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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 01:41 AM Sep 2015

"You take care of yourself and let the other person take care of himself. That is NOT God's plan."

Last edited Sat Sep 5, 2015, 02:51 AM - Edit history (1)

Said by Pope Francis to an audience of immigrants, with a wag of his finger.

In other words, God is not a Libertarian or a tea-party member.

He spent quite a while talking about everyone's responsibility to care for each other. I hope he does the same thing when he addresses Congress in a few weeks.

This is the first segment of the show. The quote above came from a later part, but all the segments had this in common: the Pope interacting in a loving way with people on the margins of American society -- low-income students from an urban school, immigrants from Mexico, and people from homeless shelters.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/pope-francis-asks-chicago-teen-sing-part-33551358

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"You take care of yourself and let the other person take care of himself. That is NOT God's plan." (Original Post) pnwmom Sep 2015 OP
Wait . . . are you telling me? gratuitous Sep 2015 #1
My husband lived in a co-op at college and his brother once tried to tease him pnwmom Sep 2015 #2
I can't wait to see how faux Suich Sep 2015 #3
I hope so, too! Kath1 Sep 2015 #4
Was the Pope invited to speak to Congress as the Head of State or the Head Priest of the Catholic YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #5
The Dalai Lama has given the opening prayer. A speech to Congress is simply that, not a law. WinkyDink Sep 2015 #6
Well that is a matter of opinion YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #8
Attendance at the Congressional speech will not be required and anyone who wants to boycott it pnwmom Sep 2015 #9
The widow, the orphan, and the stranger... Fairgo Sep 2015 #7

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. Wait . . . are you telling me?
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 01:45 AM
Sep 2015

The central message of Christianity is not "I got mine and fuck you?" That's, like, socialism or something!

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
2. My husband lived in a co-op at college and his brother once tried to tease him
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 01:49 AM
Sep 2015

by telling a nun that my husband was living in a "commune."

She said, "it sounds like a convent to me."

 

YabaDabaNoDinoNo

(460 posts)
5. Was the Pope invited to speak to Congress as the Head of State or the Head Priest of the Catholic
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 05:44 AM
Sep 2015

Church?

The Pope is dual hatted in that he has both secular and religious responsibilities and duties but I am of the option that with America having a secular Government his speech to Congress needs to be secular and not religious. We don't invite other heads of other religious groups to speak before Congress. This could sent a very dangerious precedent too, will other religious leaders want parity too when they come to visit Congress?

If Congress is out of session for the day and attendance to the Popes speech is not required and the chamber is being used for the convenience then he can say say what he wants, even hold mass for all I care however it will set into motion the consequence of other religious leaders getting their day with Congress too.

If he is speaking as a Head of State and attendance is required then his speech needs to be totally secular since we are a secular government. Otherwise we will end up with Franklin Graham or some other religious leader getting their day with Congress to give a sermon too.

This Pope has been saying and doing some things I agree with and many others I do not but either way i really don't care what he has to say on anything, he is just another religious dude in a skirt trying to tell women what they can and cannot do with their bodies, which is something I am totally against.

No I am not anti Catholic, but I am anti religion when it comes to government and my personal life. I was raised catholic but I have not had anything to do with the church or any religion in almost 40 years now so technically I am catholic but this is only because the church will not formally release me. Once baptized and confirmed your stuck as a Catholic forever unless excommunicated or formally released like they do in Germany but that is only because Germany requires it because your church is tied to your taxes in some very old fashioned way.

For the record I am an athiest so I really don't care about the Pope at all, but I do recognize that others do and he does do and say some stuff I support so I will support him on that. One of the nice things about being an atheist is that I can think for myself and I am not tied to any specific religious dogma.







 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
6. The Dalai Lama has given the opening prayer. A speech to Congress is simply that, not a law.
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 07:58 AM
Sep 2015
https://www.savetibet.org/dalai-lama-welcomed-by-u-s-congress-makes-history-delivering-opening-prayer/

And FTR, people who ARE religious can, amazingly, also think for themselves.

 

YabaDabaNoDinoNo

(460 posts)
8. Well that is a matter of opinion
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 01:15 PM
Sep 2015

He was also politically limited into what he was allow to do or not no do because of the situation with our besets buddies China.

Entirely different discussion

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
9. Attendance at the Congressional speech will not be required and anyone who wants to boycott it
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 01:40 PM
Sep 2015

would be able to.

I have a feeling John Boehner is wishing he never issued the invitation.

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
7. The widow, the orphan, and the stranger...
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 09:11 AM
Sep 2015

Do justice, love kindness, and walk humbly before the Lord. Wide of the mark on all three.

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