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Donald Trump says vaccinations are causing an autism 'epidemic'He claimed rates are 'totally out of control'
ALEXANDRA SIMS Thursday 17 September 2015
Donald Trump has linked vaccinations to what he dubbed an autism epidemic during a presidential debate.
Mr Trump, who is the current frontrunner among the Republican presidential hopefuls, claimed autism rates have risen into an epidemic over the last few decades that is totally out of control.
Autism has become an epidemic. 25 years ago, 35 years ago, you look at the statistics, its not even close. It has gotten totally out of control, he said.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-says-vaccinations-are-causing-an-autism-epidemic-10505087.html
WOO! Republicanism will kill us all.
randys1
(16,286 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)But there are a lot of factors involved in that including broader ranges of autism classification.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Although dr Carson is not a good politician, he is a doctor and sorta agreed with spacing vaccines out some but still get them all.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)I don't honestly think vaccinations have anything to do with it
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)The only good I can see from it would be less pain at one time with the needles.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)And help with what? Since there's no link between vaccines and autism, what would be the supposed benefit to spacing them out? There's nothing wrong with the vaccine schedule as is, and spacing out vaccines poses a health risk. It allows for more time during which a child can contract a disease.
gcomeau
(5,764 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)kpete
(71,999 posts)proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)"...the burden of proof is upon anybody who feels that there is NOT a real increase here in the number of kids affected."
- Dr. Thomas Insel, Director of National Institute of Mental Health and head of Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee (IACC)
10:02 AM - 27 Mar 2014
The increase could be a growing number of children with autism or better screening or a combination of both, said Dr. Coleen Boyle, the CDCs director of the national center of birth defects and developmental disabilities.
Related: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014766480
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Dr Insel joins GOOGLE Life Sciences, September 2015:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/16/health/tom-insel-national-institute-of-mental-health-resign.html
http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2015/09/15/google-life-sciences-hires-the-governments-top-brain-scientist/
http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/15/9330249/google-alphabet-thomas-insel-hired-life-sciences-nimh
http://www.ageofautism.com/2015/09/if-the-iacc-had-met-it-would-have-to-consider-the-cdc-whistleblower.html
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)You can push the meme that it's entirely cases--and not better and expanded diagnostic criteria--all you want, but it won't make it any less dishonest.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Oneironaut
(5,509 posts)It is already assumed that vaccinations cause autism before the statement tries to prove that vaccines cause autism.
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zappaman
(20,606 posts)Only one of those things is really fucking embarrassing.
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zappaman
(20,606 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Warpy
(111,298 posts)and wrong about everything.
Of course, no reporter has ever had the courage to ask him where he got his medical degree.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)You think a neurosurgeon didn't go to school? The same doctor who separated a set of twins?
I know you were being sarcastic and getting back at the Repugs who don't believe president Obama went to school either. Silly.
Warpy
(111,298 posts)Now you tell me he went to medical school, too.
What a Renaissance man! Maybe he should be president!
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)percentage of the increase is better diagnosis.
Several decades ago our culture did a better job of tolerating odd people and odd behavior. When my oldest son was first diagnosed with Asperger's, about 15 years ago, and I'd explain Asperger's to people, a surprising number said things like, "That's just like great-uncle Kevin!"
packman
(16,296 posts)1. Were you vaccinated as a child?
2. Were your children vaccinated?
Total asshole
Rex
(65,616 posts)4. What year did you sell your soul to the devil?
proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)ANS: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=115815
Of course, "autism" is not listed on the Vaccine Injury Table of covered vaccines and associated injuries (see column on left):
http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/index.html
http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/vaccinetable.html
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Same reason auto insurance doesn't cover pregnancy.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Somebodies tinfoil hat was clamped down with self-sealing stem bolts!
Rex
(65,616 posts)Chemisse
(30,813 posts)That kind of thing is taken care of by the 'little lady."
Rex
(65,616 posts)OnlinePoker
(5,724 posts)It is a great history of autism and how it used to be diagnosed versus how it is done now.
http://www.wired.com/2015/08/neurotribes-with-steve-silberman/
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)I heard Silberman get interviewed on NPR recently and I look forward to reading his book. It's interesting to note the impact that Rain Man had on the diagnosis of autism.
I really wish both the anti-vaccine and anti-GMO people would cease and desist. Their arguments are unscientific and not at all supported by the facts. When kooky conspiracies, such as the existence of chemtrails, are believed by a tiny fringe element of society, I don't much worry about it. But then there are dangerous ideas that become far too common.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Because we don't have enough people who remember what life was like without vaccines. Those days were not fun.
spanone
(135,854 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,397 posts)ecstatic
(32,718 posts)There is a lot of potentially toxic (yet legal) shit in our environment, unfortunately.