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Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:20 PM Sep 2015

Texas bullet train 'one step' closer to reality

NAGOYA, Japan -- "Plans for America's first ultrahigh-speed rail line are going the right way for JR Tokai, which has been pursuing this export opportunity from the start.

"The project has "moved one step forward," President Koei Tsuge told reporters in Tokyo Thursday. His company, whose formal name is Central Japan Railway, runs Japan's busiest bullet train service -- the Tokaido Shinkansen between Tokyo and Osaka.

"Private enterprise is leading the effort to connect Dallas and Houston with a 90-minute rail link. The company behind the project, Texas Central Partners, recently raised $75 million in its first round of fundraising."

http://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Texas-bullet-train-one-step-closer-to-reality

Note: In the 50+ years since the first bullet train was put in service, JR Tokai (together with its predecessor, Japan National Railways) has gained a reputation for super-safe, super-dependable bullet trains.

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Warpy

(111,319 posts)
2. Good point, but some rich rancher will come out of the woodwork
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:48 PM
Sep 2015

and start greasing palms to get it canceled because it might scare his cows.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
4. There are various places in this country where high speed trains,
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:58 PM
Sep 2015

or even normal but more frequent train service would be wonderful.

Texas is, by all accounts, a very large state with major population centers and is an excellent place to start.

I took Amtrak a year ago from Santa Fe, NM to Portland, OR to visit my son. Wonderful trip. I booked the sleeper car all the way and just loved it. The train from Los Angeles to Portland, the Coast Starlight, has a separate lounge car just for the sleeper car passengers, which also means the regular passengers have more room in their lounge car. My car attendants were wonderful (tipped them well as they deserved), wonderful scenery, excellent travelling companions the whole way. Unfortunately, I can only go east or west from here. There should be train service to Denver and points north, but alas, no.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
7. Yep. Even here in little old New Mexico.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 08:16 PM
Sep 2015

We have a commuter train, the RailRunner that goes from Belen, south of Albuquerque, to Santa Fe. Here's a link to a map:
http://riometro.org/maps/rail-runner-system-map

A while back there was talk of extending it south to Las Cruces and north to Taos, which would be quite nice, but haven't heard anything on that in years now, so it probably won't happen.

It is quite astonishing how many people take the train from ABQ to Santa Fe, and depending on where they get on, it makes enough stops so as to be somewhat less than ideal in terms of travel time. It seems to me there ought to be some limited or express trains during rush hours, but given that the people who planned it probably have zero experience with light rail or train service in any other part of the country, it's not bad. The biggest problem is that there is no late train from ABQ back up to Santa Fe. On a Saturday the very last train leaves downtown ABQ at 8:22pm. On a weekday the last train is at 6:48pm. Not very good scheduling. As a consequence, I've taken it far less than I should have.

DavidDvorkin

(19,481 posts)
8. There's been talk of that along the east side of Rocky Mountains
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 08:22 PM
Sep 2015

Possibly from as far north as Cheyenne to as far south as Albuquerque.

That stretch is growing steadily into a single urban conglomeration, but without rail, its nature will be determined by the automobile.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
9. I hadn't seen that yet, but it would be wonderful.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 08:41 PM
Sep 2015

Then you need to be able to get from Albuquerque to Tucson and Phoenix to the west, and Texas and other southern-lying cities to the east.

I have long understood that the essential reason we don't have very good train service in this country (apart from our irrational attachment to our automobiles and a complete lack of understanding of why we need to subsidize such service) is that other than in the northeast quarter of this country, the cities are too far apart, and the population spread out in a way that tends to mitigate against good rail service. But we still should have it. We should be willing to pay the taxes necessary, just as we pay taxes for the crumbling roads in this country.

Too many people just don't understand how important infrastructure is, and how it doesn't matter if I individually never take a train or drive on a particular road, or have kids in school, but that we ALL benefit from good infrastructure. And public education.

DavidDvorkin

(19,481 posts)
12. It's odd that one of the arguments I hear against such projects
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 09:29 PM
Sep 2015

is that it will result in suburbs being built in what is now open country. What that argument overlooks is that that will happen anyway. Without rail, as I said, the new suburbs will come with new freeways and shopping centers. Rail can result in different and less damaging configurations -- not to mention the lower overall pollution.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
14. I find it expensive. I end up flying because of costs.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 10:26 PM
Sep 2015

If amtrak could become affordable I'd love to take it.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
15. I think time is much more of a factor.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 11:21 PM
Sep 2015

Although costs vary enormously depending on when you book and when you travel, just as with the airlines. I had what amounted to two nights in a moving hotel and all of my meals for one relatively low price. Plus, I arrived quite rested and happy, not grumpy the way flying tends to make us. But that's just my preference.

Recently a friend and I were considering rendezvousing in Santa Barbara, California, and one set of dates gave me a cost of under $200 on the train, and another set of dates made it something like $800. We totally bailed on that trip.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
5. Texas officialdom is famously anti high speed rail
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:59 PM
Sep 2015

or anything good really because of a mixture of whacky beliefs and special interest payola. In this case you can expect landowners and airlines to kill it.

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