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wndycty

(17,445 posts)
Tue May 22, 2012, 10:14 AM May 2012

You can be a proud anti-war progressive who is proud of the Chicago Police Department, PEACEFUL...

. . .PROTESTERS and Mayor Rahm Emanuel. I am proud of them all.

A shout out to the nurses who protested on Friday to raise taxes on the 1%.

A shout out to the mental health activists who marched to Mayor Emanuel's house to protest cuts to mental health clinics.

A shout out the veterans who gave (threw) their medals back and the anti-war activists who joined them.

A shout out the Chicago Police Department who did an excellent job protecting this city and the PEACEFUL protesters who came to exercise their First Amendment Rights and did.

A shout out to our Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who was determined that this would not be a repeat of 1968 and thanks to his planning as well as leadership that did not happen.

I am proud of my city, my mayor, my police department and the peaceful protesters who made their voices heard.

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You can be a proud anti-war progressive who is proud of the Chicago Police Department, PEACEFUL... (Original Post) wndycty May 2012 OP
I completely agree but this will probably still attract hate so Drale May 2012 #1
the one thing people don't get . . . datasuspect May 2012 #2
Well there are a lot of us liberals here in neighborhoods throughout the city and. . . wndycty May 2012 #3
my point is datasuspect May 2012 #11
And a shout out to this thread which will be peaceful as well. UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #4
Serioulsy RobertEarl May 2012 #5
Maybe...oh, I don't know, some yahoo throwing a Molotov cocktail, maybe? randome May 2012 #8
Ahhhh RobertEarl May 2012 #10
Sometimes protesters get out of hand. Sometimes cops do. Do you dispute that? randome May 2012 #13
Duh..!! RobertEarl May 2012 #14
You may be right. randome May 2012 #15
Any police force bongbong May 2012 #6
Yesterday you were "bothered" by Rahm being "heavy handed" Union Scribe May 2012 #7
I hope other cities learn from the CPD. ieoeja May 2012 #9
Indeed RobertEarl May 2012 #12
I'm proud of the medics who stitched up protesters' heads coalition_unwilling May 2012 #16
Um, this video is quite interesting....(from CNN) Peregrine Took May 2012 #17

wndycty

(17,445 posts)
3. Well there are a lot of us liberals here in neighborhoods throughout the city and. . .
Tue May 22, 2012, 10:39 AM
May 2012

. . .suburbs all over the metropolitan area, so your point is?

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
5. Serioulsy
Tue May 22, 2012, 10:47 AM
May 2012

Saw a video of about 200 cops in war-gear with batons. And that was just in one small space, so imagine such scenes were all over town.

My question is: What were they afraid of?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
8. Maybe...oh, I don't know, some yahoo throwing a Molotov cocktail, maybe?
Tue May 22, 2012, 11:04 AM
May 2012

You know, like the 3 who were arrested were planning? Something like that would cause a stampede -i.e. riot.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
10. Ahhhh
Tue May 22, 2012, 11:21 AM
May 2012

So you are saying the cops are in total fear of a few people?

Didn't they already have custody of the 3?

And may you also be claiming that if the cops were not there, there would have been riots?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
13. Sometimes protesters get out of hand. Sometimes cops do. Do you dispute that?
Tue May 22, 2012, 11:24 AM
May 2012

I'm not at all saying the cops were afraid of 'a few people'. That's ridiculous. I said that if someone threw a Molotov cocktail in a crowd of thousands, that would likely start a riot.

Do you agree with that?

On edit: we may be on different pages with this. You said you saw cops 'in a small space'. I was talking about the cops trying to hold back the thousands of protesters.

I doubt the cops deployed officers to places they had no need to be but I don't know the specific example you cited.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
14. Duh..!!
Tue May 22, 2012, 11:31 AM
May 2012

Yes a molotov cocktail would. Duh!

Lets say that happened and the crowd turned on the cops who wouldn't move. What would the cops do then? They'd beat the crowd back leading to more riot.

This seems to me to be the best reason for fear of the people: That the cops accidentally get in the way.

Therefore cops presence should be more heard and less seen. If cops are not there to get beat up on, they can't be beat up on.

IOW: Less cops is best cops!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
15. You may be right.
Tue May 22, 2012, 11:34 AM
May 2012

I don't know what kind of decision-making goes into these things. I suppose planning for the worst-case scenario is prudent? Maybe that was the thinking?

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
6. Any police force
Tue May 22, 2012, 10:53 AM
May 2012

You can love the police as much as you want, but every police force is a command organization. Orders come from above, and must be followed. If a group of cops is not being as violent in their suppression of Democracy as their bosses want, either they'll receive "get tougher" orders or another group of not-so-friendly cops will be put in their place.

The people who give the cops at the top their orders really don't like protesters much at all....

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
9. I hope other cities learn from the CPD.
Tue May 22, 2012, 11:12 AM
May 2012

The CPD chose *not* to push around the protestors.

- No tear gas
- No pepper spray
- No dogs
- Only one attack on protestors because they refused to stop blocking a street that needed re-opened
- Light (not full) body armor during that attack

And how did the protestors respond?

- Zero property damage
- No molotov cocktails
- No rocks, etc
- With the exception of the one time they refused to vacate a street, they pretty much obeyed the rules. The vast majority of arrests resulted from that one clash.

The Chicago Chief of Police has been all over the local airwaves crediting his officer's restraint and willingness to assist the protestors for the peaceful results. The media keeps replaying a single barricade body surfing back and forth between the two sides because, well, that's pretty much all they got to show. While protestors are criticizing the CPD for the single clash because, well, that's pretty much all they have to complain about. Another plus to their being handled with kid gloves.

I have noticed in the past that protests in Chicago seem really tame. I had opined that the CPD either learned a lesson from '68 or are trying to live down '68. Judging by the comments from the Chief of Police all weekend, it sounds like he is one who learned a lesson.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
12. Indeed
Tue May 22, 2012, 11:24 AM
May 2012

The C police did exercise, relatively, a great deal of restraint and near complete non-violence. See? Non violence leads to non violence.

Other cops should take note.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
16. I'm proud of the medics who stitched up protesters' heads
Tue May 22, 2012, 11:35 AM
May 2012

while themselves under attack (documented in numerous places):

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