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OMFG - CNN just called Fiorina on the Planned Parenthood Videos (Original Post) malaise Sep 2015 OP
Finally! Waiting for the other "oh so cautious" and worthless news media to say something. livetohike Sep 2015 #1
Cuomo called JebusEnoughBushes on his brother keeping America safe malaise Sep 2015 #2
Kept everyone safe except kacekwl Sep 2015 #5
Don't forget New Orleans malaise Sep 2015 #6
And DC sniper. nt awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #17
And the anthrax attacks…. Ezlivin Sep 2015 #22
oh, what are a few minor bumps in the road? Add ISIS to the list wordpix Sep 2015 #52
Not to mention all the now sick, dying, or dead first responders and volunteers who were tblue37 Sep 2015 #23
Also those who died, were maimed, have PTSD+ a million refugees for BushCo wordpix Sep 2015 #55
Thank goodness! hamsterjill Sep 2015 #15
Yea, I do that too.. kacekwl Sep 2015 #50
Sorry I missed that! n/t livetohike Sep 2015 #21
don't forget the Anthrax angryvet Sep 2015 #33
good, first thing I thought of when ! said his brother kept us all safe - how 'bout 9/11 wordpix Sep 2015 #42
When I heard that last night I knew it was an extrapolation of RW radio underpants Sep 2015 #3
How did Fiorina respond? OneGrassRoot Sep 2015 #4
She went along with the edited videos as if they were a Ken Burns documentary malaise Sep 2015 #7
hahah….. blm Sep 2015 #16
Chris Hayes talking tonight about gory footage from a RWnut group - not PPh wordpix Sep 2015 #57
They are sick malaise Sep 2015 #58
I know but our terrible schools turn out kids who can't think critically wordpix Sep 2015 #59
she put on her angry voice about babies getting cut up for body parts sales wordpix Sep 2015 #43
The damage is already done Sam_Fields Sep 2015 #8
Unfortunately, you're right. Once the meme is out there, facts don't change it. nt valerief Sep 2015 #9
Yep--many RWers still believe they found WMDs in Iraq, and those who don't tblue37 Sep 2015 #24
Except that one in five American women have been to a PP facility at some point in their lives. CTyankee Sep 2015 #26
You're overlooking the denial factor. When I was younger, I didn't know any young woman who hadn't valerief Sep 2015 #34
we used to joke at PP that there were women on those picket lines back in the day who CTyankee Sep 2015 #47
Yep, denial is a big thing with them. nt valerief Sep 2015 #49
Just like ACORN. . B Calm Sep 2015 #13
Precisely but remember this has nothing to do with ideology or religion malaise Sep 2015 #19
Bingo. Case in point. nt valerief Sep 2015 #48
The is The Best They Got??? Gamecock Lefty Sep 2015 #10
Her description was very graphic lunatica Sep 2015 #11
When is the Movie coming out? AlbertCat Sep 2015 #18
Either Hillary, Bernie or Biden, if he runs will be the evil doctor lunatica Sep 2015 #20
yes the repukes love graphic abortion descriptions, I think it brings them to wordpix Sep 2015 #44
Why don't they do this on the entire debate? Omaha Steve Sep 2015 #12
It would take too long. The fact checker would have to interrupt .. aidbo Sep 2015 #30
Facts do not matter to this crowd. hamsterjill Sep 2015 #14
Planned Parenthood should sue Fiorina. Vinca Sep 2015 #25
+1! And no shit! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #27
+2 B Calm Sep 2015 #28
+1,000 malaise Sep 2015 #29
CNN's truther police solemnly judged the LIE, "true, but misleading". I am not making that up! Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #51
Thanks for this. Been out and just sat down to rant about Carley and didn't see your post till now. kelliekat44 Sep 2015 #31
so where's the rant? Cruella is waiting for another point in the polls wordpix Sep 2015 #60
cnn and now abc....they're protecting the donald spanone Sep 2015 #32
They've been shamed in calling those lies malaise Sep 2015 #37
good news...they should BE ashamed, but that lot last night knows nothing about shame. spanone Sep 2015 #39
True but they are not going to get away with this malaise Sep 2015 #40
i HOPE she is getting booked on every possible 'news' show to defend PP spanone Sep 2015 #41
Spreading inflammatory rhetoric & lies while running for the highest office is incredibly irresponsi riversedge Sep 2015 #53
The videos that have stirred up so much trouble for Planned Parenthood don’t show what @CarlyFiorin riversedge Sep 2015 #54
Thanks for this malaise Sep 2015 #56
repugs want magic cures and not stem cell cures wordpix Sep 2015 #61
So far, no comments on NPR re: Planned Parenthood b.s. Just that Fiorina "won." Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #35
How does a LIAR win??? malaise Sep 2015 #38
By setting perameters and terms of "debate." GOPers have done this for years. Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #46
These are Republicans LittleBlue Sep 2015 #63
as The Donald says, "She's surging with 2%" wordpix Sep 2015 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #35
She portrayed PP clinics as Dr Frankenstein's laboratory LittleBlue Sep 2015 #62

livetohike

(22,148 posts)
1. Finally! Waiting for the other "oh so cautious" and worthless news media to say something.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 10:06 AM
Sep 2015

I won't hold my breath.

malaise

(269,091 posts)
2. Cuomo called JebusEnoughBushes on his brother keeping America safe
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 10:12 AM
Sep 2015

and reminded everyone that 9/11 happened under his 'watch'.

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
5. Kept everyone safe except
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 10:47 AM
Sep 2015

That one time on 9/11 and that one time in Iraq and that one time in Afghanistan. I bet all the dead from 9/11 and all the dead from the illegitimate wars are happy to hear they were kept safe.

tblue37

(65,442 posts)
23. Not to mention all the now sick, dying, or dead first responders and volunteers who were
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:44 PM
Sep 2015

promised that there was no danger in working at Ground Zero without any protection from the hazardous air, since the Bush administration assured everyone that the air was perfectly safe to breathe.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
15. Thank goodness!
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:06 PM
Sep 2015

When the Jebster said that last night, I started yelling at the television! What a crock!

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
42. good, first thing I thought of when ! said his brother kept us all safe - how 'bout 9/11
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 01:52 PM
Sep 2015

Georgie Boy was out there cutting brush instead of working with Richard Clarke et. al. on
"bin Laden determined to strike inside US"

underpants

(182,844 posts)
3. When I heard that last night I knew it was an extrapolation of RW radio
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 10:17 AM
Sep 2015

I was sure that there wasn't video but I had heard a different version before. Apparently a PP worker in Louisiana (I think) gave some account that their radio took and enhanced. I don't know what the woman originally said but having listen to RW radio I knew that they were embellishing

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
4. How did Fiorina respond?
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 10:40 AM
Sep 2015

Did they say that the videos in question had nothing of the sort shown in them?

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
57. Chris Hayes talking tonight about gory footage from a RWnut group - not PPh
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 08:56 PM
Sep 2015

Crazy Carly goes off about the full grown fetus getting its brain cut out and this was not PPH footage. They show the gory footage over the sound of the PPH staffer speaking about how harvesting stem cells is done and what it costs.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
59. I know but our terrible schools turn out kids who can't think critically
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 09:07 PM
Sep 2015

and they grow up to be RWnuts

Sam_Fields

(305 posts)
8. The damage is already done
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 11:01 AM
Sep 2015

Many people that watched the debate will think there is a video of Planned Parenthood workers killing a live baby to get it's body parts.

tblue37

(65,442 posts)
24. Yep--many RWers still believe they found WMDs in Iraq, and those who don't
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:46 PM
Sep 2015

think that nevertheless believe they found evidence that the WMDs had been there, but had been transferred to another country justs before we invaded.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
26. Except that one in five American women have been to a PP facility at some point in their lives.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:47 PM
Sep 2015

that's one helluva lot of women (and add to that their families whose female family member had excellent care).

valerief

(53,235 posts)
34. You're overlooking the denial factor. When I was younger, I didn't know any young woman who hadn't
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 01:25 PM
Sep 2015

had an abortion (I know, heteroworld and not religious and abortion is but a small part of PP). Anyway, women still get abortions, but do they tell their husbands/boyfriends about it? Maybe not so much now. In the seventies, an abortion was a good thing, but now it's been twisted into a bad thing.

I'll bet conservative women get their abortions today and *still* root for the freedumb-libertea-makeMerkabetter candidate. It's important to please one's gun-loving, fix-it-with-a-fight male partner. The alternate could be deadly.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
47. we used to joke at PP that there were women on those picket lines back in the day who
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 03:49 PM
Sep 2015

would be out with their signs and pics of aborted babies, and they'd be yelling at the women going into the clinic, then they'd show up themselves for their "problem." They would say "But in my case, it's different..."

Yeah, sure...

malaise

(269,091 posts)
19. Precisely but remember this has nothing to do with ideology or religion
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:15 PM
Sep 2015

it is about defunding liberal organizations and looting the money for themselves and their goons.

Gamecock Lefty

(700 posts)
10. The is The Best They Got???
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:00 PM
Sep 2015

And I love how the pundits after the debate last night were ALL saying how well Carly did and how Trump looked “tired.” Geez, I hated everyone on the stage and even those at the children’s table.

I even noticed Jeb has a smirk like his brother!

We’ll see if polls reflect how the pundits called it.

American politics is a sorry state of affairs. We start so damn early, it takes lots of cash and we all look for “gotchas” to say “see, I told you so!”

Part of me – and forgive me for this – hopes Trump wins the Repub nomination just to stick it to the Bushes, Walkers and Christie’s of the world. And then I hope the Dem nomination kicks his ass from one of his casinos to another!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
11. Her description was very graphic
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:03 PM
Sep 2015

Evidently the embyo had legs and arms that it flailed around in writhing pain while someone said they had to keep it alive so they could harvest the brain.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
20. Either Hillary, Bernie or Biden, if he runs will be the evil doctor
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:20 PM
Sep 2015

Of course, it could easily be Obama, since he's already evil

 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
30. It would take too long. The fact checker would have to interrupt ..
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 01:00 PM
Sep 2015

.. every candidate's declarative statement.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
14. Facts do not matter to this crowd.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:05 PM
Sep 2015

The candidates, including Fiorina, are not interested in facts and real information. They are interested in enflaming their bases and will use whatever nonsense they can find to do just that.

I realize I'm preaching to the choir here, but as a woman myself, I find it particularly offensive that this shit last night came from a woman!

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
51. CNN's truther police solemnly judged the LIE, "true, but misleading". I am not making that up!
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 08:04 PM
Sep 2015

"Lie" is obviously a word banned by the mass media on instruction of corporate bosses.

spanone

(135,852 posts)
41. i HOPE she is getting booked on every possible 'news' show to defend PP
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 01:38 PM
Sep 2015

she should have been on every show this am......

riversedge

(70,256 posts)
53. Spreading inflammatory rhetoric & lies while running for the highest office is incredibly irresponsi
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 08:51 PM
Sep 2015

Cecile Richards Verified account ?@CecileRichards 22h22 hours ago

Cecile Richards retweeted POLITICO

Spreading inflammatory rhetoric & lies while running for the highest office is incredibly irresponsible. #GOPDebate



POLITICO Verified account
?@politico

The videos that have stirred up so much trouble for Planned Parenthood don’t show what @CarlyFiorina claims http://politi.co/1QHiHS0

NO, PLANNED PARENTHOOD VIDEOS DON’T SHOW A FETUS’ HEART STILL BEATING

Carly Fiorina: “I dare Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama to watch these tapes. Watch a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking, while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain.”

The videos that have stirred up so much trouble for Planned Parenthood don’t show what Fiorina claims.

An anti-abortion group, the Center for Medical Progress, has released several videos alleging that the women’s health organization illegally profits from fetal tissue sales. In one video, a former employee of the fetal tissue procurement company StemExpress — which, until recently, worked with Planned Parenthood — alleges that she saw an aborted fetus’ heart beat after a clinician tapped its heart.

That video relies solely on the interview and does not include footage to support her claims.

The group’s undercover videos do show specimens of fetal tissue in some Planned Parenthood clinics, but at no point do they include footage of an entire aborted fetus.

— Rachana Pradhan

http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2015/09/wrongometer-cnn-gop-debate-000246
>>>>>>>>>>>

riversedge

(70,256 posts)
54. The videos that have stirred up so much trouble for Planned Parenthood don’t show what @CarlyFiorin
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 08:52 PM
Sep 2015



Cecile Richards Verified account ?@CecileRichards 22h22 hours ago

Cecile Richards retweeted POLITICO

Spreading inflammatory rhetoric & lies while running for the highest office is incredibly irresponsible. #GOPDebate

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

POLITICO Verified account
?@politico

The videos that have stirred up so much trouble for Planned Parenthood don’t show what @CarlyFiorina claims http://politi.co/1QHiHS0

NO, PLANNED PARENTHOOD VIDEOS DON’T SHOW A FETUS’ HEART STILL BEATING

Carly Fiorina: “I dare Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama to watch these tapes. Watch a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking, while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain.”

The videos that have stirred up so much trouble for Planned Parenthood don’t show what Fiorina claims.

An anti-abortion group, the Center for Medical Progress, has released several videos alleging that the women’s health organization illegally profits from fetal tissue sales. In one video, a former employee of the fetal tissue procurement company StemExpress — which, until recently, worked with Planned Parenthood — alleges that she saw an aborted fetus’ heart beat after a clinician tapped its heart.

That video relies solely on the interview and does not include footage to support her claims.

The group’s undercover videos do show specimens of fetal tissue in some Planned Parenthood clinics, but at no point do they include footage of an entire aborted fetus.

— Rachana Pradhan

http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2015/09/wrongometer-cnn-gop-debate-000246
>>>>>>>>>>>
 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
46. By setting perameters and terms of "debate." GOPers have done this for years.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 02:31 PM
Sep 2015

No secret about this. Democrats, as constituted now, have been afraid to respond, so they fashion a non-ideological non-response, hoping they won't be tagged by the RW again, or to run afoul of their corporate backers. The objective of the RW is to make liberalprogressivedemocrats look weak and undecided. In this milieu, the RW can call you anything they want, and MSM WILL not contremand the RW; in a real sense, it's not their job (esp. in their weakened state) to do this. If one side wants to remain a punching bag, so be it. This, in accordance with Newt a quarter century ago.

Fiorina has learned this well: Talk the same hard talk which appeals to the FR, and expect little static, esp. with the right to choose. Pretty EZ.

Response to malaise (Original post)

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
62. She portrayed PP clinics as Dr Frankenstein's laboratory
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 09:12 PM
Sep 2015

As if Nazi vivisections were being performed. It only needs to fool enough people in the middle who don't pay attention.

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