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Help get Ahmed out of Texas and into MIT (Original Post) nobodyspecial Sep 2015 OP
During Ahmed's interview with his parents they all mentioned he would be going monmouth4 Sep 2015 #1
UNT has a high school program in Denton. Downwinder Sep 2015 #3
TAMS is for juniors and seniors. tammywammy Sep 2015 #9
He's a freshman. n/t pnwmom Sep 2015 #24
Looks like it is MIT. Downwinder Sep 2015 #26
Yes, that's his dream college. TAMS is for high school students. tammywammy Sep 2015 #34
My brother, who graduated from MIT, said Downwinder Sep 2015 #40
K&R! nt steve2470 Sep 2015 #2
His dad is the leader of the Sufi Muslim community, he's a businessman... Shandris Sep 2015 #4
What makes you think that? Laffy Kat Sep 2015 #6
The success of the parents is a key indicator in who can go to college... Shandris Sep 2015 #13
OK. Get where you're coming from now. Good points. Laffy Kat Sep 2015 #17
Oh I totally relate with that, I went to try to... Shandris Sep 2015 #18
You know how they say that youth is wasted on the young? Laffy Kat Sep 2015 #19
My biggest problem with college Egnever Sep 2015 #43
You have no idea how hard MIT is to get into, even for top students. pnwmom Sep 2015 #25
According to the coverage there was discussion about charging him with making a "hoax bomb" PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #27
Have a conspiracy theory you're dying to get off your chest? nt geek tragedy Sep 2015 #15
Oh I wish I'd heard a good one! Shandris Sep 2015 #16
Just donated. Laffy Kat Sep 2015 #5
Horrible idea yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #7
A little reality here please... CincyDem Sep 2015 #8
I agree! LynneSin Sep 2015 #22
Is he capable of going to MIT? Renew Deal Sep 2015 #10
Plus, he's 14. tammywammy Sep 2015 #11
yeah, but if it went to get him to a good private high school, that's fine by me. nilram Sep 2015 #41
I'm not sure what "Texas doesn't deserve Ahmed" means. tammywammy Sep 2015 #42
How about the Bronx H.S. of Science first? WinkyDink Sep 2015 #12
His family would need to move to NYC nt geek tragedy Sep 2015 #14
It would be a bit of a long commute, but then again... PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #28
So MIT is CLOSER TO TEXAS??? WinkyDink Sep 2015 #36
MIT at least has dorms for students. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #37
I'm not sure putting wired guts of a commercial alarm clock into a box at 14 is exactly MIT level linuxman Sep 2015 #20
"literally took the shell off an alarm clock and put it in a box" PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #29
The pic. linuxman Sep 2015 #30
So I searched for the pic and this is the one the police apparently released... PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #32
Now there's a gofundme for this? cwydro Sep 2015 #21
Maybe he doesn't want to get out of Texas melman Sep 2015 #23
On Chris Hayes last night , Ahmed said octoberlib Sep 2015 #31
I have often wondered by minorities malaise Sep 2015 #33
Most people who are not born there and not broke live in Texas for $$, employment. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #35
Still stalking I see malaise Sep 2015 #38
I'd rather we find ways to make opportunities available to the thousands of kids like him who would Brickbat Sep 2015 #39

monmouth4

(9,708 posts)
1. During Ahmed's interview with his parents they all mentioned he would be going
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:46 PM
Sep 2015

to another school. Details were not available but no more at the old school.

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
40. My brother, who graduated from MIT, said
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 09:34 AM
Sep 2015

the only reason they had undergrads was so they could call it a university.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
4. His dad is the leader of the Sufi Muslim community, he's a businessman...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:19 PM
Sep 2015

...and is well known even nationally. I highly doubt Ahmed is going to have any problem going to any college he desires, and was never going to have trouble doing so in the first place.

Something isn't right with this story, and it's more than just the silliness of the police.

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
6. What makes you think that?
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:32 PM
Sep 2015

The success of Dad is irrelevant. You know something we don't? Do tell. Not trying to incite anything, just curious.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
13. The success of the parents is a key indicator in who can go to college...
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:03 AM
Sep 2015

...unless that's changed? I confess it may have, it's been a long time since I (foolishly) thought about trying to go to college.

But aside from that...if the school thought it was a bomb, why wasn't the school evacuated? If the POLICE thought it could be a bomb, why was there no bomb squad? That's what makes me think there could be more to this, but what that 'more' is...I have no clue. And I admit I could be completely wrong, too. It's just odd.

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
17. OK. Get where you're coming from now. Good points.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:14 AM
Sep 2015

As for the college thing: There is no way in hell we could afford the small private college my youngest attends. He got there on scholarships. His dad took 20 years to finish his undergrad; I never finished mine. We are absolutely working class. Where there's a will... as they say.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
18. Oh I totally relate with that, I went to try to...
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:29 AM
Sep 2015

...go to a small local college and, well, let's just say that at the rate I was saving money, I would have graduated sometime around 20015. No, that's not a typo lol.

But yes, you're right on that will and the way part. Now that I'm older, I actually would like to go to college, but since I can learn for free I'll take option instead. Of course, it doesn't have that nice diploma, but...the self-satisfaction is well worth the effort too (and I get to miss out on all the campus social things, which is a bonus to a homebody like me; the only 'butterfly' in my social life is on my avatar!)

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
19. You know how they say that youth is wasted on the young?
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:34 AM
Sep 2015

I think higher education is wasted on the young. I flunked out of college in my first year when I was 19; but going back to take courses now that I'm older, I love it. Totally different experience. I no longer care about the diploma, I just take classes that interest me. Hopefully I'll never stop.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
43. My biggest problem with college
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 01:51 AM
Sep 2015

Was the forced classes. I get that they are trying to give you a well rounded education but good lord when I was 19 I wanted none of that. I wanted to take the classes I was interested in and they were having none of it till I took a few years of crap I couldn't care less about. I totally get it now but at the time it was infuriating and it drove me out of college into the work force.

I have since taken quite a few of the courses I was interested in. Many of them just auditing them with no credit or grade and have enjoyed them immensely.

Good for you for just learning for the sake of learning.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
25. You have no idea how hard MIT is to get into, even for top students.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 02:31 AM
Sep 2015

I know a girl who had perfect SAT's and a perfect GPA and didn't get in. They could fill each class three times over with students like that.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
27. According to the coverage there was discussion about charging him with making a "hoax bomb"
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 04:48 AM
Sep 2015

so apparently no one thought it was any type of actual bomb.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
16. Oh I wish I'd heard a good one!
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:11 AM
Sep 2015

If I had, I'd have let you know in some kind of very obvious, heavy-handed manner like usual. But no, nothing more than what I mentioned above sadly.

Maybe we could play with the 'he ran for President of Sudan' thing, add in a bit of OBAMA IS A MUSLIM AHMAGAWD, and say that...President Obama is planning to build the world's biggest golf course for retired presidential muslims in the Sudan with the express purpose of moving forward the global climate change crisis because its really a diversion to funnel money to a solar power company?

...I think I could probably get a few people I know to bite on that, actually...

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
7. Horrible idea
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:33 PM
Sep 2015

Let him finish high school (maybe somewhere else), date, have fun with friends. He's 14, he does not need to hang with 20 year olds.

CincyDem

(6,371 posts)
8. A little reality here please...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:44 PM
Sep 2015


First of all, what happened to his kid is insane and could only happen in a country that has made "anti-science" as American as...well...apple pie.

And there's no doubt that he's a smart kid, but how about we let him get into MIT based on his capability. The fact that he build a digital clock at age 14 isn't an express train to MIT. It says he's a hell of a smart kid with a lot of possibility. If he's going to get into MIT, how about we wait for him to post a 3200 SAT and a 32 ACT with 5's in all his AP classes. Let's not anoint him because some right wing asshat cop didn't like the fact that a brown skinned teen kept telling him a circuit board with some number was a clock. Obviously, Ahmed should have let the white kid carry the clock into school.

istandwithahmed - but I'd like him to stand where he wants to stand based on what he wants to do.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
22. I agree!
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 01:05 AM
Sep 2015

Ahmed needs to enjoy been a kid first. MIT can wait until he is old enough. But if funds are raised I hope they are put aside until he is ready to go to school.

Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)
10. Is he capable of going to MIT?
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:53 PM
Sep 2015

Is he even interested? Adversity is part of life and his adversity was relatively minor. I think he can earn MIT on his own.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
11. Plus, he's 14.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:56 PM
Sep 2015

He's a few years away from college. Since this money goes directly to the father, technically it could be used for anything.

nilram

(2,888 posts)
41. yeah, but if it went to get him to a good private high school, that's fine by me.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 09:36 PM
Sep 2015

Or even if it paid for a moving truck out of Texas.

Texas doesn't deserve Ahmed, and Ahmed certainly doesn't deserve Texas.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
42. I'm not sure what "Texas doesn't deserve Ahmed" means.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 10:13 PM
Sep 2015

I say this as someone in Texas (specifically the DFW area, where Irving also is) that works with some fantastically brilliant engineers every day at work.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
12. How about the Bronx H.S. of Science first?
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:01 AM
Sep 2015

Most Nobel prize-winning graduates of any school in the country.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
28. It would be a bit of a long commute, but then again...
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 04:51 AM
Sep 2015

I didn't even want to commute to school by subway everyday.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
20. I'm not sure putting wired guts of a commercial alarm clock into a box at 14 is exactly MIT level
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:52 AM
Sep 2015

He literally took the shell off an alarm clock and put it in a box. Curiosity is great and commendable and should be encouraged, but suggesting he's shown MIT level promise is laughably asanine.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
29. "literally took the shell off an alarm clock and put it in a box"
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 04:54 AM
Sep 2015

Do you have a source for that claim?

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
30. The pic.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 05:06 AM
Sep 2015

It is exactly what you find in a comercial clock when you open it, right down to the backup battery connector, the circuit board, and the clock face with mounting points for the case ittself. the electrical plug to put in the wall is there. The clock face is the real giveaway. It would be the same as setting up the parts of a desktop pc outside the case and declaring you built a computer. I commend his curiosity, but pouring coke into a glass doesn't mean you made a softdrink.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
32. So I searched for the pic and this is the one the police apparently released...
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 06:30 AM
Sep 2015


Looking at the picture closely I would say that you appear to be correct.
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
21. Now there's a gofundme for this?
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 01:04 AM
Sep 2015

I understood his father is a successful businessman.

Everybody is out to make a buck.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
31. On Chris Hayes last night , Ahmed said
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 05:28 AM
Sep 2015

his dream was to attend MIT. Hayes had on a professor from MIT who invited Ahmed to the MIT campus and offered to personally give him a tour. So maybe she'll mentor him. I'd rather wait to see if he gets accepted to MIT before I donate any money. He'll probably be eligible for scholarships.

malaise

(269,093 posts)
33. I have often wondered by minorities
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 06:33 AM
Sep 2015

choose to live in these RW communities - there is no job offer that would tempt me to live among racists and zealots. The entire family should find a new state.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
35. Most people who are not born there and not broke live in Texas for $$, employment.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 08:53 AM
Sep 2015

You do in fact live among bigoted zealots who frequently attack minorities they despise. Jamaica is the most dangerous place in this hemisphere for LGBT. You just compartmentalize that which is what all people do when they live among bigoted zealots. You look at the good around you, which is what the Texans do as well.
What you are saying is that you live in a place where you are more comfortable with the flavor of zealous bigotry than you are with the Texas flavor. That's all.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
39. I'd rather we find ways to make opportunities available to the thousands of kids like him who would
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 09:31 AM
Sep 2015

also like to go to space camp or MIT or at least have a robotics class at school or a trumpet that isn't over 30 years old. This kid is getting opportunities only because something terrible happened to him. There are thousands of students that are having terrible things happen to them, and because of their own lack of luck these terrible things are not going viral, and so no one will know about it.

People want to help this kid. There are thousands of others who also need help. We can help them by properly funding schools, dismantling racism, addressing our bizarre culture of bullying and false security and zero-tolerance for some but not all, and so on. It's easier to give one kid a college education, though; I get it.

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