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Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:25 PM Sep 2015

Man jailed for traffic ticket dies in custody after 16 days of hell and cops watched it happen


News report video:
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/man-jailed-for-ticket-dies-in-custody/35452790


Another news article:
Video Surfaces Showing Inmate Slowly Dying In Macomb County Jail While Under Surveillance

MACOMB COUNTY (CBS Detroit) He couldn’t pay the $772 fine for a careless driving ticket that had turned into an obstruction of justice charge, so he was sent to jail for 30 days.

In Macomb County Jail, David Stojcevski, 32, lost 50 pounds, wilting away, twitching, under the glare of prison lights in the two-person cell he shared off and on with other inmates from June 11-June 27, 2014.

Then with the cameras rolling in the cell where he was allegedly on suicide watch, he died — alone, visibly breathing his last before medical personnel rushed in from outside the glass and try in vain to resuscitate him.

“This is shameful, substantial and unconscionable neglect,” said Robert Ihrie, senior partner at the firm handling a lawsuit against Macomb County on behalf of David Stojcevski’s family.
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http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2015/09/24/video-surfaces-showing-inmate-slowly-dying-in-macomb-county-jail-while-under-surveillance/
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Man jailed for traffic ticket dies in custody after 16 days of hell and cops watched it happen (Original Post) Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 OP
Yo! Police and jailors! Stop fucking killing people! That's not your job! Do your fucking job! Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #1
The problem is the entire system IMO.... ion_theory Sep 2015 #14
Sick and horrifying, there are times I wished I believed in hell...some are just so deserving. AuntPatsy Sep 2015 #2
Yes but I never heard of someone losing 50 pounds in yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #26
Methadone withdrawal -probably vomiting constantly Person 2713 Sep 2015 #27
Another thread asks if I would, "call the cops." Rex Sep 2015 #3
God, that's sad. polly7 Sep 2015 #4
I had to do 10 days (reduced to 5) for being late paying a traffic ticket. 30 days??????? arcane1 Sep 2015 #5
Merica! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #7
my heart breaks marym625 Sep 2015 #6
Premeditated murder by people with the training to know better. n/t jtuck004 Sep 2015 #8
I doubt there is any "training". Hire the cheapest thugs you can find. erronis Sep 2015 #17
Which, coincidentally, are usually the dumbest. Lancero Sep 2015 #25
I almost threw up when I read this Milliesmom Sep 2015 #9
Germany 1930 left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #10
That was the first thought that came to my mind. Brown shirts, hobnob boots, hinaus ... erronis Sep 2015 #19
Not neglect. Murder. DFW Sep 2015 #11
So was he given his meds or not? If he was not then they would be well advised to settle before cstanleytech Sep 2015 #12
Hey 772 bucks aint chicken feed. snort Sep 2015 #13
you clearly forgot the sarcasm icon, yes???? niyad Sep 2015 #15
Would you watch someone in your custody die? Ino Sep 2015 #16
Debtor's prison has been gone as long as Dickens has. lpbk2713 Sep 2015 #18
I guess your headlines belies your message erronis Sep 2015 #21
I probably should have modified that with *de facto* debtor's prison. lpbk2713 Sep 2015 #22
I'm sick of glib shit. Duppers Sep 2015 #29
The police want us to fear them Kelselsius Sep 2015 #20
This is a good point Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #28
More criminal cops. blackspade Sep 2015 #23
When will someone step in and stop this kind of sickness? damnedifIknow Sep 2015 #24

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
1. Yo! Police and jailors! Stop fucking killing people! That's not your job! Do your fucking job!
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:28 PM
Sep 2015

So fed up with it.

ion_theory

(235 posts)
14. The problem is the entire system IMO....
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 06:20 PM
Sep 2015

To many ppl view anyone in jail as dispensable members of society, guilty or not. The rehabilitation aspect of our prison system is a joke, and people just want to focus on punishment. Unfortunately it's in a looooong list of things we need to fix in the country. Maybe the pope's words toward capital punishment will shed more light toward prison reform.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
26. Yes but I never heard of someone losing 50 pounds in
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 09:01 PM
Sep 2015

16 days. That doesn't even seem possible. I mean the story says he did it but I am stunned.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
3. Another thread asks if I would, "call the cops."
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:29 PM
Sep 2015

And I said in the town I live in YES...in a strange town, not really sure and this type of story is why. Cops can save your life or be an absolute nightmare with no oversight and total control.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
4. God, that's sad.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:30 PM
Sep 2015

Anyone who knew what meds he was on would have known how much he'd suffer without them ..... possible seizures and even death are very well documented. They ignored other cellmates eating his food, the seizures, left him naked ... his family wants this shown, I can't imagine how horrible it must have been for him, or them.

His brother went through the same thing, arrested then jailed and ended up in hospital??

Horrible.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
5. I had to do 10 days (reduced to 5) for being late paying a traffic ticket. 30 days???????
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:35 PM
Sep 2015

What a fucked-up place we live in.

 

Milliesmom

(493 posts)
9. I almost threw up when I read this
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 05:41 PM
Sep 2015

When are these horrors happening to people going to stop? How many more will die before the people, all the people rise up in revolt, it's time for an American Spring. How many will die before Bernie is elected?

DFW

(54,384 posts)
11. Not neglect. Murder.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 05:54 PM
Sep 2015

This happened over a period of two weeks with constant observation of his condition. Malice of forethought: Murder. It should be prosecuted as such.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
12. So was he given his meds or not? If he was not then they would be well advised to settle before
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 06:08 PM
Sep 2015

it goes to trial.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
16. Would you watch someone in your custody die?
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 06:34 PM
Sep 2015

Just wondering how far your lack of compassion extends.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
18. Debtor's prison has been gone as long as Dickens has.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 06:39 PM
Sep 2015



If a poor person is incarcerated and they have no friends or family they are in a
world of shit. Particularly if they have health issues that need close monitoring.

erronis

(15,260 posts)
21. I guess your headlines belies your message
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 06:46 PM
Sep 2015

Debtor's prison is alive and well. It is administered by the GEO and CCA companies and the payoffs go to the same sleazy characters that lived in Dicken's time - the politicians and grifters.

Kelselsius

(50 posts)
20. The police want us to fear them
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 06:45 PM
Sep 2015

People don't seem to understand. The police LOVE these horror stories. They want us afraid of them.
When the police pull us over, they get off on the fear they cause us. They want us to fear for our lives even if we are just getting a ticket for jay walking.
Nothing turns on the police more than knowing they can KILL YOU for making an illegal left turn and the worse case scenario is they will get some time off with pay.
Police are bullies and sadists with no accountability and they want the rest of us to know it.
But most of all, they want us afraid so we will obey without hesitation.

The true motto of the police department is, "OBEY OR DIE!"

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
28. This is a good point
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:34 AM
Sep 2015

Cops want us to be scared.

It's a little bit confusing how that can go on when we're supposed to live in a civilized society and a democracy with individual rights under the rule of law.

Things like this seem to happen all the time so it makes me question the whole system that allows it.

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
24. When will someone step in and stop this kind of sickness?
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 08:27 PM
Sep 2015

These people have to be mentally ill to watch this without summoning medical assistance before it was too late. WTF?

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