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Grind TV has this about a family who defaced a handrail in the Deschutes National Forest.
http://www.grindtv.com/nature/family-vandalized-national-forest/#fcSECVj8TQy8Y2rk.97
According to the man who made the video, he challenged the family about the vandalism, and they just blew him off, asserting their right to do what they pleased.
Im going to put on my grumpy old man hat, and propose this is whats wrong with America. Many people deny any obligation to their fellow citizens, sometimes going so far as to suggest they have some kind of right to do anything they want. Its a free country! I suppose so, if you regard freedom as the opportunity to destroy things that belong to other people. But this is what they dont get, that things like national forests belong to all of us, the citizens, not some overbearing entity they call The Gummit.
onenote
(42,778 posts)MineralMan
(146,336 posts)Good on the photographer.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)After all, these vandals aren't getting fined and 15 minutes of unwanted fame on the web because their behavior is run of the mill.
It's not.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)Whenever I go to a fast food restaurant or some such place, I hear people advocating for the notion that freedom means being able to anything we want, with no concern for anybody else. It leaves me wondering, "What? Are the schools requiring Ayn Rand now?"
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)around the country myself. I was trying to figure out the libertarian notions that currently infest business and much of the right wing and found that true libertarians are very likely a personality type all their own. A small one, mercifully.
Turns out:
Liberals and cons are similar in altruism (will sacrifice for the benefit of others), just the size of the groups they feel responsible for varying -- cons mostly their own tribe, liberals theirs and others.
Libertarians are pretty much lacking in altruism. Their ideology makes being only for oneself a virtue and sign of a truly responsible person.
Liberals and conservatives are similar in believing in a range of moral principles, many of which vie for top importance.
Libertarians put personal liberty on its own pedestal, with any other morals they ascribe to very much lower in importance. Making a virtue of "being able to do anything we want, with no concern for anything else." And, of course, they are the responsible, worthy ones by so doing.
You know, if you'd accused Americans of being infected with hypocrisy, I'd have real trouble arguing against that.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)using the word "probity" again. It's sadly out of fashion. Today's substitute is "integrity," adhering to one's beliefs. Hitler was apparently the very soul of integrity.
Probity: The quality of having strong moral principles; honesty and decency.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)And fined.
Ilsa
(61,700 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)This is my neighborhood.