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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 05:07 AM Sep 2015

Money Isn't the Only Reason Why Police Have Ignored 80,000 Rape Kits

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/32560-money-isnt-the-only-reason-why-police-have-ignored-80000-rape-kits

After years of sitting on dusty shelves - shamefully ignored by police departments across the country - tens of thousands of rape kits will finally be tested. On 10 September, Vice President Joe Biden and New York City District Attorney Cyrus Vance announced a $79m initiative to start to whittle down the backlog.

Vance said: “I’m saying today to all the women awaiting justice, you are not forgotten ... we will prevent future rapes by taking rapists off the streets, but the grants will do more than test kits - they will provide closure for victims and families.”

But will they? Getting evidence from sexual assaults properly tested and processed is an undoubtedly an important part of the criminal justice system. But fully processed kits are not a magic bullet to putting rapists in jail, and they certainly don’t make amends to victims who have been poorly treated and their cases ignored.

When Michigan State University professor Rebecca Campbell conducted a multi-year study of untested rape kits in Detroit, for example, she reported that it wasn’t just “chronic resource depletion” that led to the backlog - but “police treating victims in dehumanizing ways.”

“[L]aw enforcement personnel regularly expressed negative, stereotyping beliefs about sexual assault victims. Victims who were assumed to be prostitutes were considered to be at fault for what had happened to them. Adolescents were often assumed to be lying, trying to avoid getting into trouble with their families by concocting a false story about being raped. Friends/acquaintances had got‐what‐they‐got because they had chosen to associate with the perpetrator. The fact that all of these victims had endured a lengthy, invasive medical forensic exam seemed to carry little to no weight.”

This shouldn’t be an entirely shocking finding - rape victims have long complained about terrible treatment at the hands of police and the criminal justice system, and we know that rapists overwhelmingly go unpunished in the United States. But there’s more than just a moral issue at hand here. When victims are treated poorly by law enforcement, they’re less likely to trust them with their stories - and they’re less likely to come back. And when victims don’t come back, the police simply don’t follow through on their cases.

This summer, for example, when Louisville Metro Police looked at why some of their rape kits went untested, Special Victims Unit Lieutenant Carolyn Nunn told local media that “a lot of our victims don’t want to go forward.” Without victims’ participation, the police won’t move forward with the case.








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Money Isn't the Only Reason Why Police Have Ignored 80,000 Rape Kits (Original Post) eridani Sep 2015 OP
As far as I'm concerned, the ignoring of rape kits is simply SheilaT Sep 2015 #1
Maybe the decision to use a "Rape Kit" shouldn't be up to the police? delrem Sep 2015 #2
While I like what you said about Universal health care system, Ilsa Sep 2015 #3
Perhaps I was misled by the subject of the OP delrem Sep 2015 #4
In rural communities, small towns duhneece Sep 2015 #7
I've had a rape kit. Ilsa Sep 2015 #11
Why are you attacking me as if I said I wanted to forcibly interfere with women in distress? delrem Sep 2015 #14
Here: Ilsa Sep 2015 #15
Well, OK. BYE! delrem Sep 2015 #16
It's evidence. If the nurse or dr isn't certified, Ilsa Sep 2015 #12
However, if a victim agrees to the procedure, I think mandatory testing.. Omaha Steve Sep 2015 #6
my last paragraph: Ilsa Sep 2015 #13
the rape kit isn't administered by police, but the police get to decide what to do with it. niyad Sep 2015 #17
Exactly. Once the kit has been Ilsa Sep 2015 #18
If those kits contained evidence about the theft of a rich white guy's wallet 99.9% of them GoneFishin Sep 2015 #5
It's about law enforcement priorities. Drug dealers have seizable assets. Taitertots Sep 2015 #8
Hell just look at what they call them: "Rape Kits" (!) GreatGazoo Sep 2015 #9
This is a very good point. Thanks for bringing it up n/t eridani Sep 2015 #19
I hope every victim of rape gets the counceling they need. riversedge Sep 2015 #10
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
1. As far as I'm concerned, the ignoring of rape kits is simply
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 05:23 AM
Sep 2015

one in a very long line of how women have been disrespected and ignored.

If men were raped as often as women are, it would be a totally different thing.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
2. Maybe the decision to use a "Rape Kit" shouldn't be up to the police?
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 06:01 AM
Sep 2015

Maybe it should be mandatory by law and decided by medical practitioners in an universal health care system that protects all?

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
3. While I like what you said about Universal health care system,
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 06:26 AM
Sep 2015

I'm not sure what you mean about the decision to use a rape kit. It isn't administered by police. It is administered by a certified Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner or doctor with the same training in collecting evidence.

This procedure, while generally not too painful (they actually have to pull out pubic hairs), is still emotionally degrading after just having one's person violated. Absolutely no one should be forced to undergo the procedure. It would simply add trauma to a victim who is likely still in shock.

However, if a victim agrees to the procedure, I think mandatory testing, enforced by law, should be the standard. No shelving it. Test it. Get a forensic record.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
4. Perhaps I was misled by the subject of the OP
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 07:00 AM
Sep 2015

"Why Police Have Ignored 80,000 Rape Kits"

That doesn't seem reasonable.
And no, I would never suggest forcible use of rape kits! That's... almost slanderous, and totally off base.

You make it sound as if the victim is necessarily going to get a hostile experience from an universal health care clinic. I'm unsure that having somebody in full dress uniform as a "Certified Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner or doctor with the same training in collecting evidence" is needed, in a well run clinic. This would all be standard procedure, and the doctors would be looking at the person as a patient, and would likely be holding the police and everybody else off while they did their job.

duhneece

(4,113 posts)
7. In rural communities, small towns
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 08:00 AM
Sep 2015

...there may be a small handful of nurses who have chosen to obtain SANE training. It's intense, specialized. A well run clinic could not afford to keep a SANE nurse on staff all the time.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
11. I've had a rape kit.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 01:59 PM
Sep 2015

The nurse was compassionate. But after you've just been raped you don't want a stranger touching you, especially on your labia, vagina, anus, etc. Get the picture? It's a difficult procedure to consent to.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
14. Why are you attacking me as if I said I wanted to forcibly interfere with women in distress?
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 07:56 PM
Sep 2015

I don't get it.
Nothing I said warrants your responses. Nothing.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
15. Here:
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 09:35 PM
Sep 2015
You make it sound as if the victim is necessarily going to get a hostile experience from an universal health care clinic. I'm unsure that having somebody in full dress uniform as a "Certified Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner or doctor with the same training in collecting evidence" is needed, in a well run clinic.


I'm clarifying that evidence-gathering via a rape kit is difficult to endure. I know this from experience.

Your uncertainty about needing a professional gather evidence shows that you don't understand the extent of the trauma victims endure by their perp, and sometimes the police, plus having to endure evidence-gathering. It needs to be done by a pro, or a defense lawyer might be able to get it thrown out.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
12. It's evidence. If the nurse or dr isn't certified,
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 02:02 PM
Sep 2015

A defense lawyer could question its vercity. Also, there are chain of custody issues that must be documented. You can't have untrained people collecting criminal evidence without training.

Omaha Steve

(99,653 posts)
6. However, if a victim agrees to the procedure, I think mandatory testing..
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 07:47 AM
Sep 2015

And mandatory processing with a DNA data base.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
13. my last paragraph:
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 02:04 PM
Sep 2015
However, if a victim agrees to the procedure, I think mandatory testing, enforced by law, should be the standard. No shelving it. Test it. Get a forensic record.

niyad

(113,323 posts)
17. the rape kit isn't administered by police, but the police get to decide what to do with it.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 10:41 PM
Sep 2015

and, as we have seen, what they have decided to do, in nearly HALF A MILLION CASES, is--ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, for all the reasons stated in the OP.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
18. Exactly. Once the kit has been
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 10:59 PM
Sep 2015

Consented to and performed, it should be illegal for the police to sit on it.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
5. If those kits contained evidence about the theft of a rich white guy's wallet 99.9% of them
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 07:15 AM
Sep 2015

would be routinely processed.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
8. It's about law enforcement priorities. Drug dealers have seizable assets.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 08:07 AM
Sep 2015

The police have made a decision to ignore unprofitable crimes.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
9. Hell just look at what they call them: "Rape Kits" (!)
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 08:18 AM
Sep 2015

Why not "Perpetrator identification kits" ? or "Assault Evidence Collection" ?

'Rape kit' sounds like something Bill Cosby would carry. What an insensitive choice of words.

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