20. This is the stuff fascism is made of. Dog help our country.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 04:17 PM
Aug 2015

This profane stanza describes the American right perfectly.

"People are tired of rules and tired of having to pay lip service to decorum. They want to stop having to watch what they say and think and just get "crazy," as Thomas Friedman would put it.

Trump's campaign is giving people permission to do just that. It's hard to say this word in conjunction with such a sexually unappealing person, but his message is a powerful aphrodisiac. Fuck everything, fuck everyone. Fuck immigrants and fuck their filthy lice-ridden kids. And fuck you if you don't like me saying so."




Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/donald-trump-just-stopped-being-funny-20150821#ixzz3jU07zBj8
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RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
30. I wonder when the MSM
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 04:51 PM
Aug 2015

Will reveal his connections and dealings with the mafia? We all know about it in NY, but I don't think that folks in other places do.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
41. Trump is the Kardashians with less cleavage
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:04 PM
Aug 2015

Wirh the income descepancy in the country now what was 15 minutes of fame becomes 15 years of fame . America has corporate dictatorship now so there is no need of a figure head .Our leaders are brands .

MADem

(135,425 posts)
44. Matt, who has often been friend to chaos and champion of "fuck you" discourse, has had enough?
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:22 PM
Aug 2015

Is he maturing? Let's hope so.

When he was running that paper in Russia, he had no trouble disrespecting or exploiting women, acting like a total boor and lout, and finding pretty much everything to be a joke at some level.

PatrickforO

(14,578 posts)
58. Oh, I get it. Godwin. Don't you think that's a little snarky?
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 01:05 AM
Aug 2015

Because there are some deep similarities between what's going on here in the United States and what went on in Germany. I particularly refer to the increasing ascendance of oligarchy, as well as the Koch-engineered welding of the right wing crazy fringe into a political movement in and of itself. I'll remind you that history tells us that when we mix theocracy (which in the case of prewar Germany took the form of ultra-nationalism) with oligarchy (think Krupp and IG Farben), we get fascism.

That, eggplant, is where we're headed if we don't take our heads out of the sand.

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
77. I agree. You mention I.G. Farben which after the war was broken into
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 03:20 PM
Aug 2015

several companies, but with the same corporate culture that existed at I.G. Farben. Just to remind you, I.G. Farben invented the extremely dangerous synthetic concoction called organophosphates, which were first used in chemical warfare (SARIN, SOMAN, TABUN), but after the war were used in over 800 pesticide products.

It wasn't until 1998, over five decades after they had already been in the US market, that a law was passed prohibiting the sale and distribution of OP pesticides for use in homes, lawns and gardens, because of the damage it does to developing brains.

Later scientists discovered that these chemicals destroy critical brain cells in adults as well.

Once you have brain degeneration, it can become chronic and end in dementia and .... well, stupidity.

We're there now.

"America has been trending stupid for a long time. Now the stupid wants out of its cage, and Trump is urging it on. There are a lot of ways this can go wrong, no matter who wins in 2016."


The fastest route of exposure is via the olfactory route -- the nose. That's why many anesthesias are routed through the nose because there is no effective blood/brain barrier in the space between the nose and the brain and entry is instantaneous.

Yep. We're becoming dumb as shit because these products are still sprayed widely in many places, and on crops, and for mosquito control, etc. These chemicals ride on the wind for thousands of miles. We even get the stuff that's sprayed in Mexico, China and other countries. Beware if you live in Georgia or Florida! These are states that use huge amounts of OPs.

You may remember the names of the most popular OP products designed for home use. They would be Dursban, Lorsban, Diazinon--- but there were well over 700 other lesser known product names with the same active ingredient. Many of these products are still stored in peoples' houses, barns, etc.

If you have Malathion stored or sprayed in an environment that's over 77 degrees Fahrenheit, it will become hundreds of times more toxic when it converts into Maloxin. Notice the "mal" at the beginning of the word. In Spanish "mal" means bad. It's the first time I've ever seen even a slight hint of the chem/pharm industry dissing a product with the use of the word "bad".


hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
61. Godwin is a fool and his " law" is an excuse for lazy thinking.
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 02:21 AM
Aug 2015

It can happen here. We pooh-pooh it to our peril.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
73. No it does not have to be taken to the point where
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 02:25 PM
Aug 2015

a person can NEVER see something reminiscent of Nazism. It should not be that we are never permitted to refer to it. Some things actually are like it. Demonizing a group of people and making them scapegoats can and does happen.

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
55. Why does GOP "inspiration" always cause someone to get hurt...
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 12:48 AM
Aug 2015

... economically, or even physically?



====================

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
62. In any not quite well-working economy, up to 1/6 of the voting population are
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 03:52 AM
Aug 2015

susceptible to an appeal on bad manners (voting for the biggest lout with a loud mouth).

In an especially bad economy, thatr number goes even further up.

The danger of Trump's appeal proves anyone right who has warned that there are structural shortcomings in our economic system!

classykaren

(769 posts)
63. Did you hear his speech? Talking about an illegal mexican raping and sodomizing a 66 year old woman?
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 07:27 AM
Aug 2015

I could not believe he was talking like this right in the beginning of his speech children were there.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
71. and being hispanic doesn't mean automatically the guy was
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 02:21 PM
Aug 2015

in the US undocumented. So it shows where these people are coming from. They consider anyone hispanic to be undocumented.

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
72. Taibbi's writing is so incisive and brilliant when he says
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 02:24 PM
Aug 2015

Karl Rove and his acolytes mined a lot of the same resentments to get Republicans elected over the years, but the difference is that Trump's political style encourages people to do more to express their anger than just vote. The key to his success is a titillating message that those musty old rules about being polite and "saying the right thing" are for losers who lack the heart, courage and Trumpitude to just be who they are.


In other words he is getting people to act out their anger. It's O.K. with Trump who at heart is a ruthless thug.

Did somebody from NY say he is associated with the Mafia?

If you have documentation of any sort... it would be welcome here.

Thanks!



"Trumptitude" -- now that is a wonderful play on the asshat's name!

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
76. It's amazing how popular Trump is in the Bible Belt. I guess Jesus just isn't sexy enough for them.
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 02:54 PM
Aug 2015


Wouldn't it be wonderful if someone would make a movie about Jesus that depicted him as a sexual, handsome, smart, funny and clever person capable of strategic thinking and able to escape the plan that the Romans have for him? Ah.... it may be too late for that. But maybe He will come back and try again?



Why continue to depict our hero Jesus as basically this boring buy who speaks in moral platitudes?

Unfortunately in our extremely fucked up and decadent society, Jesus just doesn't have the glitter necessary to hold the attention of a overly-stimulated US public that sees aggression and sociopathic hero action as symbols of super strong manhood and leadership.

I guess that's why I love those old movies about very old men who are expert martial arts masters, who know in advance by superb and highly disciplined training -- exactly when a trap is being laid.

The trap may be on the other side of a door.... but he/she stands there and senses the trap... and does not open the door.



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