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CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 10:23 AM Sep 2015

John Bohner is crying through the Pope's address to Congress…

…because John Bohner knows damn well that his own behavior and the policies and legislation that he champions--are in direct conflict with the Pope, and with the teachings of Christ.

Bohner has been crying throughout this entire address. He just broke down when the Pope addressed war and how many wrongly justify with religion.

Bohner knows. He knows very well that what he is doing is wrong.

No wonder the man drinks.

I am not a religious person. However, I will say this--if the Pope can help warmongering politicians who demonize the poor, the vulnerable, the hungry and those who want to provide healthcare and help to those who need it--then the Pope is doing a good thing.

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John Bohner is crying through the Pope's address to Congress… (Original Post) CoffeeCat Sep 2015 OP
I agree. Boehner knows how dangeous the kooks in his fucked up party really are. I do hope the Pope Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #1
That would be nice... CoffeeCat Sep 2015 #4
When truth and facts and science get to see the light of day I do believe the darkness has no chance Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #6
I don't know Kelvin Mace Sep 2015 #2
Yep. Cry, Drink, Rinse & Repeat lib87 Sep 2015 #13
He's Always Known what fredamae Sep 2015 #3
You can understand what fuels his alcoholism then... CoffeeCat Sep 2015 #5
I agree, however fredamae Sep 2015 #10
Yes, he can come be my neighbor. I'm guessing he'd throw some mean BBQs. Hortensis Sep 2015 #27
If only his crying were for the reasons in the O.P. In his case it's alcohol trauma. n/t UTUSN Sep 2015 #7
I hope those DUers who were skeptical about the Pope now understand Baitball Blogger Sep 2015 #8
This is whyI so dig this Pope LynneSin Sep 2015 #9
Here's why meow2u3 Sep 2015 #11
Screwed up his cigarette & merlot break... Historic NY Sep 2015 #12
Boehner is crying because . . . OldRedneck Sep 2015 #14
I think you are spot on as to Bohner this morning. hamsterjill Sep 2015 #15
I have noticed that Bohner generally cries when he feels convicted by the Sprit. LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #31
Wow! Just wow! CoffeeCat Sep 2015 #32
I was blown away, as well. I just saw the headlines a few minutes ago! hamsterjill Sep 2015 #33
Boehner's Hierarchy: world wide wally Sep 2015 #16
You are more religious and spiritual than you think. There are people in the world who have never litlbilly Sep 2015 #17
Bohner is a drunk. jalan48 Sep 2015 #18
Crying because he missed his Tee time at the 19th hole. kairos12 Sep 2015 #24
Bohner is the one who invited Francis, because they agree on most things. Just as you gloss over Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #19
Boehner is crying from self inflicted wounds: sadoldgirl Sep 2015 #20
John WHO? AlbertCat Sep 2015 #21
Ask not for whom the Boner weeps. TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #22
BWAHAHA lpbk2713 Sep 2015 #23
There's something wrong with Boner... SoapBox Sep 2015 #25
Bohner usually cries when he talks about himself. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #26
What the hell is he crying for? SmittynMo Sep 2015 #28
Just saw this post, Coffee - I posted a similar observation. blm Sep 2015 #29
This John Boehnor has no scruples-------------------none turbinetree Sep 2015 #30

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. I agree. Boehner knows how dangeous the kooks in his fucked up party really are. I do hope the Pope
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 10:26 AM
Sep 2015

is able to shed some light on the extremist Christian and religious/corporate fascist putsch underway and break it's back well before any votes are cast.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
4. That would be nice...
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 10:40 AM
Sep 2015

It would be wonderful to think that the Pope could affect the votes, and help some of these "lost souls" find their way back.

I really don't know how these "religious right conservatives" reconcile their horrifying, evil behavior with what they suggest they believe.

I think that most of them do not really care about religion or God or following Christ. The use God and religion as a device to deceive their base of voters.

It's appalling to see what Christians will go along with--tax breaks for millionaires, programs that cut heating for poor senior citizens, legislation that causes suffering and hunger for kids. It boggles the mind. Not only are these sheep harming the most vulnerable and they are leveraging the rich and the greedy corporations. It truly is bizarre.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
6. When truth and facts and science get to see the light of day I do believe the darkness has no chance
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 10:43 AM
Sep 2015

As for Boehner crying and the comments I see on the thread, unrelated to your comments, I am not a fan of personal attacks on a man that may be the last man standing between a total takeover of the House by religious fanatics, or not.

I would cut him a break.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
3. He's Always Known what
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 10:27 AM
Sep 2015

he stands for is Wrong. But, He. Will. Not. Change. And Defy. Those. Who. Provide. Him (and them) With. More and More Mammon.
The Devil that Guides The Greedy in State and Federal Legislatures, is Literally, In the details.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
5. You can understand what fuels his alcoholism then...
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 10:42 AM
Sep 2015

I think most of these right-wing politicians are sociopaths and psychopaths. They have no feeling for the people they hurt. They don't care if a swipe of their pen causes children to starve and people with disabilities to further suffer. In fact, I think some of them enjoy it.

Bohner, on the other hand, seems to be conflicted and torn up about what he does. He knows it's wrong. He cries.

His behavior may never change, but at least he's more human that the psycho-creeps who control the right wing of the Republican party.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
10. I agree, however
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:20 AM
Sep 2015

Neither Booze nor Crying can or will absolve his soul and what he does, whether he numbs it with booze or not-is his choice. Any person with conviction and we've seen many, don't turn to the bottle to clean their conscience-they stand up and Fight for the people.
I don't find him "more human" for making cowardly Choices.
Just my opinion.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Yes, he can come be my neighbor. I'm guessing he'd throw some mean BBQs.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 01:03 PM
Sep 2015

Now, Tom "The Hammer" DeLay I'd literally be afraid to have in the neighborhood. There's a sociopath I'd step carefully around.

Baitball Blogger

(46,723 posts)
8. I hope those DUers who were skeptical about the Pope now understand
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:00 AM
Sep 2015

why we supported Pope Francis when his personal convictions began to surface. He has the ability to address the goodness in people who have otherwise been hateful.

So mad at myself for not picking up a Pope Francis rosary or pendant when we were in Rome earlier this year. He is going to make a huge difference in our lives.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
14. Boehner is crying because . . .
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 12:33 PM
Sep 2015

. . . he's Catholic and he now realizes the he has spent his entire career fucking over the people that Jesus served and the people that Jesus told us to serve -- homeless, poor, sick, children, elderly. Boehner is feeling the fires of Hell licking at his toes and he knows if he doesn't change his ways, his soul is in danger. Sort of like Ebeneezer Scrooge as he meets the four ghosts. However, Boehner knows if he tries to do the right thing, his own party will castrate him, so, he'll just go on being an evil rightwing bastard.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
15. I think you are spot on as to Bohner this morning.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 12:34 PM
Sep 2015

I think Bohner probably feels that Francis was speaking to him and speaking about all of the injustice and nastiness that he (Bohner) has been responsible for in Congress.

I know Bohner cries all the time, but I sensed something different this morning. He was having a harder time maintaining his composure. This was inner conflict IMHO.

Whatever the real reason for the boo hooing, Bohner will shortly be over it and back to his old, nasty self.

As to your comment " However, I will say this--if the Pope can help warmongering politicians who demonize the poor, the vulnerable, the hungry and those who want to provide healthcare and help to those who need it--then the Pope is doing a good thing" = = = I wholeheartedly agree and second that!

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
32. Wow! Just wow!
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:04 AM
Sep 2015

Well, we now know that Bohner is resigning.

Seriously. He does consider himself a "good Catholic." Yesterday, it was as if God himself gave Bohner a verbal smack down.

We both saw the same inner turmoil. This was not just emotion. This was a very distressed man. As you said, he had a "hard time maintaining his composure." There was a volcano of emotion that he was capping. You could see it. He was struggling with very intense emotions.

The Pope met with Bohner before the speech. Whatever was said, combined with the Pope's address to Congress--causes great conflict within Bohner.

It's obvious that he resigned because he does have a conscience. He may never do the right thing--and reveal to America what actually does go on behind the scenes. However, I think he could no longer be a part of it. And he resigned.

I grew up in a Catholic family. I know the great capacity for denial when wrongdoing is happening. Catholics seem to be the masters of denial. However, I also know the face of deep regret and shame.

Bohner may never make it right with the world (and he should) but I believe that he is trying to make it right with God.

I am simply blown away by all of this.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
33. I was blown away, as well. I just saw the headlines a few minutes ago!
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:55 AM
Sep 2015

Without a doubt, there was definite conviction in Bohner yesterday!

I truly DO hope that he gets right with God and he should make it right with the World, but as you say, he may not.

Now, I guess my concern is going to be how his replacement will act. I've not read anything yet, so that replacement may have already been picked. Forgive me if I'm behind this morning, but I had to stop for a minute and just take this one in!!!

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
16. Boehner's Hierarchy:
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 12:36 PM
Sep 2015

1. Self (money, booze, golf)
2. Republican party
3. Self (job)
4. Politics
5....
...
98. Country
99. Religion

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
17. You are more religious and spiritual than you think. There are people in the world who have never
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 12:38 PM
Sep 2015

heard of Jesus, Muhammed, Moses etc, but are far more spiritual than the RW nutjuobs. This Pope actually speaks about things Jesus said and the nutjobs can't take it.

jalan48

(13,869 posts)
18. Bohner is a drunk.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 12:40 PM
Sep 2015

Some drunks go on what are known as "crying jags". Bohner is this kind of drunk, anything can set him off-I don't really believe his crying is more than skin deep. My guess is that he will be institutionalized within the next ten years for some type of dementia.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. Bohner is the one who invited Francis, because they agree on most things. Just as you gloss over
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 12:40 PM
Sep 2015

Francis' florid swipes at reproductive choice and marriage equality in order to claim him as your own, Bohner incorporates all that talk of poverty and the earth into basic 'church talk' and he weeps with that because he believes he is on the side of good, he believes that he and Francis agree and to a large extent he is correct.
It's just so odd all of this projection. Bohner invited Francis. They share many major policy views.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
20. Boehner is crying from self inflicted wounds:
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 12:46 PM
Sep 2015

He invited the pope, the pope came,

but the message he brought was not

the one the repugs hoped for.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
28. What the hell is he crying for?
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 01:09 PM
Sep 2015

He represent to most ruthless, vile political party in the country. The GOP wants to destroy healthcare, education, and any/all social services for it's people. They represent just the opposite of what the pope would like to see. You would think he would be happy for himself. So, why this show of tears? Give me a friggin break.

I trust Boner about as far as I can throw the White House.

blm

(113,063 posts)
29. Just saw this post, Coffee - I posted a similar observation.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 01:16 PM
Sep 2015

I have long believed that Boehner cries when he feels exposed as a fraud.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
30. This John Boehnor has no scruples-------------------none
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 01:21 PM
Sep 2015
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d3a_1284581246



This is what John Boehnor is nothing more and nothing less and these republicans that are speaking should have censored this man and then had him Impeached --------------it's called principles and scruples, and then have him doing the crocodile tears give me------------------- a damn break--------------go and get a drink you lush
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