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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 04:54 PM Aug 2015

Planned Parenthood Set To Sue The Criminals Behind Edited Video Smears

Planned Parenthood is planning swift retribution against the perpetrators of the deplorable and illegal smear campaign that has been leveled against the vital women’s health non-profit by far-right wing anti-abortion extremists. The Center for Medical Progress, which does not employ any medical professionals, arranged a vast fraud by creating a fake biomedical company in order to attempt to “purchase” fetal tissues, secretly recording interviews with Planned Parenthood officials and then editing the footage to mislead and misrepresent the discussion that actually took place.

Planned Parenthood Executive Vice President Dawn Laguens told The Hill that her organization is set to take action against the CMP: “I absolutely do believe that they have violated laws in terms of how they secured these videos… But the fraud is also in how they have presented them and in the editing.”Several of the videos were recorded in California, where it is illegal to record a conversation without the consent of both parties.

Thirteen states have squandered countless tax dollars on “investigating” Planned Parenthood. Not a single one has uncovered any sort of questionable conduct or misuse of materials. The fetal tissue extracted from aborted fetuses is used in critical medical research, attempting to cure deadly diseases like HIV/AIDS.

The right-wing’s vicious smear campaign against women’s rights and healthcare will ultimately amount to naught. President Obama has already threatened to take action against states that cut Medicaid funds to Planned Parenthood, which are not used for abortions in anyway. Senate Democrats have already stymied one attempt to cut the group’s federal funding entirely. The polls show that Planned Parenthood is more popular among Americans than every single Republican candidate for president. The American people recognize the incredible work that Planned Parenthood does across the world. The non-profit deserves much better than to be besmirched by religious zealots.


http://linkis.com/occupydemocrats.com/wJzKi
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/251626-planned-parenthood-threatens-legal-action-against-makers-of-videos

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Planned Parenthood Set To Sue The Criminals Behind Edited Video Smears (Original Post) kpete Aug 2015 OP
K&R... spanone Aug 2015 #1
Acorn version 2 malaise Aug 2015 #2
There's the rub... Unknown Beatle Aug 2015 #21
Yep, shameful behavior by Democrats, undermining their own cause. Scuba Aug 2015 #39
PP has the finances to make some seats very hot indeed. hifiguy Aug 2015 #3
The lying fuckers of Operation Rescue behind this should be sued to oblivion and their political co-conspirators jailed. This: Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #4
Looks like they just might get RICO'd. Ikonoklast Aug 2015 #17
DEJA VU! cynzke Aug 2015 #41
Wow! Great info, thanks. cui bono Aug 2015 #47
This is to be expected when you are dealing with a party full of lowlives AZ Progressive Aug 2015 #5
Good, I hope they are successful still_one Aug 2015 #6
Sue away and may justice be served. Boomerproud Aug 2015 #7
They can certainly use my donation for that. I hope they win the maximum. nt Hekate Aug 2015 #8
I wish them luck but doubt they will have much luck Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #9
I Think PP's chances are better than that charliea Aug 2015 #13
I hope your right- but I don't think they changed itnenough ediying Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #15
Not Just The Videos! cynzke Aug 2015 #42
Luck? What PP needs need is a good investigator, a competent law firm and a fair judge...read this when you can: Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #23
Crush the infamous thing. nt/ DirkGently Aug 2015 #10
Kill it with fire! hifiguy Aug 2015 #18
Fucking MainStream Media.. busterbrown Aug 2015 #11
Fucking MSM...any cub reporter could have seen through this PP smear with one eye closed. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #24
Its just freaking amazing.. busterbrown Aug 2015 #29
Can I donate to the cause............................ turbinetree Aug 2015 #12
Yes! lsewpershad Aug 2015 #14
Go get 'em, PP sarge43 Aug 2015 #16
This is the right thing to do Gothmog Aug 2015 #19
Good! silverweb Aug 2015 #20
Good, sending PP very auspicious vibes. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #22
excellent niyad Aug 2015 #25
Thanks be to Ceiling Cat shenmue Aug 2015 #26
Great news! nt City Lights Aug 2015 #27
Sue them until they can't be sued anymore, or until they're dead. Whichever comes first. MerryBlooms Aug 2015 #28
Great news. I wish them success. onecaliberal Aug 2015 #30
The right wing always lies. Their true postitions on issues are intolerable to even gullible GoneFishin Aug 2015 #31
Great news! Kath1 Aug 2015 #32
Kick and R BeanMusical Aug 2015 #33
"The non-profit deserves much better than to be besmirched by religious zealots." Hugin Aug 2015 #34
Great! SoapBox Aug 2015 #35
This needs to be done. herding cats Aug 2015 #36
K & R SunSeeker Aug 2015 #37
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #38
Go for it! Get these criminals. Helen Borg Aug 2015 #40
I'm so glad! ananda Aug 2015 #43
If you need to twist the truth to win an argument... thebighobgoblin Aug 2015 #44
K&R. Glad to hear it. senz Aug 2015 #45
I knew they would PatrynXX Aug 2015 #46
Good clg311 Aug 2015 #48

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
21. There's the rub...
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 06:52 PM
Aug 2015

Why was federal funding cut from ACORN almost immediately when it was obvious that the video was edited. That was in 2009 when Democrats controlled both houses.

Republican conservatives made james o'keefe into a semi-hero when he dressed and acted like a stereotypical pimp.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
3. PP has the finances to make some seats very hot indeed.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:05 PM
Aug 2015

The only way to deal with crawling shits like this is to sue them into penury and out of existence, as the women who lost her son to a Klan attack did some time back. She won every nickel they had.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
4. The lying fuckers of Operation Rescue behind this should be sued to oblivion and their political co-conspirators jailed. This:
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:11 PM
Aug 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026997457


"And Roll Call has reported that Republican lawmakers knew about the controversy weeks before it would happen:

Rep. Tim Murphy, a member of the House Pro-Life Caucus and chairman of the Energy and Commerce subcommittee looking into the video, said at a Wednesday news conference he’d seen the clip weeks before. Asked afterward why he and others waited until this week to take action, Murphy struggled for an answer before abruptly ending the interview with CQ Roll Call, saying he should not be quoted and remarking, “This interview didn’t happen.”"

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
41. DEJA VU!
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 08:08 AM
Aug 2015

What is worse is that this happened over fifteen years ago, ending up with a congressional circus type hearing and a FBI investigation. People have forgotten. And it started out the with a sleazy pro-life group called Life Dynamic. They did the same type of distorted undercover videos to claim Planned Parenthood in Kansas along with two bio labs were conducting illegal abortions to SELL fetal tissue/organs. Like the Holly O'Donnell/Stem Express tape interviews, LD had tapes of a man named Dean Alberty who worked for a bio-med company called Anatomical Gift Foundation and they procured tissues samples working at a Kansas PP clinic. He attested to witnessing as sorts of gruesome ILLEGAL abortions performed for the purpose of selling the tissue. Turns out that he was getting paid by Life Dynamic for two years to spy on AGF and PP. Near the end of 1999, 20/20 produced a segment claiming to expose fetal tissue sales using Life Dynamic input. The whole thing culminated into a congressional hearing in typical GOP vs Dem push/shove debate. Witnesses were called or subpoenaed. Some didn't show, but Dean Alberty did and his lack of credibility was exposed. But due to the LD videos and 20/20, congress urged the FBI to conduct an investigation into the allegations of illegal abortion procedures and SALES of fetal tissue. The Kansas Bureau did a lengthy and thoroughly investigation and found no evidence of a crime or violations of the law. The labs and PP were exonerated. If you google and research this topic, PP is constantly harassed with investigations in red states. And google partial birth abortions and you will see links to hundreds of videos alleging to PP abortions crimes. Dozens of pro-life web sites/videos present witnesses to all sorts of gruesome allegations. They are great for raising money, but somehow, these people never go to the authorities with these allegations. Take Dean Alberty for instance. Kansas is probably the leading state trying to shut down PP. If Alberty had taken his claims to the authorities there, they would have launch an investigation, possibly undercover, immediately. He didn't. Instead Alberty go to a pro-life group instead. Can't help but wonder today if/what Ms. Holly O'Donnell is getting paid by Center for Medical Progress...hum?

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
5. This is to be expected when you are dealing with a party full of lowlives
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:18 PM
Aug 2015

A party which abhors and hates ethics and empathy.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
9. I wish them luck but doubt they will have much luck
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:44 PM
Aug 2015

It's like when animal activists get a job on a farm or in a slaughterhouse to expose what's going on. Unless they altered the tapes there is little that can be done- and releasing unedited complete versions probably shields them from claims their editing was damaging.

The violation of 2 party consent laws for recording in CA should be actionable- but that's a criminal violation that the state needs to act on.

charliea

(260 posts)
13. I Think PP's chances are better than that
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 06:01 PM
Aug 2015

The original release of the heavily doctored videos are clearly libelous in my opinion. The release of the complete videos merely proves it. It would be outstanding if case could be made against that Republican rep as he appears to have colluded with the group to commit said libel.

from www.law.cornell.edu/wex/libel

Definition. Libel is a method of defamation expressed by print, writing, pictures, signs, effigies, or any communication embodied in physical form that is injurious to a person's reputation, exposes a person to public hatred, contempt or ridicule, or injures a person in his/her business or profession.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
15. I hope your right- but I don't think they changed itnenough ediying
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 06:32 PM
Aug 2015

To get a win.

Did they edit to only have the most "damaging" parts in the short videos? Of course.

I don't think that is enough unless they can show they claimed the people as individuals said things they did not say.

It's a hard case to win. Hell, dumbass George Zimmerman had a better case than that against NBC for how they edited his 911 tapes and didn't win.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
42. Not Just The Videos!
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 09:36 AM
Aug 2015

The interviews and the narratives on their website also. The last two videos released mainly with Holly O'Donnell being interviewed, are very misleading. On top of that, CMP has a document vault where they show documents from Stem Express and other sources. Stem Express claims O'Donnell stole those documents. One memo shows a tissue order for D. Cohen, Harvard U and it shows Harvard's FEDEX ACCOUNT #. Another lawsuit in the making. Then CMP is opening themselves up to another lawsuit from Stem Express. The video with H. O'Donnell distorts and lies about Stem Express not getting consents from PP patients for tissue donations. This is CRITICAL for their business. Stem Express emphasizes that they comply with the law in all respects INCLUDING consents and they guarantee that their compliance is authenticated by an outside organization (name escapes me) whose rating is recognized in the medical community as a seal of approval. Holly O'Donnell claims her fellow Stem Express co-workers deliberately bypass getting consents (illegal). But in the strict record/paper trail of the law, NO bio-lab, medical research facility (like John Hopkins) or university (dozens) may ACCEPT ANY fetal tissue WITHOUT (by law) a form called the Additional Statement Document....fancy name huh. This document verifies that the tissue was donated and procured in compliance of the law and that no abortion procedure was altered in the process. The doctor has to sign this form. If the medical research facilities were not getting this form, they would be complaining to Stem Express and in the cmp document vault, there is a Stem Express form that CLEARLY DEBUNK's O'Donnell/CMP claims. Stem Express employee's have to note on the form for record purposes, the number on CONSENTS they got, which have to match the donor consent forms. Proves that Stem Express DOES comply with consents. CMP's effort to malign Stem Express could harm SE's reputation and finances. While this is not part of PP's lawsuit, I would think it is relevant to it, to show the patterns of deception by CMP.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
11. Fucking MainStream Media..
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:58 PM
Aug 2015

Hopefully they will follow through on this story.. Jesus H Christ!!

Betcha it will take 2 months before the Right Wing abandon pushing this story.. They know that even with all these counter punches ... the story still has legs..

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
24. Fucking MSM...any cub reporter could have seen through this PP smear with one eye closed.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 07:02 PM
Aug 2015

Which makes the reporting of the smear as not a smear intentional.

And the non-reporting of the opposing truthful view even more vicious and malicious:

http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2015/07/21/abortion-providers-take-legal-action-center-medical-progress-heres/

"An Extraordinary Fraud Has Been Committed"

The lawsuits filed by NAF (National Abortion Federation) and StemExpress give credence to the questions that have been raised about CMP’s deceptive tactics, ideological agenda, and connections to radical and violent anti-choice activists.

Derek Foran, litigation partner with Morrison & Foerster, who is representing NAF in the lawsuit pro bono, said in a statement the he is confident the facts will show that CMP has engaged in an “extraordinary fraud” that was meant to harass abortion providers and endanger women’s access to abortion care.

“We are proud to stand with NAF and its members in the fight against anti-abortion extremists, who have smeared abortion providers and placed them in personal jeopardy, simply for ensuring the constitutional right of women in this country to make their own reproductive choices,” Foran said.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
12. Can I donate to the cause............................
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:59 PM
Aug 2015

YEAH,


A woman, or for that matter a human being has a right to privacy

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
31. The right wing always lies. Their true postitions on issues are intolerable to even gullible
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 08:16 PM
Aug 2015

audiences if they are delivered honestly. So they have to lie or become completely irrelevant.

Hugin

(33,166 posts)
34. "The non-profit deserves much better than to be besmirched by religious zealots."
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 11:16 PM
Aug 2015

This is so true of so many programs both non-profit and government right now.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
36. This needs to be done.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 11:22 PM
Aug 2015

Don't let them off. Sue them into oblivion and make the next ones scared of doing the same unethical crap.

If we don't hold them accountable then there will never be an accounting and they'll keep up these fraudulent tactics forever. Because without actions such as this by Planned Parenthood, these tactics work!

Thank you Planned Parenthood for taking a stand against this unethical practice! I vow to help have your back on this.

 

thebighobgoblin

(179 posts)
44. If you need to twist the truth to win an argument...
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 11:52 AM
Aug 2015

...it's probably a bad argument that you're trying to make.

But that's been a time-honored tactic of the extreme right: cut, splice, and smear. And the worst part of it is that people only seem to remember the lies, not the retractions that come out later.

I feel guilty for my moments of naivete in actually wondering about the veracity of these videos, like the Shirrod and the ACORN hatchet jobs before them. But I just think that from now on I'll have to operate under the assumption that anytime there's a video leaked from some sort of conservative cause, that it's to be considered fraud.

From document shredding, to the deliberate manipulation of military intelligence, to hacking and distorting scientists' emails, to anti-abortion propaganda, republitards dabble in deceit the way the impressionists did with oils.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
45. K&R. Glad to hear it.
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 01:38 PM
Aug 2015

Hope these James O'Keefe types will now back off PP. But I also hope PP keeps its guard way, way up from here on out. Patriarchy is war.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
46. I knew they would
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 02:58 PM
Aug 2015

the moment they began violating a restraining order to boot. not that I'm a big fan of some of what PP does but the ones I know I kept repeating this video series will end up hurting their case than help it and they'd be hypocrites if they continue to buy stuff from the list of 38. Which can be hard since many of them work for said 38 companies and it's the funds from those 38 companies and Donald Trump who support abortions and research. Not taxpayers. But then again and even some of them roll their eyes on this one. There are those (dad) who believe Obama will have a third term and war is coming so the Trump thing is a joke because he'll never be president. so they root for Trump just to show how silly the election cycle in 2016 will be since there are no elections. but civil war. Infowars BS.. WND etc..

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