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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumswatching Joe Scarborough in another light...he's still going on about how Trump is
keying in on the fears and concerns of millions of people, having fans flock to his public speeches, "saying it like it is" about outsiders coming into our country to millions of people who "feel the same way" and want to "make our country great again."
And I thought, well, we saw the rise of men in the last century making that same argument and not just in Germany, but also in Italy ("return to Rome's great empire that lasted hundreds of years), Spain (return to its glorious dominion of the world at one time).
I don't care if it's Godwin's law or whatever. It's history. We see history repeat itself. There's plenty of film footage that we can see today...
blm
(113,063 posts)Some of the EXACT same language is being used.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)that says that Trump is gonna fold up and go away at some point. Well, history tells us the same thing happened in Europe of the 'thirties. But some were listening and acting.
spanone
(135,838 posts)joe would be fine with a trump presidency
pampango
(24,692 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)has made our country great. When is someone going to start reframing that and push back?
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I could do that if I wanted to. If someone whose family came in in the late 19th century wants to look down on those coming in the 21st, well I can say my family came here from Scotland in the 18th century but so what? Oh, yeah, mine spoke English...but I don't know that they didn't speak a dialect of English that we would find bewildering...
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)We have a tradition of immigrants coming here throughout history, including the ones who are coming now. Not all immigrants have spoken English, including some of mine who spoke German, Dutch, and Gaelic. My children's father's family came very recently and speak Farsi. I think you are reading way more into what I said than was it was intended to convey.
We can best honor the historical importance of contributions of immigrants by acknowledging that we are still living in that tradition.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)any other person because of my ancestry or whether anyone's people first came over in the 19th century, 18th century, 20th or 21st. We are all immigrants. Period. But I do know some people who insist that their immigrants are somehow "better" than the Hispanic immigrants.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)the clarification.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)back for a second look I find it was intended to be satirical. I've been on juries here where I have just had to ask to be excused because I truly don't know how to take the comment.
Thanks, Skidmore. I'm good...
Sedona
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eShirl
(18,493 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)"Fascism instead supported nationalist sentiments such as a strong unity, regardless of class, in the hopes of raising Italy up to the levels of its great Roman past." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini
See how that fits with Trump's "make America great again"?
edit to add some info about another dictator, Generalissimo Franco of Spain:
"Franco intended to restore Spain to its former glory once the Civil War came to an end, but he soon discovered his country to be as economically damaged and politically divided as ever, and the outbreak of World War II only five months later made his governments grasp on the country even more tenuous. "
http://www.biography.com/people/francisco-franco-9300766
One of the 99
(2,280 posts)Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,575 posts)it's nothing but propaganda. The News Media at one time was informative (I'm old so I mean Cronkite,Severied etc) but now it's morphed into a Conservative Message Machine. The journalists and commentators of the old days would be ripping T-Rump for having no substantive position. Everything he says is a generalization or a catch phrase and todays pundits give him a pass..........
PufPuf23
(8,782 posts)Trump is an attention hog and panderer that has the ego that he will be POTUS if there are enough stupid American voters.
And we will find a new level of awful should Trump be POTUS.
But some will be happy and those happy will not all be stupid, some will be predators set even more free.