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stopbush

(24,397 posts)
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:31 PM Aug 2015

I think Rs have conceded the presidency in 2016. They're using Trump to shore up their stranglehold

on everything else.

From Congress to state legislatures to governorships, Trumps blatant racism will get out the vote in all of those gerrymandered districts they've created across the country to return Rs to power.

And we as Ds will delude ourselves that having the presidency is the only game that matters, while Hillary or Bernie or Joe comes up against the same obstruction as did Obama, possibly for 8 years.

When will we ever learn?

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I think Rs have conceded the presidency in 2016. They're using Trump to shore up their stranglehold (Original Post) stopbush Aug 2015 OP
I doubt it-- they may have conceded it the last time out, but... TreasonousBastard Aug 2015 #1
It crossed my mind this evening as well. moondust Aug 2015 #2
They probably have Hydra Aug 2015 #3
No. There's not a chance they've conced it this early. SheilaT Aug 2015 #4
That's the only real positive Repubs gain from trump: GOTV cleanhippie Aug 2015 #5
I disagree Sherman A1 Aug 2015 #6
Probably everything we're talking about now LuvNewcastle Aug 2015 #8
You assume a level of organization and direction that is not in evidence. bemildred Aug 2015 #7
They have not conceded anything. Why should they when "white fright" is such a winning strategy? pampango Aug 2015 #9

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. I doubt it-- they may have conceded it the last time out, but...
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:55 PM
Aug 2015

next year is wide open and they've been firing shots at Democrats for a while now.

With the gerrymandering and strength at the state level that they have they will be extremely dangerous, whoever the Pres. candidate is.

They got a piece of shit like W in, and nothing says the country is any wiser now. Built up resentment against Obama may not be very widespread, but it is deep, and they will use it.


moondust

(20,014 posts)
2. It crossed my mind this evening as well.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:56 PM
Aug 2015

Maybe they figure if they follow the guy who makes the most noise and gets the most attention they'll attract some naive young voters who are attracted to noise and shiny things. Following tRump around certainly suggests they're not too interested in policy substance.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
3. They probably have
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 12:01 AM
Aug 2015

But only if it's Hillary Clinton or another DLC type to keep things running for them.

I can't think they want ANYONE close to the position that could rock their apple cart.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
4. No. There's not a chance they've conced it this early.
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 12:46 AM
Aug 2015

For one thing, they'd be buoyed by the thought that Americans are often quite willing to elect the other party to the White House after one guy has been there for eight years.

I sort of suspect that the leaders in the party hope desperately that Trump will go away, but they won't have conceded anything yet.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
5. That's the only real positive Repubs gain from trump: GOTV
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 01:01 AM
Aug 2015

It'll bring out the apathetic conservative vote.

And those are voters that might not bother otherwise.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
6. I disagree
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 05:07 AM
Aug 2015

It is far, far too early to come to any conclusion. 24 hours in politics is an eternity, over a year out........

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
7. You assume a level of organization and direction that is not in evidence.
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 07:09 AM
Aug 2015

Just because they spend a lot of money and make a lot of noise doesn't mean they are well-organized or know what they are doing.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
9. They have not conceded anything. Why should they when "white fright" is such a winning strategy?
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 09:28 AM
Aug 2015

A Trump candidacy would indeed turn out the racist/nativist RW vote in republican gerrymandered districts but the House will be difficulty to win control of (because of the gerrymandering) regardless of who runs. A Trump candidacy would not work as well for republican hopes in the Senate where gerrymandering does not help them.

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