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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 01:57 PM Sep 2015

There is a great change of consciousness on the planet right now

and a greater awareness on why the change is necessary for our evolutionary development for us to continue our existence on this planet to survive as a species.
Many are still asleep and others want you to be asleep
and give you their medication which they want you to consume be it food, drugs and tv

but more are awaking to how they poisoned by the reality that has been floated
before them as the truth.

You won't see this change on TV except on shows that hint at it.


The old ways aren't working and the lies have now been exposed and discussed and the world is watching.

the Catholic church knows this,
the hedge fund managers know this,
the banks know this
Car manufacturers know this.. the EPA didn't

and others are watching their illusion they wanted you to see and believe disappearing like a morning fog of your mind burned out by the truth of sunlight

How many of you are watching out for the poisons you are eating?. notice the change?

How many of you look and study the stars at night
and can name stuff?

How many now know your TV programming is shit until you are able to control it with the internet?

How many know now that there is something terribly wrong with the reality they live in? But humanity helps them through it

There is a study from the University of Aahus in Denmark that shows the portion of the brain
that is a major part of consciousness is having more growth than other parts of the brain which are shrinking.

Be careful but be brave my friends......

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There is a great change of consciousness on the planet right now (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 OP
"Better awake, even if in last hour, than in eternal slumber" darkangel218 Sep 2015 #1
In the Gnostic bible thought......... Jesus said we are all gods Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #2
+1 darkangel218 Sep 2015 #3
I guess Nirvana is possible. Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #4
Absolutely. darkangel218 Sep 2015 #5
I agree totally. In 2017, there will be a start of something awesome and it will roguevalley Sep 2015 #46
He said that in the Standard New Testament, too. Octafish Sep 2015 #7
John 10:38? Another John put it this way: markbark Sep 2015 #43
Once there was a monk who specialized in the Buddhist precepts, and he kept to them all his life. Octafish Sep 2015 #51
Great post! Octafish Sep 2015 #6
My best friend on DU.... you know me. Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #9
Friend and Brother in Spirit Octafish Sep 2015 #14
tchingcarpenter and octafish, I love you both today. I hug you tight. roguevalley Sep 2015 #48
Thanks, roguevalley! Octafish Sep 2015 #50
Thankyou. "No Half Measures" Ghost Dog Sep 2015 #29
My thoughts are with you tonight, on the passing of your Dad! LongTomH Sep 2015 #61
I get it. artislife Sep 2015 #67
Unfortunately, as I can both program my remote and name and locate eighty-eight constellations LanternWaste Sep 2015 #8
Do you see the change of those that you didn't think they would? Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #13
That's what we said back in the 60s Binkie The Clown Sep 2015 #10
You have to remember, these "ages" are 2,000 years long! robbob Sep 2015 #36
So things will improve by AD 3100? Well, that's something to look forward to anyway. Binkie The Clown Sep 2015 #59
I cant say that I agree there is an awakening. WDIM Sep 2015 #11
Wait, I thought the "Age of Aquarius" already happened. MineralMan Sep 2015 #12
You sir ........ where always a consciousness stops waiting to hpeen Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #19
Ah, I see. You don't know me. MineralMan Sep 2015 #23
I would suggest in the time you have left on this plane Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #26
Your op states to stay away from mind altering drugs? AuntPatsy Sep 2015 #33
Riders of the storm Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #37
The music lives forever AuntPatsy Sep 2015 #39
thinker? SoLeftIAmRight Sep 2015 #68
We are at the beginning of Age of Aquarius moonbeam23 Sep 2015 #22
There is only observation. MineralMan Sep 2015 #24
You have so much time left Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #40
I have only time to lose, and too little of it MineralMan Sep 2015 #60
Well, actually... Lots of things changed. sibelian Sep 2015 #57
We can either evolve along with the planet or get steam rolled by it. Rex Sep 2015 #15
Exactly. tecelote Sep 2015 #17
It should be of great concern how the planet feels about us and right now it cannot be a good Rex Sep 2015 #21
Ah. Drop a little acid and have a stream of conscious moment. erronis Sep 2015 #16
I hope so Android3.14 Sep 2015 #18
As Douglas Adams said, "the universe is big, really, really big." longship Sep 2015 #38
I contend that the old ways are the only ways that ARE working. Shandris Sep 2015 #20
The disciples asked Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2015 #25
This american song writer poet right now blows me away Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #32
Lovely! nt Mojorabbit Sep 2015 #62
Can you help me find the Aarhus study? Ilsa Sep 2015 #27
Its an academic thing in Danish Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #28
I'd like to see it, too. DFW Sep 2015 #41
I taught some software classes in Aarhus a while back, and I found that I could only say Aarhus djean111 Sep 2015 #52
That it is DFW Sep 2015 #53
I was working at the phone company - fantastic building! - and the atmosphere was so different. djean111 Sep 2015 #54
I don't get up there much any more either, though it's only an hour's flight DFW Sep 2015 #55
Now I am jealous. i used to support some software stuff at PTT in Den Haag. djean111 Sep 2015 #56
A few caveats DFW Sep 2015 #58
I trust you! This is too important, Ilsa Sep 2015 #42
What is amazing is that atoms have assembled Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #47
I'm assuming it's this, though it's not quite what the OP describes: arcane1 Sep 2015 #31
That's interesting enough by itself, Ilsa Sep 2015 #45
The EPA did but in the name of Capitalism it denied it.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #30
"Something's happenin' here hifiguy Sep 2015 #34
"Open your eyes and look within. Are you satisfied with the life you're living?" Bob Marley Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #35
The great challenge is to know things as they really are. WheelWalker Sep 2015 #44
For your Dad and your thought Waiting For Everyman Sep 2015 #49
Are you due beer and travel money? n/t X_Digger Sep 2015 #63
The revolution will not be televised. cui bono Sep 2015 #64
New Age Twaddle...nt SidDithers Sep 2015 #65
"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. Zorra Sep 2015 #66
+1 million darkangel218 Sep 2015 #71
the advantage is, waking up is irreversible BelgianMadCow Sep 2015 #69
Higher consciousness is available to us all. Maxinedaily Sep 2015 #70

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
2. In the Gnostic bible thought......... Jesus said we are all gods
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 02:07 PM
Sep 2015

And we all had the power to heal each other as did Buddha.

The Gnostics were censored for the power of Rome.

Well they did leave this in but it was bastardize from the original writing of the Gnostics..

'Besides this you know the time, that the hour has come for you to wake from sleep. For salvation is nearer to us now than when we first believed.''

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
4. I guess Nirvana is possible.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 02:31 PM
Sep 2015

"Come as you are, as you were, as I want you to be.
As a friend, as a friend, as an old enemy.

Take your time. Hurry up.
Choice is yours. Don't be late. ........... no I don't have a gun"

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
5. Absolutely.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 02:34 PM
Sep 2015

And "nirvana" can be achieved even here, on this sold out, wretched earth. "Nirvana" comes from within. It is our black flame, our kuandalini. Our third eye. When one realizes the true reality of things, one is at peace.

Cheers!!

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
46. I agree totally. In 2017, there will be a start of something awesome and it will
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 05:47 PM
Sep 2015

coincide with Bernie taking the oath. The trend left begins when people are tired off seeing their kids hungry.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
7. He said that in the Standard New Testament, too.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 02:52 PM
Sep 2015

33 - The Jews answered him, “We are not stoning you for a good work but for blasphemy. You, a man, are making yourself God.”

34 - * Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods”’?

35 - If it calls them gods to whom the word of God came, and scripture cannot be set aside,

36 - can you say that the one whom the Father has consecrated* and sent into the world blasphemes because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’?

37 - If I do not perform my Father’s works, do not believe me;

38 - but if I perform them, even if you do not believe me, believe the works, so that you may realize (and understand) that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.”

- John, Chapter 10

SOURCE: http://www.usccb.org/bible/john/10

PS: I heard a great presentation on the Nag Hammadi discoveries and the Gnostics at Griffith Observatory ca. 1987. It was awesome!

PPS: Gnossos = 'To Know'...knowledge of God (creator, universe, self, life, infinite, etc). through study. Radical.

markbark

(1,560 posts)
43. John 10:38? Another John put it this way:
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:45 PM
Sep 2015

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
51. Once there was a monk who specialized in the Buddhist precepts, and he kept to them all his life.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 06:57 PM
Sep 2015

Once when he was walking at night, he stepped on something. It made a squishing sound, and he imagined he had stepped on an egg-bearing frog.

This caused him no end of alarm and regret, in view of the Buddhist precept against taking life, and when he finally went to sleep that night he dreamed that hundreds of frogs came demanding his life.

The monk was terribly upset, but when morning came he looked and found that what he stepped on was an overripe eggplant. At that moment his feeling of uncertainty suddenly stopped, and for the first time he realized the meaning of the saying that “there is no objective world.” Then he finally knew how to practice Zen.

SOURCE (seems one of them click baity things): http://www.highexistence.com/7-zen-stories-that-give-you-a-glimpse-of-enlightenment/

We are the eggplant.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
9. My best friend on DU.... you know me.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:03 PM
Sep 2015

See the stone set in your eyes
See the thorn twist in your side
I'll wait for you

Sleight of hand and twist of fate
On a bed of nails she makes me wait
And I wait without you

With or without you
With or without you

Through the storm, we reach the shore
You gave it all but I want more
And I'm waiting for you

With or without you
With or without you


I NEVER WAIT FOR YOU MY FRIEND.

I got a bad email today from my brother and my father is dying and I'm thousands of miles away..
he's 99 but wanted 100

a true american WWII decorated hero and helped writethe original nuclear test band treaty
which prohibited atmospheric testing on the planet.

So, I'm being a little more than what is necessary right now for some

The name of my father's book is called

'No half measures'

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
14. Friend and Brother in Spirit
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:24 PM
Sep 2015

Please know you have both as long as I have breath.

I am truly sorry on the sad news. My family, also, is experiencing the loss of our dad.

Knowing you from what you write and how you treat other people, I know he is an extraordinary human being.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
48. tchingcarpenter and octafish, I love you both today. I hug you tight.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 05:49 PM
Sep 2015

You will know they are around you because they will let you know. Love doesn't end ever and parents will never leave their children ever. Take care both of you. -RV

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
50. Thanks, roguevalley!
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 06:51 PM
Sep 2015

You made me cry, but thank you. From the many, many blessings and events and heartaches of this life, I am totally convinced of what you wrote.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
61. My thoughts are with you tonight, on the passing of your Dad!
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 08:36 PM
Sep 2015

My family has said goodbye to Dad and the last of the WWII vets in the family.

Sad to think that so much history is passing with them.

Another musical offering:

"I can tell my brother by the flowers in his eyes, on the road to Shambala!"

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
67. I get it.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 03:48 AM
Sep 2015

I, too have a someone who is ready to take the walk to the other side. A walk we all take, but sad for us not going.


I too believe that the veils are lifting. So much is being exposed and we are here at the great reveal.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
8. Unfortunately, as I can both program my remote and name and locate eighty-eight constellations
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 02:56 PM
Sep 2015

" be it food, drugs and tv..."

As well as books, music, internet message boards and other distractions we all too often rationalize as being superior in every way to that which we personally find distasteful or wasteful.



Unfortunately, as I can both program my remote and name and locate eighty-eight constellations, I'll resign myself to a lower level on the evolutionary scale. Denied by a lack of pretense, I'll simply wallow in the self-realization that I am no better, and little worse than anyone else, as opposed to those who stand tall enough to look down on anyone not sharing the same ideology.

A little family, a little love, a little laughter and a little wine will be my mournful recourse in this sad life, as the much-more evolved among us tell us (tirelessly, righteously and all the moral absolutism mere humanity can muster) how incredibly vapid I truly am for not marching to the tune they want to entertain us with-- be that corporations, or merely posters on the internet.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
13. Do you see the change of those that you didn't think they would?
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:20 PM
Sep 2015

I do..............


I'm friends of the monster under my bed





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robbob

(3,531 posts)
36. You have to remember, these "ages" are 2,000 years long!
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:29 PM
Sep 2015

Something about an alignment of the planets within an astrological house that occurs every 2,000 years? So when they sang "this is the dawning..." They weren't kidding!

We have to have some patience! It isn't going to change overnight! But I believe we are blesses/cursed to be living in a time of great change, for good or bad.

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
11. I cant say that I agree there is an awakening.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:17 PM
Sep 2015

Seems to me human beings are behaving the same way as they always have.

The greedy minority taking advantage of the giving majority.

The war mongers starting wars. for others to fight.

The criminals being criminals.

The owners exploiting the workers.

The honest and the righteous just trying to get by and survive.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
12. Wait, I thought the "Age of Aquarius" already happened.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:19 PM
Sep 2015

Nothing seems to have changed, though. Maybe it will take this time, eh? It never seems to, though.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
19. You sir ........ where always a consciousness stops waiting to hpeen
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:45 PM
Sep 2015

I'm sure you children said that......... Oh wait
you never did that in your life

But always told how others to live
without that experience to explain
what the age of your lack of or expertise is for your understanding

of what is going on with
On the rotation of the planet means and who that understood that thousands of years ago

You never provide anything except your opinion.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
23. Ah, I see. You don't know me.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:51 PM
Sep 2015

Truly you do not.

I am, however, an evidence-based thinker. That may be confusing you. As for the rotation of the planet, I understand that pretty well, actually. I understand celestial mechanics pretty well, too. All obey the laws of physics, and do so demonstrably.

I confess to not having an excess of knowledge of galactic or universal mechanics. The math is beyond my capabilities. I read in that area, though, and work to keep up with current theoretical thinking.

Beyond that, I have no real opinion at all. The evidence doesn't exist and can't be observed. Some people seem to think there are non-physical forces at work. I don't. I leave those people to their thinking, but don't bother with it, really.

Again, you don't know me. Please don't pretend that you do. Thanks.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
26. I would suggest in the time you have left on this plane
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:03 PM
Sep 2015

of existence

You take a some time to do so some

some mind alternating drugs.. like.. chose your consciousness changing drug............... be honest
.......... you missed the 60s and 70s

Now something that would change your
consciousness........ which if you ever did that in your life........... you wouldn't continue your limited
experience on the time you have left on this planet.

Time is limited and so are we

My post must said something to you
to get the response from you.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
37. Riders of the storm
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:30 PM
Sep 2015

went to High school with that family
and met his Dad dating his sister

Went to his wake in Coronado that was invited and promoted at that time by his brother.



 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
68. thinker?
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 03:52 AM
Sep 2015

"All obey the laws of physics, and do so demonstrably."

I must say that I find this a silly thing. These laws you speak of are really little more than pretty good approximations of what we perceive.

You will hardly find one among the profounder sort of scientific minds without a religious feeling of his own.

His religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.

Those whose acquaintance with scientific research is derived chiefly from its practical results easily develop a completely false notion of the mentality of the men who, surrounded by a skeptical world, have shown the way to kindred sprits scattered wide through the world and centuries. Only one who has devoted his life to similar ends can have a vivid realization of what has inspired these men and given them the strength to remain true to their purpose in spite of countless failures. It is cosmic religious feeling that gives a man such strength. A contemporary has said, not unjustly, that in this materialistic age of ours the serious scientific workers are the only profoundly religious people.

How can the cosmic religious feeling be communicated from one person to another, if it can give rise to no definite notion of a God and no theology? In my view, it is the most important function of art and science to awaken this feeling and keep it alive in those who are receptive to it.

moonbeam23

(312 posts)
22. We are at the beginning of Age of Aquarius
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:49 PM
Sep 2015

Started in 1775...american revolution, discovery of uranus, the new planet associated with aquarius...
It's a 2000+ year cycle, so there is lots of time left for things to get better...The negative side of aquarius is an obsession with money and control...

There are NO coincidences...

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
24. There is only observation.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:53 PM
Sep 2015

I observe what can be seen and demonstrated to be real. You might have other opinions, but the physical universe is complicated enough for me. I'll let you think about other things.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
60. I have only time to lose, and too little of it
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 08:30 PM
Sep 2015

to waste. In a previous post, you suggested that I take some psychoactive drugs, and implied that I missed the 60s and 70s. You know nothing of my life. That's clear.

That's OK, really. But you do presume too much about me and my path. I am sorry to hear about your father. Mine will be 91 next month, and is living on borrowed time. He is also a decorated WWII vet. We have that in common, along with more other things than you think.

My oath has led me to become who I am. I need no advice. Be at peace.

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
57. Well, actually... Lots of things changed.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 07:49 PM
Sep 2015

In fact, since the coining of that phrase, so much has changed and so fast that we are caught up in the wake of the wave and cling to the bits of the world that aren't changing, convincing ourselves that those are the important bits. Who wants change? Too much effort.

Again, MM, your train of thought trundles along the tracks until it reaches the station it likes and then...stops.
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
15. We can either evolve along with the planet or get steam rolled by it.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:27 PM
Sep 2015

I wish people would realize that the planet Earth will keep on chugging along...with or without us. I believe most of us prefer with.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
17. Exactly.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:30 PM
Sep 2015

This is from an agriculture tweet:

Earth is taking care of itself. We spray poisons on food so it will bring in more profitable harvests. Problem - Resolution. Earth rebounds.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
21. It should be of great concern how the planet feels about us and right now it cannot be a good
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:47 PM
Sep 2015

feeling. We will get shrugged off like fleas on a dog and the majority of people will never see it coming. It is a simple truth some would like to do everything in their power from realizing.

erronis

(15,286 posts)
16. Ah. Drop a little acid and have a stream of conscious moment.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:28 PM
Sep 2015

There's a lot of stuff going on. Every 10-20 years another lot of stuff. Sometimes right, sometimes wrong.

We all try to find meaning and explanations in this stuff. That's normal, most life forms do this.

Under all the seemingly random events there are real linkages between the forces that cause these events.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
18. I hope so
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:35 PM
Sep 2015

The Fermi Paradox and that Big Silence in the sky concern me, because I suspect we are working our way through the Great Filter, but it is looking precarious.

The nice thing about the Many Worlds model of the universe is that there are branches in which humans will survive and thrive along with the branches where we die out.

<Android raises a glass> Here's to the branch that lives. May we build our nest on it. <drinks>

longship

(40,416 posts)
38. As Douglas Adams said, "the universe is big, really, really big."
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:36 PM
Sep 2015

Some folks here need a trip to the Total Perspective Vortex. That will set them right (unless one is Zaphod Beeblebrox in which case the universe revolves around you -- Hey! I am a really hoopy guy!)

Is this fairy cake? I am hungry.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
20. I contend that the old ways are the only ways that ARE working.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:46 PM
Sep 2015

Just not 'old' in a recent, American definition. But I wholeheartedly agree with the intent and spirit of your post, and it's something I've been watching more and more people slowly start to wake up to. It's a beautiful thing, even if it is somewhat unfortunate it has taken so long on so many things, and knowing that it will still be years until it truly comes to fruition. But I suppose that is the curse of humans, and also the strength: by knowing we are leaving things behind, it SHOULD compel us to do better, and often does. Unfortunately, the ones it doesn't work on are typically very powerful.

For now.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
25. The disciples asked
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:02 PM
Sep 2015

The disciples asked

Gautama, the Buddha, "Oh, Enlightened One, what shall we do when you are gone? Who will we follow?"

The Buddha said, "Be as lamps unto yourselves."





Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
32. This american song writer poet right now blows me away
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:18 PM
Sep 2015

Hey........... I'm drinking and getting a little stupid
LOL



We Can't Stop






Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
27. Can you help me find the Aarhus study?
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:05 PM
Sep 2015

I've been googling variations of terms, but I can't tell which study it is.

DFW

(54,399 posts)
41. I'd like to see it, too.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:38 PM
Sep 2015

Danish is a little different from Swedish, but close enough that I can read most of it (as long as I don't have to hear it spoken aloud! Aarhus is pronounced "AWW-hoose," with "hoose" pronounced as in moose).

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
52. I taught some software classes in Aarhus a while back, and I found that I could only say Aarhus
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 07:07 PM
Sep 2015

a couple of times, back here, before someone would tell me to stop saying Aarhus. Was this study done there? Nice town.

DFW

(54,399 posts)
53. That it is
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 07:14 PM
Sep 2015

I was only there once, but fond memories. And their Danish was easier for me to understand than the mashed-potatoes-mouth version they speak on Sjaelland.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
54. I was working at the phone company - fantastic building! - and the atmosphere was so different.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 07:23 PM
Sep 2015

Nicer, but a bit more abrupt than the folks in Holland I had been working with before. Best cafeteria EVER! Beer in the vending machines, bicycles if you needed to get to a far away part of the building. North Sea right by my hotel window - so many sailboats after work. Not much of a culture shock. Would like to go back as a tourist sometime.

DFW

(54,399 posts)
55. I don't get up there much any more either, though it's only an hour's flight
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 07:29 PM
Sep 2015

I'm in Holland several times a month (was just over there yesterday) and speak the language much better, so I'm much more comfortable there anyway.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
56. Now I am jealous. i used to support some software stuff at PTT in Den Haag.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 07:43 PM
Sep 2015

Would be at the Sofitel (now Babylon, I think) by the CS for 5-8 weeks at a time. Had so much fun, big biers (seems like almost every night), hanging out downtown or at the beach. I could actually see myself living there.

DFW

(54,399 posts)
58. A few caveats
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 07:57 PM
Sep 2015

The weather sucks, the living space is small and expensive, and the bureaucracy is cumbersome. I just moved someone up there from elsewhere in Europe, and she is drowning in petty bureaucracy. To get to work, she needs to take 2 buses. To switch, she needs a different set of tickets because the bus company is split into two and they won't honor each other's tickets (no such animal here in Germany). Plus she can't get medical insurance until she gets a paper from the tax authorities, which they are dragging their heels with, whining about documents from third countries. So, she is praying nothing happens until this messy paperwork is done. Lots of Catch 22. That's the problem with a lot of Europe, certainly here in Germany as well. A short visit of a few months will not prepare you for the wall of paper and indifference you meet when you try to establish a daily existence here. I keep my Blue Cross in Texas because to get medical insurance here in Germany, even though I pay over 50% in taxes here, they want to charge me €2500 a MONTH. Even my wife, who retired at 60 when she needed her thyroid removed (tumor on it), and had already been out the better part of a year for her cancer treatment 10 years before, was suddenly kicked off her medical insurance by the state, so I now cough up €400 a month for it until she's 65, and can get government health insurance. If she had been on her own, she would have been up shit creek.

Plus there's the language. Yes, they all speak some English there, but to be part of society in Holland, you must speak Dutch. I learned it easily, but most people have problems with it. It does take some getting used to!

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
42. I trust you! This is too important,
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:43 PM
Sep 2015

too profound for me to not pay attention. I've always been interested in neuroscience.

I have no idea how I'm going to manage Danish, though.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
31. I'm assuming it's this, though it's not quite what the OP describes:
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:16 PM
Sep 2015

A reduction in the size of the hippocampus in people with depression:

http://sciencenordic.com/depression-can-damage-brain

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
45. That's interesting enough by itself,
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:49 PM
Sep 2015

so thank you. It's enough to explain how some people can become disabled or have relationship issues beyond "the obvious."

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
30. The EPA did but in the name of Capitalism it denied it....
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:15 PM
Sep 2015

Because Capitalism is official US policy.

As is endless economic growth.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
34. "Something's happenin' here
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:24 PM
Sep 2015

What it is ain't exactly clear...."

Stephen Stills

It is, however, beginning to clarify. And it is not what the plutocracy wants to hear at all.

ETA:

Not the torturer will scare me
Nor the body's final fall
Nor the barrels of death's rifles
Nor the shadows on the wall
Nor the night when to the ground
The last dim star of pain, is hurled
But the blind indifference
Of a merciless, unfeeling world

***

And each small candle
Lights a corner of the dark
Each small candle
Lights a corner of the dark
Each small candle lights a corner of the dark
When the wheel of pain stops turning
And the branding iron stops burning
When the children can be children
When the desperados weaken
When the tide rolls into greet them
And the natural law of science
Greets the humble and the mighty
And the billion candles burning
Lights the dark side of every human mind

- Roger Waters

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
35. "Open your eyes and look within. Are you satisfied with the life you're living?" Bob Marley
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:24 PM
Sep 2015

Eat and drink as cleanly as possible. Eliminate your mind of negative thinking. Rid your body of stored trauma. Live life with positive intention. Love yourself then you will love others. Expand your consciousness with meditation, pure tones and color, sacred geometry, chakra and energy awareness. Be committed to your whole-being healing.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
66. "We are not human beings having a spiritual experience.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:47 AM
Sep 2015

We are spiritual beings having a human experience." ~ Pierre Teilhard de Chardin


BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
69. the advantage is, waking up is irreversible
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:47 AM
Sep 2015

you might try to hide, but there's no running away from understanding the bigger picture.

I logged in (after ages) because I concur. Change is upon us, I see it in many examples around here. Occupy lingo and behaviour are simply (part of the) mainstream and the burnout/depression crisis is front and center. A leading thinker just published about authority, stating the patriarchy has failed and should be replaced with the authority of an appropriate collective.

I like to think we are nearing some form of collective consciousness. Lord knows our collective subconscious has been manipulated for long enough.

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