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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs Trump an "anchor baby"? Was borne by a Scottish immigrant mother. Whole family were immigrants.
"Trump was born on June 14, 1946, in the borough of Queens in New York City. He is the fourth of five children born to Mary Anne (née MacLeod) and Fred Trump, who had married in 1936. His sister, Maryanne Trump Barry, is a former Senior United States Circuit Judge for the U.S. Court of Appeals.[20]
Trump's mother was a Scottish immigrant, born on the Isle of Lewis, off the west coast of Scotland.[21] Trump's paternal grandparents were German immigrants;[22] Trump's grandfather, Friedrich DRUMPF, was a successful Klondike Gold Rush restaurateur who anglicized the family name.[23]
After World War II and until the 1980s, Trump's father claimed the family was of Swedish rather than German origin, because "he had a lot of Jewish tenants and it wasn't a good thing to be German in those days", a nephew told The New York Times.[24] In his 1987 book, The Art of the Deal, Donald Trump continued to claim Swedish heritage.[25][26]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)a legal immigrant?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)The fact she was legal or illegal is irrelevant because the term being used so freely now is a slur and a smear on brown immigrants only, and that is how Trump intended it.
The issue is not legality, it is racism.
The point is the hypocrisy of hating immigrants when your own mother was one!
But a white immigrant is a good immigrant....that is the total message.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)There is a difference
malaise
(269,211 posts)Check it out
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)dumbcat
(2,120 posts)Stupid post. (Not the poster, the post.)
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)And in those days millions of Europeans were coming over in droves. Hmmm...maybe it is really "Europe=good/Mexico=bad". White=yes Brown=no
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)That is the plan, indeed.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)about how Sanders handled the BLM situation. Many of us brought up in white families, neighborhoods, churches need a crash course...and following Bernie has been helpful.
In my training classes I used to say, "You don't know what it is you don't know until you know what it is you don't know." Then, and only then, can progress or education begin.
I was irritated by disrupting the rally, but Sanders handled it very well and it was an education/news commentary we needed to hear.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)a definition for any slur!
It's a slur, slurs have no definition or meaning, except to dehumanize and categorize.
Does not mean everyone has to except the term being used as a slur.
That the media is even debating the meaning of a slur is a slur.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)any other politicians with one US parent and another not? I can. This is way up Birther Alley, Fred.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)+1
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)so if the law is made retroactive his father was never a citizen so he wouldn't be either.
In fact if the law is made retroactive probably 80% of Americans could be deported.
melm00se
(4,996 posts)are not legal in the US.
reading the US Constitution should be mandatory:
Prohibition of federal ex post facto laws: clause 3 of Article I, Section 9 of the United States Constitution
Prohibition of state ex post facto laws: clause 1 of Article I, Section 10
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)The Constitution and precedent are no barrier to a mighty buffoon like Donald Duck --- uh --- I mean Trump.
melm00se
(4,996 posts)his fingers and:
make the sun rise in the west
stop the tide for rising
get elected president
cause rain to fall up
anything else I missed?
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)TahitiNut
(71,611 posts)They don't walk.
Nay
(12,051 posts)that Queens was a foreign country, but I don't think you would get very far.
Please don't post such completely ridiculous stuff. You're embarrassing yourself.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)No one should feel embarrassed by attacking a racist who wants to imprison 11million immigrants based on skin color.
He is a walking embarrassment to humanity!
White immigrants good, brown immigrants bad.....I do not agree.
Nay
(12,051 posts)your raising of that 'point' indicates your ignorance.
To make matters worse, you dilute the very real dangers of a possible Trump victory by indulging in inanities that should be reserved for frothing right-wing stormfront sites.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)No such thing as an "anchor baby" either, whatever defintion you use, is there?
An illegal immigrant woman giving birth in America does not get citizenship because of a borne child...their is no "anchor", it is yet another RW lie the mass media is too lazy or uncaring to say otherwise.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/08/21/the-washington-post-debunks-conservative-medias/205082
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)set quotas for each country in the world. If Trump's mother came from Scotland in the 1930s, with a valid visa, she probably was allowed in the country right away. She was a legal immigrant and not illegal and therefore her child could not be a so-called "anchor baby". The quotas set by the immigration laws back then highly favored northern and western European countries. Germans were allowed in by droves. Italian immigration which was previously about 200,000 a year, was cut to almost nothing. Very few Jews, Slavs, Africans, Arabs, and Asians were allowed in under that Act of 1924 until new legislation in 1965.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)"Anchor mother", it is!
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)Your concept is just fucking stupid. Really. Keep digging and showing off your keen intellect.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)dumbcat
(2,120 posts)dumbshit posts attacking logic and rhetoric and the English language. And twisting facts and context just like a Republican. That gives thinking people a sad.
Not calling YOU a dumbshit, of course, just the ideas in your posts.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)dumbcat
(2,120 posts)and I hope you take heed.
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)But if Trumps mother was a legal immigrant and he was born in the US then he almost certainly is a US citizen. My understanding of the phrase "anchor baby" is that it refers to a child born to someone who is not a legal immigrant, although that child is also a US citizen due to being born here.
treestar
(82,383 posts)it might be that Trump's mother came legally to the US. So would the children of legally present aliens be citizens if born in the US? Trump and his followers might allow for that.
But where they are really being idiots is that if you think it through, eventually the country would have fewer citizens than it did noncitizens. It's shooting ourselves in the foot for no reason other than plain old hatred.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)in the non-white experience...they simply do not see things through the lens of the same life experience, or the same shared historical experience.
Can white folks hearts and minds be changed....yea, I think so, most anyway....but in the meantime it is all about policy changes through legislation that can right the historical wrongs...that can be done with winning elections.