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UTUSN

(70,742 posts)
Wed May 23, 2012, 12:05 AM May 2012

Whew, just finished (reading) CARO's volume 4 of his LBJ biography.

A few months ago circumstances put his project in my way. I had avoided his LBJ thing all these years because almost all of my adult life has been against the backdrop of the KENNEDYs, LBJ, and Vietnam, and I had thought I had, first of all, lived through the events, and then become painfully devastated by Vietnam and then disillusioned with all the personal failings of all of them.

The disillusionment turned into bitter scorn with NIXON, Watergate, and then just total contempt with Shrub. It was always the lingering wilderness of RAYGUN and Poppy, and yes the disappointment of Bill CLINTON's blunting our brief wins with his own JFK self-indulgence above our political agenda.

So, despite that I had purposefully ignored CARO's work, avoided it, and just barely heard snippets about his definitiveness and literary prizes, after the last decade when I had finally put my own life experience behind me and this decade had finally numbed me, I ran across the CARO books in great condition at a used book store, the 2nd & 3rd volumes of which were hardbacks brand new and never read by anybody, at the price of SIX DOLLARS each. And for months the clippings said the 4th was due soon.

So I sighed and jumped in. It was better this way, reading them all in a lump together, the way I have hardly ever followed t.v. series when they were on the air piecemeal, but liked them after syndication when all of the episodes run heel to toe. Plus, while waiting for #4, I read his The Power Broker, about Robert MOSES, where his precursor techniques of staggering detail and context that were familiar from the LBJ books made their debut.

I'm not getting into a review situation here, have done some paragraphs on the earlier volumes. I'll just say that it is a worthy continuation of the CARO achievement. I will say that this volume seems more porous, less dense, even in the physical weight of the physical book itself. The march of technology has apparently developed PHYSICALLY lighter weight of paper and binding. The prior hardbacks and paperbacks of his I handled almost bent my wrists off. This is a feather by comparison. And this is not a disparagement, but CARO seems to fill this volume with a more general, somewhat less intensely detailed, style.

Hookay, so he's (near?) 80 and has Vietnam to go. It's not so much whether HE makes it as ME!1

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hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
1. I just re-read the first three volumes last fall.
Wed May 23, 2012, 12:38 AM
May 2012

Possibly the greatest work of presidential biography that will ever be seen. Can't wait to tie in to volume four.

UTUSN

(70,742 posts)
2. I admire your RE-reading. I can't take that.
Wed May 23, 2012, 12:52 AM
May 2012

I *do* highlight and later use a couple of pinnacle paragraphs for clinchers in discussions, the same couple of paragraphs, the whole of the book boiled down to just that.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
4. There's a good feature on Caro in this month's Esquire.
Wed May 23, 2012, 01:08 AM
May 2012

Somehow I hadn't known about him or his books before, but now I've put The Power Broker on my "to read" list.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
7. Caro says he was harsher on Moses back then because of the times during which he wrote the book
Wed May 23, 2012, 07:10 AM
May 2012

In the mid 1970's, when he wrote The Power Broker, NYC was in a serious economic rut. It was easy to conclude that Moses' carving of neighborhoods with his civic projects was a culprit, but looking at NYC now - possibly in it's greatest era ever - we can see that much of what Moses did has contributed to its rebound in a positive way.

Of course, this doesn't excuse Moses' racism (the comfort station in Harlem adorned with ironwork shaped like monkeys), or his short-sightedness on mass transportation (not putting rail tracks in the median of the LI Expressway). But it wasn't all bad.

The Power Broker should be used as a civics textbook.

UTUSN

(70,742 posts)
8. Wow, he would be less harsh now?!1 It's pretty hard to put the harsh genie back in the bottle
Wed May 23, 2012, 08:48 AM
May 2012

He was pretty clear about the displacement of (what was the number, hundred or hundredS of thousands?) and disposession and the ravaging of what was left of the environment, plus what you say about the racism and the "short sightedness on mass transportation."

He was equally clear about the dimensions of MOSES' achievement as one of the top three builders in history (*all* history), but it's like, uh, weighing with one hand and th'other hand... I guess, for me, CARO did his convincing job really well on me, so now it would be only he who could convince me in a different direction.

Well, by his picking MOSES and LBJ, he has a corner on picking subjects with some really ugly characteristics, and on being able to convey a slice of humanity even in them. I'm glad LBJ got CARO or nothing good about him would even be left.

But there's no quibbling about CARO's impact on us reading him. Our enthusiasm shows, eh?!1

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
9. What I love about Caro is that he doesn't run from complexity.
Wed May 23, 2012, 01:41 PM
May 2012

I still haven't read his LBJ but plan to begin next month. He's got to be one of the best storytellers around.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
12. thank you so much for that link, EFerrari.
Wed May 23, 2012, 03:44 PM
May 2012

One of those things I have been "meaning to do"
and now is the right time.

Reading Caro is demanding, for sure, but worth it.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
6. Great post! I love Robert Caro! I've read 3 of the 4 LBJ books and The Power Broker
Wed May 23, 2012, 07:02 AM
May 2012

He is the great living biographer, bar none!

RFKHumphreyObama

(15,164 posts)
10. Robert Caro is undoubtedly one of the great non-fiction authors of our time
Wed May 23, 2012, 01:45 PM
May 2012

He seems to devote about a decade each to his books about LBJ and, when he releases the final product, it's well worth waiting for. I am slightly embarrassed to confess that I haven't finished reading his earlier volumes of work but I've certainly read enough of his last book, LBJ: Master of the Senate, to know the painstaking and loving care that he puts into his authorship. The latest volume of his work arrived for me last week and, already from the first few pages, I know it's going to be another masterpiece

I really hope he gets to complete his series on LBJ's life. We are so lucky to have him

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
14. Viet Nam era is supposed to be next
Wed May 23, 2012, 03:53 PM
May 2012

but given the concern over Caro's age, and that he might not have been able to finish this 4th book...
crossing my finers he does get the 5th one. In shorter time.

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