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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMatt Taibbi, Rolling Stone: Donald Trump Just Stopped Being Funny
Win or lose, Trump's campaign threatens to unleash the Great American Stupid
By Matt Taibbi August 21, 2015
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/donald-trump-just-stopped-being-funny-20150821
So two yahoos from Southie in my hometown of Boston severely beat up a Hispanic homeless guy earlier this week. While being arrested, one of the brothers reportedly told police that "Donald Trump was right, all of these illegals need to be deported."
When reporters confronted Trump, he hadn't yet heard about the incident. At first, he said, "That would be a shame." But right after, he went on:
"I will say, the people that are following me are very passionate. They love this country. They want this country to be great again. But they are very passionate. I will say that."
This is the moment when Donald Trump officially stopped being funny.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)PufPuf23
(8,791 posts)that panders to the ill-informed, frightened, and self-centered.
Yuck. A national embarrassment.
What is the matter with this country that Trump matters?
maindawg
(1,151 posts)to the point where the lines between truth and lie has been blurred and some cannot distinguish which is real.
Americans are commonly short sighted also and easy to fool.
Fix news has been doing exactly what the Donald is doing right now for 18 years. Its always been dangerous. The Donald didnt invent the technique and Fix news does not own it. Its fascism , plain and simple. This is what it looks like. They are all fascists.
With their fascist dog whistles like 'anchor babies' and illegals. Attacking poor people on food stamps, thats fascism.
It is this easy to allow these creeps to get into our government.
Its 20 years of hate radio. Its no longer hidden in the closet. Its en vogue to wear your hatred on your sleeve in the conservative party. Then you can go to church and its ok. Your a good person, even if you hate poor people for the crime of being poor. Constantly in poverty. Dirty poor people. They make you uncomfortable . Fix news and the Flush boy have your back.
These people, live in a whole different reality than you and I.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)has come to life and is now tearing the castle down on top of them.
They can't back down/run away now because the mob of crazies outside with pitchforks and torches will slaughter them. So they have no choice but to stay in the castle while Trumpenstein destroys it and them with it.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)the Stars 'n Bars flags have all been laundered and folded in wait for their resurrection!
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)That stupid "rebel", KKK flag has the St Andrews Cross on it. Of course lots of those who profess to love their heritage have no idea which flag is which or what they were for.
They're are indeed part of the stupid Taibbi is talking about.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)the "Stars 'n Bars". But I've been hearing the confederate flag called the Stars n bars too. Thanks you for setting me straight here. I guess I'm part of the stupid. Could we call me "ignorant"? I like the tone of that better.
Now - how many folks are gonna have a clue when I talk about the St Andrews cross?
JHB
(37,161 posts)hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)DhhD
(4,695 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)NOBODY can sniff the wind these days better than Matt Taibbi can. If he's scared, it's time to be scared.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)violent and racist.
starroute
(12,977 posts)Yeats called it nearly a century ago.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)The beast still slouches towards Bethlehem.
roscoeroscoe
(1,370 posts)Now we have this. The stupid is loose. "It Can't Happen Here" flavored with celebrity, even worse. Yikes.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)From now on, he's exposed for all to see as the NAZI rat he is.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)two guys with long criminal records, are blaming somebody else's words for the violence they chose to engage in.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...that words from political leaders have no effect on the behavior of their followers? Even when said followers quote said political leader?
No one is arguing that those two thugs are not to blame for what they did. But so is Trump to blame for his contributions to a heightened atmosphere of hatred against immigrants in general, and Mexicans / Latinos in particular. That homeless man could have been a US citizen -- you can't tell by looking at someone whether or not they are a citizen -- although many people do make assumptions based on race. Trump's rhetoric on this topic is completely racially-charged.
Were you equally dismissive of the anti-government rhetoric of the right, when that lunatic flew his private plane into an IRS building in Texas? Did you dismiss the effects of th white supremacist rhetoric that the young man quoted, when he killed 9 people at a historic black church recently? Do you think all of these things happen in a vacuum?
Or is this just a gratuitous "I don't like Matt Taibbi" post?
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)He took the trouble to type words, instead of just a ROFL
AikidoSoul
(2,150 posts)Trump is following the same type of script but with different scapegoats.
But other Repugs are also following the script, except without as many of the colorful ("I can't look away.... I can't look away) clown theatrics.
Trump is striking a chord with people who are feeling the squeeze in a less secure world and want to blame someone the government, immigrants, political correctness, "incompetents," "dummies," Megyn Kelly, whoever for their problems.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)and as for funny-peculiar, he's got lots of company on the male side of the species.
Next!
Chiquitita
(752 posts)His dehumanization of women was never funny.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)I judge someone's character by how they treat "the little guy". Trump gets a big fat F.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Wonder if he means "much?"
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)His older brother who he admired greatly died of alcoholism. He claims he's never touched the stuff. Same for drugs. He doesn't even drink coffee.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)this means hes arrogant, mean and loud all on his own!
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)I remember sitting with a group of friends and laughing as we watched Ronald Reagan say he was running for President in 1976, as if he would ever have a chance.............
Punx
(446 posts)That a significant portion of the population is supporting this based on polls.
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... is textbook sociopath. Only a complete narcissist devoid of empathy for others could subscribe tothe message of malice that defines the Republican Party.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)This profane stanza describes the American right perfectly.
"People are tired of rules and tired of having to pay lip service to decorum. They want to stop having to watch what they say and think and just get "crazy," as Thomas Friedman would put it.
Trump's campaign is giving people permission to do just that. It's hard to say this word in conjunction with such a sexually unappealing person, but his message is a powerful aphrodisiac. Fuck everything, fuck everyone. Fuck immigrants and fuck their filthy lice-ridden kids. And fuck you if you don't like me saying so."
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/donald-trump-just-stopped-being-funny-20150821#ixzz3jU07zBj8
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Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)in the collar, natch.
narnian60
(3,510 posts)to me that Trump never answers a question. He is a master at the blah, blah, blah reply.
ileus
(15,396 posts)corkhead
(6,119 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)The Billy Ray Joe Bob, between the Dew and the Herbert!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)But who are Joe and Rita in this real-life version?
corkhead
(6,119 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Will reveal his connections and dealings with the mafia? We all know about it in NY, but I don't think that folks in other places do.
pansypoo53219
(20,981 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Well done, Matt Taibbi!
olddots
(10,237 posts)Wirh the income descepancy in the country now what was 15 minutes of fame becomes 15 years of fame . America has corporate dictatorship now so there is no need of a figure head .Our leaders are brands .
corkhead
(6,119 posts)It's way too small for me now.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)The Trump storm troopers have awakened.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Is he maturing? Let's hope so.
When he was running that paper in Russia, he had no trouble disrespecting or exploiting women, acting like a total boor and lout, and finding pretty much everything to be a joke at some level.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)mountain grammy
(26,624 posts)I didn't think it could get worse. It just did.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)He's always disgusted me.
GP6971
(31,168 posts)PatrickforO
(14,578 posts)being funny.
eggplant
(3,911 posts)Thread closed.
PatrickforO
(14,578 posts)PatrickforO
(14,578 posts)Because there are some deep similarities between what's going on here in the United States and what went on in Germany. I particularly refer to the increasing ascendance of oligarchy, as well as the Koch-engineered welding of the right wing crazy fringe into a political movement in and of itself. I'll remind you that history tells us that when we mix theocracy (which in the case of prewar Germany took the form of ultra-nationalism) with oligarchy (think Krupp and IG Farben), we get fascism.
That, eggplant, is where we're headed if we don't take our heads out of the sand.
AikidoSoul
(2,150 posts)several companies, but with the same corporate culture that existed at I.G. Farben. Just to remind you, I.G. Farben invented the extremely dangerous synthetic concoction called organophosphates, which were first used in chemical warfare (SARIN, SOMAN, TABUN), but after the war were used in over 800 pesticide products.
It wasn't until 1998, over five decades after they had already been in the US market, that a law was passed prohibiting the sale and distribution of OP pesticides for use in homes, lawns and gardens, because of the damage it does to developing brains.
Later scientists discovered that these chemicals destroy critical brain cells in adults as well.
Once you have brain degeneration, it can become chronic and end in dementia and .... well, stupidity.
We're there now.
"America has been trending stupid for a long time. Now the stupid wants out of its cage, and Trump is urging it on. There are a lot of ways this can go wrong, no matter who wins in 2016."
The fastest route of exposure is via the olfactory route -- the nose. That's why many anesthesias are routed through the nose because there is no effective blood/brain barrier in the space between the nose and the brain and entry is instantaneous.
Yep. We're becoming dumb as shit because these products are still sprayed widely in many places, and on crops, and for mosquito control, etc. These chemicals ride on the wind for thousands of miles. We even get the stuff that's sprayed in Mexico, China and other countries. Beware if you live in Georgia or Florida! These are states that use huge amounts of OPs.
You may remember the names of the most popular OP products designed for home use. They would be Dursban, Lorsban, Diazinon--- but there were well over 700 other lesser known product names with the same active ingredient. Many of these products are still stored in peoples' houses, barns, etc.
If you have Malathion stored or sprayed in an environment that's over 77 degrees Fahrenheit, it will become hundreds of times more toxic when it converts into Maloxin. Notice the "mal" at the beginning of the word. In Spanish "mal" means bad. It's the first time I've ever seen even a slight hint of the chem/pharm industry dissing a product with the use of the word "bad".
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)It can happen here. We pooh-pooh it to our peril.
treestar
(82,383 posts)a person can NEVER see something reminiscent of Nazism. It should not be that we are never permitted to refer to it. Some things actually are like it. Demonizing a group of people and making them scapegoats can and does happen.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)If you can bear it, consider the convergence of these two 'phenomenons'
1) the 'rise of Trump'
2) the epidemic of Killer-Cops
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/21/1384553/-2006-FBI-Report-on-White-Infiltration-of-Law-Enforcement-You-Will-Be-Assimilated
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)AikidoSoul
(2,150 posts)Beartracks
(12,816 posts)... economically, or even physically?
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Danascot
(4,690 posts)it occurred to me that Trump's perfect running mate would be Charlie Sheen.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)susceptible to an appeal on bad manners (voting for the biggest lout with a loud mouth).
In an especially bad economy, thatr number goes even further up.
The danger of Trump's appeal proves anyone right who has warned that there are structural shortcomings in our economic system!
classykaren
(769 posts)I could not believe he was talking like this right in the beginning of his speech children were there.
classykaren
(769 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,460 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)in the US undocumented. So it shows where these people are coming from. They consider anyone hispanic to be undocumented.
AikidoSoul
(2,150 posts)
In other words he is getting people to act out their anger. It's O.K. with Trump who at heart is a ruthless thug.
Did somebody from NY say he is associated with the Mafia?
If you have documentation of any sort... it would be welcome here.
Thanks!
"Trumptitude" -- now that is a wonderful play on the asshat's name!
treestar
(82,383 posts)AikidoSoul
(2,150 posts)AikidoSoul
(2,150 posts)Wouldn't it be wonderful if someone would make a movie about Jesus that depicted him as a sexual, handsome, smart, funny and clever person capable of strategic thinking and able to escape the plan that the Romans have for him? Ah.... it may be too late for that. But maybe He will come back and try again?
Why continue to depict our hero Jesus as basically this boring buy who speaks in moral platitudes?
Unfortunately in our extremely fucked up and decadent society, Jesus just doesn't have the glitter necessary to hold the attention of a overly-stimulated US public that sees aggression and sociopathic hero action as symbols of super strong manhood and leadership.
I guess that's why I love those old movies about very old men who are expert martial arts masters, who know in advance by superb and highly disciplined training -- exactly when a trap is being laid.
The trap may be on the other side of a door.... but he/she stands there and senses the trap... and does not open the door.