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When the proprietor of a Florida-based pornographic website was put on trial in 2008, he was accused of violating community standards. To prove that the operator had done nothing of the kind, his lawyer exhibited Google search data for the region, showing that residents were more likely to go online looking for sex than for apple pie. Pornography, this lawyer implied, was central to community standards, whether or not the community members were willing to admit it. In the process, he suggested that the pleasures we deny ourselveslike those that we would refuse to otherscan reveal a great deal about the forces that move us. Maybe thats why the easiest way to tell a story about sex is to tell a story about repression.
This, at any rate, is the premise of author and attorney Eric Berkowitzs new book, The Boundaries of Desire. Over the course of seven chapters, Berkowitz sets out to explore the last century of sex law, focusing most of all on the ways that our civilization restrains the needs of some while punishing the passions of others. Attentive to changing norms but rarely content with present pieties, he surveys attitudes toward prostitution, homosexuality, pornography, and more. Throughout, he treats desire as a force that has always carried outsize significance because it burns at the intersection of existence, identity, and power.
Censors and scolds have
always found a cheap
pleasure in the very
things they seek to forbid.
Indeed, sex is the most personal of passions, but it is also the one in which the personal becomes interpersonal. Intercourse, as philosophers of sex have known for years, is never far from discourse, and pillow talk may be just as important as everything that precedes it. Speaking about sex by narrating the many attempts to silence it is therefore an almost deliberately paradoxical project. Alas, stories about repression are rarely the most engaging orand this is the important thing where sex is concernedthe most satisfying. But Berkowitz is in the best of bad company. As he shows over and over again, censors and scolds have always found a cheap pleasure in the very things they seek to forbid.
No one knew this better than the notoriously moralistic 19th-century postal inspector Anthony Comstock. While promoting the law that would eventually bear his name, Comstock invited lawmakers to peruse an exhibition of the worst pornography the Victorian era had to offer, referring to it as his chamber of horrors. Displaying these pamphlets and pictures as objects that had to be forbidden, he gave his allies permission to look. Perversely, it was their very enjoyment of these obscenities, Berkowitz suggests, that convinced them Comstock was in the right. Fully sated, Berkowitz writes, the lawmakers approved Comstocks bill.
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daleanime
(17,796 posts)And bookmarked
kcr
(15,318 posts)That is one weak argument. Why would people google more about apple pie? I'm sure plenty of people who've never googled apple pie love it all the same. I sure hope the book is better than that.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)kcr
(15,318 posts)That is a weak argument.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)kcr
(15,318 posts)I've never one time googled apple pie. But I love it. So, not an accurate indication of the level of interest. Where am I failing in the explanation?
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)kcr
(15,318 posts)It just irritated me for some reason
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)He was showing that the very thing they were trying to convict him of, violating Community Standards, was absurd because porn was a major part of the "Community Standards" in that area, as evidenced by the overwhelming use of on-line porn.
A brilliant defense, IMO, as it exposes the hypocrisy of the very people trying to convict him.
kcr
(15,318 posts)Just that that specific argument itself was flawed. The idea of community standards in that context is absurd. Thinking about it I imagine the absurdity of just being involved in such a case would be difficult. But that specific argument is flawed. I guess it would probably be a better idea to start off with another law and a better argument against it if one is writing about how these laws are illogical, because that particular argument isn't a good example of logic.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)If the original argument was flawed, a violation of "community standards", how is it absurd to use that flaw as one's defense, which appears to be the tactic here.
kcr
(15,318 posts)They should use a logical, well reasoned argument. That is my point.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)kcr
(15,318 posts)The argument that how much a thing is googled represents the significance of something in a community is a flawed argument. That is all I meant. People don't equally and proportionately google the same amount about all things and for the same reasons. So, if one wants to make an argument that Thing A means more to a community than Thing B, they should use something other than how much that community googles about it. Ultimately, my point was hoping the book uses better arguments throughout to make points. Because the one about google is lazy.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)I agree that Google isn't the best basis for the lawyers argument, but it speaks to the point he is trying to make.
His point is that the term his client is being prosecuted for (violating community standards) is bogus, because the "community standards" in that area includes the copious consumption of porn by the community, as evidenced by a simple google data search. To prosecute his client on such an ambiguous and arbitrary term like "community standards" is wrong.
I think my point was that I approve of the tactic the lawyer is taking, even though his methodology may be flawed.
kcr
(15,318 posts)To be clear, I'm not supporting such a prosecution. It's just my opinion that there are far better ways to make the point. I realize I'm probably being a bit too technical with this. Like I said earlier, nitpicky The fact it is such an arbitrary term is the reason why getting into details like that is the wrong way to go. Maybe it worked in that instance but it could backfire. It misses the point.